sphagnum moss experienced growers?

Shaded420

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Sberarducci said:
Isn’t the NPK low on all of those ? I’ll just stick to the lift up pot method instead lol

This is how she looks today leaves still a little droopy but more roots out the pot then yesterday !

okay I’ll just do the lift pot method o
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Low? No the NPK is perfectly fine and balanced in those lines(4-4-4 for veg and 2-8-4 for bloom). In fact I use 2/3 of the recommended dose with GG and still have some slight nute burn. Less is more :)

Medium looking pretty saturated give it another day and see how dry it is.
 
Gregshed

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Roots find nutrients why your seeing more, there will still be plenty left and root tips haven't filled all the soil yet. It's just a shame it's started to droop, maybe overwatered a touch so something to work on. You might try repotting if it doesn't recover next but here is a par for different distances, Vipar say hang at 18" for veg on their website which I gather is 100% non dimmed.

You will find other posts online giving distances with growers and their plants as further guidelines.

Sure it's nothing more.
 
Sberarducci

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Gregshed said:
Roots find nutrients why your seeing more, there will still be plenty left and root tips haven't filled all the soil yet. It's just a shame it's started to droop, maybe overwatered a touch so something to work on. You might try repotting if it doesn't recover next but here is a par for different distances, Vipar say hang at 18" for veg on their website which I gather is 100% non dimmed.

You will find other posts online giving distances with growers and their plants as further guidelines.

Sure it's nothing more.
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Unfortunately I have to repot it today the little leaves are getting a little yellow & other set of leaves are a little droopy too
 
Sberarducci

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Shaded420 said:
Low? No the NPK is perfectly fine and balanced in those lines(4-4-4 for veg and 2-8-4 for bloom). In fact I use 2/3 of the recommended dose with GG and still have some slight nute burn. Less is more :)

Medium looking pretty saturated give it another day and see how dry it is.
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Oh okay I get what your saying ! I will go with the Dr.Earth one ! Heard a lot of good things

unfortunately I am going to have to repot her cause the soil is too wet & leaves are declining a little
 
Shaded420

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Sberarducci said:
Oh okay I get what your saying ! I will go with the Dr.Earth one ! Heard a lot of good things

unfortunately I am going to have to repot her cause the soil is too wet & leaves are declining a little
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You can repot if you want but imo it just needs a day or two to dry out and perk back up. As far as the yellowing? I don't see anything. I do see some slight yellowing of the cotyledons which is 100% their intended function. They provide the nutrients to the seedling as it grows - they will naturally yellow and fall off or your stem will just shred them apart.

Dou you have airflow on them? Stems looking a little spindly and thin
 
Sberarducci

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Shaded420 said:
You can repot if you want but imo it just needs a day or two to dry out and perk back up. As far as the yellowing? I don't see anything. I do see some slight yellowing of the cotyledons which is 100% their intended function. They provide the nutrients to the seedling as it grows - they will naturally yellow and fall off or your stem will just shred them apart.

Dou you have airflow on them? Stems looking a little spindly and thin
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They have a yellow tint to them the camera just isn’t getting it but okay so that’s normal for them to fall off.
& I don’t really but I have this fan
 

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Overwatering can mess everything up, I never do it. Maybe it is so it should perk up hopefully.

Is that fan blowing air out if the room not at the plant? That's how I would do it blowing out of the room to cool it some.

You don't need the foil if you have white walls, white reflects better.

It looks good although drooping, let's see what happens. Have your other seeds sprouted? Once they are move under the light as well get a little garden going.
 
Sberarducci

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Gregshed said:
Overwatering can mess everything up, I never do it. Maybe it is so it should perk up hopefully.

Is that fan blowing air out if the room not at the plant? That's how I would do it blowing out of the room to cool it some.

You don't need the foil if you have white walls, white reflects better.

It looks good although drooping, let's see what happens. Have your other seeds sprouted? Once they are move under the light as well get a little garden going.
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Okay I’ll take the foil off !
so should I have it facing out the closet or in ?
I assume out ?
& no I tried the soil method to sprout & it didn’t work. Maybe bad seed? Idk
 

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White walls are very reflective, some tents are white inside not foil, both work.

Your light looks very high, that seed might not be dead just not had long enough.

I would be blowing air out, that light shouldn't make it too hot. Exhausts work that way.
 
Sberarducci

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Yeah I might put the seed under the light I started this plant with ! Then I’ll check back in with that.
Okay I positioned facing out, although my steam is pretty strong but it is a little thin hopefully it thickens out.
Do you think I should repot tomorrow ? If it declines
 
Sberarducci

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Doing a little better today. Definitely drying out.
i know it’s a normal for the roots to come out but is it normal for them to die off once they come out the holes ? I’m thinking they want to spread more ? A root popped out of thetop this morning I covered it up tho.
 

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See if it perks up more. Roots dying in air at the bottom perfectly normal. Roots at the top mean it's filled out the soil somewhat.

Wait it out see if it gets its health back before anything then yes you can report.
 
Gregshed

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Veg I do 16+ but 16/8 is a good start point for you. It will help with watering and growth. They do grow on 12/12 but not as fast but some so 12/12 start to finish ok. If it's a hot country night time might be cooler for lights but it shouldn't matter that much.

There is a lot of basics to digest, light, watering, daylight hours, repotting and eventually fertiliser but you've done well to pay attention and get this far. It is simple but some practice.

I would hope is was just watering and light, it perks up and then takes off again.
 
Sberarducci

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Gregshed said:
Veg I do 16+ but 16/8 is a good start point for you. It will help with watering and growth. They do grow on 12/12 but not as fast but some so 12/12 start to finish ok. If it's a hot country night time might be cooler for lights but it shouldn't matter that much.

There is a lot of basics to digest, light, watering, daylight hours, repotting and eventually fertiliser but you've done well to pay attention and get this far. It is simple but some practice.

I would hope is was just watering and light, it perks up and then takes off again.
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Okay so I can start doing 16 light & 8 dark I’m getting a timer outlet Monday which helps a lot I have them for my house plants works wonders.
I live in CT it’s freezing right now & even then it won’t go outside because I live in a condo so it would be hard.

When I get to Veg stage how Often should I fertilize?

Yes I am hoping it is just a water issue right now & it perks up !
 
Gregshed

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Fertilize when they need or ask, it will be a few weeks after repotting but if you report to a 6" pot then a 9/10" they should not need fertilizer till they have started flowering.

That's how I do it in soil, feeds them quite well and as you see a small pot goes a long way fertilizer is not needed to start with. In effect your next repot will feed them for a couple more weeks.

You are in the veg stage already, they will grow more branches and in flower those branches will hold lots of buds.
 
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