injinji
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Yes.Do you think it's a coincidence that this happened after they unveiled Zircon missiles
Yes.Do you think it's a coincidence that this happened after they unveiled Zircon missiles
I will not blame the Scots for ScotTissueI could insert a tasteless reminder of the TP shortage here but I'm above all that.
I saw a documentary once, apparently the oligarch father of that Russian pop singer Trump is buddies with might be heavily vested. Who else would have given Trump money at that time for such a poor investment as golf courses?
Slow your roll. Ukraine wants to join NATO, but they are not even close to being ready. They might never be. NATO moving east does box in the bear. He's trying to rattle the cage a little.This war is a direct result of the US push for the Ukraine to join NATO and their refusal to appease any of Russias concerns. NATO spreading East is a threat to them. How stupid are you yanks? You are starting another World War and blaming everybody but yourselves.
Chomsky: US Approach to Ukraine Has “Left the Domain of Rational Discourse” (truthout.org)
Yes, yes, the US is militarily inept and clueless. We didn't do nearly as good a job as the Soviets did in occupying Afghanistan. Our fighter aircraft are powered by rubber bands. We use air pumps to pressurize the water in a missile. See the picture below of one of the missiles deployed in NATO bases. We have at least ten of them at ready at all times.Add to that that in all simulations the US navy ran against zircon missiles they were sunk
There is no yet. Ukraine is not NATO, so we are not going to fight for them. It's pretty simple really.i think America should get involved by coming up with a treaty instead of committing full military action yet...
How bad is it that the first word that spurted into my mind wasYes, yes, the US is militarily inept and clueless. We didn't do nearly as good a job as the Soviets did in occupying Afghanistan. Our fighter aircraft are powered by rubber bands. We use air pumps to pressurize the water in a missile'. See the picture below of one of the missiles deployed in NATO bases. We have at least ten of them at ready at all times.
Russia has nothing to fear about the US or NATO.
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When the wall came down and the USSR crumbled, we did say we wouldn't move NATO east. But the states wanted in, so we let them. It's always a good idea to remember foreign policy is a game of poker where everyone is cheating.And where in the treaty does it say this?
Or are you just believing (or just pushing it) the Russian propaganda?
Just as they rely on us to buy their stuff. They’re not going to risk being the factory of the west, the main source of their power, over Russia.Until we rebuild a whole new supply chain in the west, from refineries to finished products we are reliant on china for all the stuff we buy.
Responding to a newsmax article with quotes from Lindsey Graham… ah well…The problem, he said, is that how Ukraine ends, determines what China does with Taiwan.
"Taiwan is the largest manufacturer of semiconductor chips in the entire world, so our whole high end economy depends on chips," he said. "Do you really want China to own the entire chip market?"
right?Slow your roll. Ukraine wants to join NATO, but they are not even close to being ready. They might never be. NATO moving east does box in the bear. He's trying to rattle the cage a little.
This is not a world war. And Putin started it.
And this time we would make sure we didn't miss Baja California in the resulting land sale.a heartbeat would be exactly how long that war would last too.
pretty dark mind you have there boy.How bad is it that the first word that spurted into my mind was
Sybian?
If he comes across a Russian soldier with a camera, watch out.Ukraine's president praises the "courage" of Oscar-winning actor Sean Penn because he is currently on the ground in Ukraine filming a documentary about the Russian invasion in order to "tell the truth" about Putin's bloodthirsty acts.
Yes we are. But luckily most of the folks who suffer from pigmentation based bias are old fucks and they will soon die off. As they do, America will come closer to keeping the promises we made hundreds of years ago.. . . . . . . . . . . Our culture and country is already in shambles
it might have the opposite effect with adults, but kids are impressionable, and kids born after this won't have lived through it, and we've all seen how no matter where you are, there are always some people who will believe stupidity...almost half the voting population of America are fucking magat republicans...so there will indeed be an indoctrination program, if putin is allowed to keep Ukraine. they WILL have controls of the news, television, schools...in 2 generations, the average Ukrainian will believe most of what they're told...Indoctrinate? That's a bit old fashioned, I think being under Vlad's heel will have the opposite effect. We aren't gonna go to war, just starve the average Russian and make life miserable for the rich while crushing their economy for a decade. By the time they get to sell any oil, it will be like coal. Remember Russia has no domestic car industry and would be buying EVs in a decade too, they won't even be using their own oil except to generate power.
if graham loses, he can go into comedy, cause that is fucking hilariousSen. Lindsey Graham to Newsmax: Trump Warned Putin, Xi — and They Feared Him
When Donald Trump was president, invasions like Ukraine didn't happen because "war criminals" like Russian President Vladimir Putin feared Trump, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., tells Newsmax.
Appearing Thursday on "Eric Bolling: The Balance," Graham said that he had breakfast earlier in the day with Trump, who shared with the senator how he dealt with tyrants, including Putin.
Putin is trying to intimidate people with his threats against anyone who helps Ukraine, Graham said, because "that's what bullies do." But, with an economy the size of Italy that depends on oil and gas, "We could crush it," Graham said.
"Now why didn't this happen on Trump's watch?" he asked. "I had breakfast with President Trump this morning, and he said he told Putin he wanted a good relationship. 'But if you go into Ukraine, I can't have a good relationship with you. And you don't want to do that.'"
Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping the same thing about Taiwan, Graham said. "And they were afraid of him."
Graham said Biden should hold Putin "accountable" for the money he has "stolen from the Russian people."
"They say he may be worth up to $100 billion. Well, how did he get that money? He stole it from Russia," Graham said. "All of his buddies that have apartments and yachts, I would start taking them and looking and put them in jail. I would restrict travel to Russia, I would treat Russia as an extreme case of COVID and isolate it."
Putin is a war criminal, Graham said, because he has gone into the sovereign nation of Ukraine "and started killing people by force of arms."
"He's criminally killing civilians," Graham said, noting that the invasion itself is a violation of the 1994 Agreement signed by Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the United States that Ukraine would give up its nuclear weapons to Russia, and Russia, in turn, would never invade Ukraine.
Russia and China likely had a "secret handshake'' that "you don't give me a hard time on Ukraine and I won't give you a hard time about Taiwan," Graham said. "And again, President Trump made it clear to those leaders that if you go down the road of Taiwan and China and Russia and Ukraine, I can't help you and I'll be your worst nightmare."
The problem, he said, is that how Ukraine ends, determines what China does with Taiwan.
"Taiwan is the largest manufacturer of semiconductor chips in the entire world, so our whole high end economy depends on chips," he said. "Do you really want China to own the entire chip market?"
Additionally, he said, "Israel is in the crosshairs of a radical regime in Iran. If they get a nuclear weapon, Israel will have to respond. They can't let that ever happen. I think Israel would use a nuclear weapon to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
"At that point, we could have the whole world in flames here if we don't watch it, so how we deal with Putin really matters."
Sen. Lindsey Graham to Newsmax: Trump Warned Putin, Xi — and They Feared Him
When Donald Trump was president, invasions like Ukraine didn't happen because "war criminals" like Russian President Vladimir Putin feared Trump, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., tells Newsmax.www.newsmax.com
Ok. Thanks for advising that we do exactly what we are doing.I couldn't care less. We should stay the f out of it. Our culture and country is already in shambles