Roger A. Shrubber
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you got it in one guess....
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Fogdog
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Wow, almost exactly the kind of reasoning people who want Putin's money launderer, Donald Trump to be our commander in chief.
Its' called grievance politics. Yours is a good example. There is no reasoning in your post to justify what Puitn is doing to the Ukraininian people. Just old grievances carried down from generations ago. Real modern day people are watchng Russia occupy the steets of their cities and you talk about Auschwitz. Auschwitz is a lesson about the capability to people to brutalize others for no good reason, not to do more of the same.
Are there bad people in Ukraine. Fascist types? Probably. I don't doubt it. What does their living and breathing have to do with tanks rolling into Kyiv?
Putin fabricated his own version of history. The strife in Donbas. He created that. Think about that. How Orwellian. Is that who you want to be? A follower of somebody who rewrites the past in order to control the future? Do you think that strategy is best for the people of Russia?
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Counter-sanctions against West to hit its ‘weak spots’– Moscow
Moscow will respond to sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Senate, Valentina Matviyenko, told journalists during her visit to Tajikistan on Friday.
“As for the reciprocal sanctions … they are ready,” Matviyenko said, adding that Russia’s response would not mirror the restrictions imposed by Washington and its allies but would instead hit the western nations where it hurts.
“We are well aware of the West’s weak spots and we have drafted an entire package … a series of potential sanctions to be used against those nations that announced sanctions against Russia,” the Senate head has said, adding that “the West has many soft spots.”
The official has not elaborated on any details of the drafted sanction proposals. She only said that the measures would be designed so as not to hurt Russia itself. The Russian government has taken “all the threats stemming from sanctions” into account and developed “safety mechanisms.”
Matviyenko has also said that Russia will remain a reliable gas supplier for Europe despite measures taken by the US and Germany against the Russian-backed Nord Stream 2 pipeline project. Berlin decided to put an immediate halt to the certification of the project even before Russia launched its operation in Ukraine. The decision was taken following the official recognition by Moscow of the two breakaway Donetsk and Lugansk Republics earlier this week.
The Russian Senate head’s words also come after US President Joe Biden imposed “long-term impact” sanctions against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine on Thursday. The measures targeted Russia’s banking sector, as well as the nation’s ability to do business in dollars, pounds, or yen. The restrictions did not involve cutting Russia off from the SWIFT system, though.
Later on Thursday, the EU followed suit by also targeting “70% of the Russian banking market, but also key state-owned companies, including the field of defense,” as the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen, put in her statement.
Russia launched a large-scale military operation in Ukraine on Thursday morning, seeking to “demilitarize and de-nazify” the “regime” in Kiev, according to the Kremlin.
www.rt.com
Germany’s ‘complete blockade’ of Russian banks excludes gas payments
Germany’s finance minister said on Friday that EU sanctions over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine had led to Russian banks being nearly completely blocked in his country. The only transactions still allowed were those by German companies to pay for Russian gas, Christian Lindner said.
“There is already a complete blockade of Russian banks. Thus, business traffic with Russian enterprises is practically blocked. In some cases, transactions are still possible. For example, to pay for gas supplies, so that German companies can make transfers to their subsidiaries in Russia,” Lindner said.
In a video posted on the German Finance Ministry Twitter account on Friday, Lindner added that Germany had secured energy supplies and was prepared for the possible consequences of the EU sanctions against Russia. He admitted, however, that the government is currently unsure what the exact consequences of the sanctions would be, and could result in even higher inflation, he said.
According to Lindner, the EU could impose further sanctions on Russia but the bloc had to make sure they impact the Russian economy specifically. The German government has been reported as saying on Friday that no sanctions against Russia’s energy sector were planned, as such measures could hurt Berlin more than Moscow.
The EU introduced sweeping sanctions against Russia earlier this week, targeting the country’s banking sector, as well as technology and airline industries. Europe’s energy sector faces some uncertainty in the wake of the Ukraine crisis as 40% of the bloc’s natural gas supplies come from Russia.
Earlier this week, Berlin suspended the Nord Stream 2 project – a pipeline that was intended to increase Russian gas deliveries to the EU. Germany’s Foreign Affairs Committee said on Thursday that new gas contracts with Russia were inconceivable.
Gas prices in Europe reacted to the developments by climbing as high as $1,500 per thousand cubic meters on Thursday. The German Energy Ministry said on Friday that it had begun to secure alternative sources of coal imports, as half of its coal supplies come from Russia.
www.rt.com
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov considers President Volodymyr Zelensky’s readiness to discuss a neutral status for Ukraine “a movement towards the positive.”
Earlier on Friday, the Ukrainian leader said he was prepared to discuss the possibility of neutrality for Ukraine with Russia, but on condition of securing “third-party guarantees.” However, he expressed doubts that any third countries would provide Kiev with such guarantees, as Ukraine is not a NATO member and “everybody is afraid.”
Peskov responded to Zelensky’s remarks, telling journalists that his preparedness for negotiations about neutrality is “a movement towards the positive,” and that the Kremlin would now have to analyze the statement.
Peskov’s comments appear much more restrained than recent remarks by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Following his meeting with officials from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics on Friday, the country’s top diplomat said Zelensky “is, to say it simply, lying, when he declares that he is ready to discuss the neutral status.”
“The opportunities missed by President Zelensky are well known, so there is no need to shift the blame to others,” Lavrov said.
He added that, by “freeing Ukraine from militarism and neo-Nazism” through its military operation, Russia was aiming to provide Ukrainians with the opportunity “to determine their own future without any pressure from outside.”
The offensive, which was launched on Thursday following an order by Vladimir Putin, has prompted international outrage with the British foreign minister calling the Russian government “an international pariah.” The widespread condemnation of the “unprovoked” attack has caused a new wave of sanctions against Russia and cancellations of various sports and cultural events, both Russia-based and Russia-related.
www.rt.com
Not that their words mean much when they regularly say up is down.
Moscow will respond to sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Senate, Valentina Matviyenko, told journalists during her visit to Tajikistan on Friday.
“As for the reciprocal sanctions … they are ready,” Matviyenko said, adding that Russia’s response would not mirror the restrictions imposed by Washington and its allies but would instead hit the western nations where it hurts.
“We are well aware of the West’s weak spots and we have drafted an entire package … a series of potential sanctions to be used against those nations that announced sanctions against Russia,” the Senate head has said, adding that “the West has many soft spots.”
The official has not elaborated on any details of the drafted sanction proposals. She only said that the measures would be designed so as not to hurt Russia itself. The Russian government has taken “all the threats stemming from sanctions” into account and developed “safety mechanisms.”
Matviyenko has also said that Russia will remain a reliable gas supplier for Europe despite measures taken by the US and Germany against the Russian-backed Nord Stream 2 pipeline project. Berlin decided to put an immediate halt to the certification of the project even before Russia launched its operation in Ukraine. The decision was taken following the official recognition by Moscow of the two breakaway Donetsk and Lugansk Republics earlier this week.
The Russian Senate head’s words also come after US President Joe Biden imposed “long-term impact” sanctions against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine on Thursday. The measures targeted Russia’s banking sector, as well as the nation’s ability to do business in dollars, pounds, or yen. The restrictions did not involve cutting Russia off from the SWIFT system, though.
Later on Thursday, the EU followed suit by also targeting “70% of the Russian banking market, but also key state-owned companies, including the field of defense,” as the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen, put in her statement.
Russia launched a large-scale military operation in Ukraine on Thursday morning, seeking to “demilitarize and de-nazify” the “regime” in Kiev, according to the Kremlin.
Counter-sanctions against West to hit its ‘weak spots’– Moscow
Moscow has drafted a set of counter-sanctions designed to hit the West’s “weak spots,” the Russian Senate head has said
Germany’s ‘complete blockade’ of Russian banks excludes gas payments
Germany’s finance minister said on Friday that EU sanctions over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine had led to Russian banks being nearly completely blocked in his country. The only transactions still allowed were those by German companies to pay for Russian gas, Christian Lindner said.
“There is already a complete blockade of Russian banks. Thus, business traffic with Russian enterprises is practically blocked. In some cases, transactions are still possible. For example, to pay for gas supplies, so that German companies can make transfers to their subsidiaries in Russia,” Lindner said.
In a video posted on the German Finance Ministry Twitter account on Friday, Lindner added that Germany had secured energy supplies and was prepared for the possible consequences of the EU sanctions against Russia. He admitted, however, that the government is currently unsure what the exact consequences of the sanctions would be, and could result in even higher inflation, he said.
According to Lindner, the EU could impose further sanctions on Russia but the bloc had to make sure they impact the Russian economy specifically. The German government has been reported as saying on Friday that no sanctions against Russia’s energy sector were planned, as such measures could hurt Berlin more than Moscow.
The EU introduced sweeping sanctions against Russia earlier this week, targeting the country’s banking sector, as well as technology and airline industries. Europe’s energy sector faces some uncertainty in the wake of the Ukraine crisis as 40% of the bloc’s natural gas supplies come from Russia.
Earlier this week, Berlin suspended the Nord Stream 2 project – a pipeline that was intended to increase Russian gas deliveries to the EU. Germany’s Foreign Affairs Committee said on Thursday that new gas contracts with Russia were inconceivable.
Gas prices in Europe reacted to the developments by climbing as high as $1,500 per thousand cubic meters on Thursday. The German Energy Ministry said on Friday that it had begun to secure alternative sources of coal imports, as half of its coal supplies come from Russia.
Germany’s ‘complete blockade’ of Russian banks excludes gas payments
Germany has blocked almost all transactions by Russian banks with only gas payments allowed as part of EU sanctions over the Ukraine crisis
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov considers President Volodymyr Zelensky’s readiness to discuss a neutral status for Ukraine “a movement towards the positive.”
Earlier on Friday, the Ukrainian leader said he was prepared to discuss the possibility of neutrality for Ukraine with Russia, but on condition of securing “third-party guarantees.” However, he expressed doubts that any third countries would provide Kiev with such guarantees, as Ukraine is not a NATO member and “everybody is afraid.”
Peskov responded to Zelensky’s remarks, telling journalists that his preparedness for negotiations about neutrality is “a movement towards the positive,” and that the Kremlin would now have to analyze the statement.
Peskov’s comments appear much more restrained than recent remarks by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Following his meeting with officials from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics on Friday, the country’s top diplomat said Zelensky “is, to say it simply, lying, when he declares that he is ready to discuss the neutral status.”
“The opportunities missed by President Zelensky are well known, so there is no need to shift the blame to others,” Lavrov said.
He added that, by “freeing Ukraine from militarism and neo-Nazism” through its military operation, Russia was aiming to provide Ukrainians with the opportunity “to determine their own future without any pressure from outside.”
The offensive, which was launched on Thursday following an order by Vladimir Putin, has prompted international outrage with the British foreign minister calling the Russian government “an international pariah.” The widespread condemnation of the “unprovoked” attack has caused a new wave of sanctions against Russia and cancellations of various sports and cultural events, both Russia-based and Russia-related.
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks
Vladimir Putin’s spokesman says Volodymyr Zelensky’s remarks about neutrality represent “a movement towards the positive”
Not that their words mean much when they regularly say up is down.
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Russia Sends Bone-Chilling Message To Sweden & Finland; Threatens ‘Military Implications’ If They Go The Ukraine Way
Amid the ongoing Russian military operations in Ukraine, the country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday that Moscow will have to respond if Sweden and Finland become NATO members.
“All OSCE member states in their national capacity, including Finland and Sweden, have reaffirmed the principle that the security of one country cannot be built at the expense of the security of others.
Obviously, the accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO, which is primarily a military alliance as you well understand, would have serious military and political consequences, which would require our country to make response steps,” Zakharova told a briefing.
On Thursday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg invited Sweden and Finland to attend a NATO virtual summit on the situation in and around Ukraine on Friday. On the same day, Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin said that Finland will be ready to join NATO “if the issue of national security becomes acute.”
eurasiantimes.com
I have been talking online with a doctor in Sweden for a while, he says he might be away for a while, pretty sure being called up.
Amid the ongoing Russian military operations in Ukraine, the country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday that Moscow will have to respond if Sweden and Finland become NATO members.
“All OSCE member states in their national capacity, including Finland and Sweden, have reaffirmed the principle that the security of one country cannot be built at the expense of the security of others.
Obviously, the accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO, which is primarily a military alliance as you well understand, would have serious military and political consequences, which would require our country to make response steps,” Zakharova told a briefing.
On Thursday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg invited Sweden and Finland to attend a NATO virtual summit on the situation in and around Ukraine on Friday. On the same day, Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin said that Finland will be ready to join NATO “if the issue of national security becomes acute.”
Russia Sends Bone-Chilling Message To Sweden & Finland; Threatens 'Military Implications' If They Go The Ukraine Way
Amid the ongoing Russian military operations in Ukraine, the country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday that Moscow will have to respond if Sweden and Finland become NATO members. “All OSCE member states in their national capacity, including Finland and Sweden, have...
eurasiantimes.com
I have been talking online with a doctor in Sweden for a while, he says he might be away for a while, pretty sure being called up.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Lol, I know where your heads at. That would be a sick , hitting it with Sean and Hank. Lol.
printer
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Putin Calls for Ukraine Army to Overthrow Zelensky
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday called on the Ukrainian army to overthrow the government whose leaders he described as "terrorists" and "a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis."
Putin also accused "Ukrainian nationalists" of deploying heavy weapons in residential areas of major cities to provoke the Russian military, a claim that could fuel fears Moscow is creating pretexts for justifying civilian casualties.
In a televised address, he urged the Ukrainian military to "take power in your own hands."
"It seems like it will be easier for us to agree with you than this gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis," he said, referring to the leadership in Kyiv under President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish.
Putin, who on Thursday ordered Russian troops to invade Ukraine, claimed that Ukrainian "nationalists" were preparing to deploy multiple rocket launchers to residential areas of Ukrainian cities, including Kyiv and the northeastern city of Kharkiv.
Ukraine's leadership are "acting like terrorists all over the world: they are hiding behind people in the hope of then blaming Russia for civilian casualties."
"It is known for a fact that this is happening on the recommendation of foreign consultants, primarily American advisers," Putin said.
Separately, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said of the alleged deployment: "We consider the situation to be extremely dangerous."
Putin and top Russian officials have said Moscow's troops are only targeting ultra-nationalists in Ukraine.
Putin also praised Russian troops saying they were acting in a "courageous and professional manner."
"They are successfully solving the most important task of ensuring the security of our people and our Fatherland," Putin said.
www.themoscowtimes.com
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday called on the Ukrainian army to overthrow the government whose leaders he described as "terrorists" and "a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis."
Putin also accused "Ukrainian nationalists" of deploying heavy weapons in residential areas of major cities to provoke the Russian military, a claim that could fuel fears Moscow is creating pretexts for justifying civilian casualties.
In a televised address, he urged the Ukrainian military to "take power in your own hands."
"It seems like it will be easier for us to agree with you than this gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis," he said, referring to the leadership in Kyiv under President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish.
Putin, who on Thursday ordered Russian troops to invade Ukraine, claimed that Ukrainian "nationalists" were preparing to deploy multiple rocket launchers to residential areas of Ukrainian cities, including Kyiv and the northeastern city of Kharkiv.
Ukraine's leadership are "acting like terrorists all over the world: they are hiding behind people in the hope of then blaming Russia for civilian casualties."
"It is known for a fact that this is happening on the recommendation of foreign consultants, primarily American advisers," Putin said.
Separately, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said of the alleged deployment: "We consider the situation to be extremely dangerous."
Putin and top Russian officials have said Moscow's troops are only targeting ultra-nationalists in Ukraine.
Putin also praised Russian troops saying they were acting in a "courageous and professional manner."
"They are successfully solving the most important task of ensuring the security of our people and our Fatherland," Putin said.
Putin Calls for Ukraine Army to Overthrow Zelensky - The Moscow Times
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday called on the Ukrainian army to overthrow the government whose leaders he described as "terrorists" and "a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis."
Fogdog
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Exactly. Putin is the brutal 19th century invader. Guns, tanks, occupation, stripping away rights, freedoms and everything that is nailed down from a people who can't defend themselves well enough to keep the tanks out. 19th century politics hinges on the "might makes right" concept. 21st century is not like that. 21st century politics is about technological growth. They are about gaining and sharing information so economies can grow, people lives can improve. It's about cooperation as you are seeing right now with sanctions imposed on Putin and Russia that will set their moribund. economy back further.
Even his reason why it is the West's fault is a perfect example of the past. Biden and NATO are demanding he not wreck Ukraine, so that justifies Putin's actions. It sounds more like a domestic story. The wife beater tells his beaten wife that it was her fault that he blew his top. To make that story match what's going on in Ukraine, the wife beater's justification is false.
Is that the kind of person you are?
DIY-HP-LED
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They will join NATO, both sell advanced weapons systems and have strong armed forces, the last time Russia attacked Finland it didn't go so well and Finland would have NATO support in a flash. Norway could fund a massive armament program and armed forces expansion in Sweden with pocket change. NATO is moving into the Baltics in a big way, if Vlad figures he wants to grab that too while threatening nuclear annihilation to any who dare interfere.Russia Sends Bone-Chilling Message To Sweden & Finland; Threatens ‘Military Implications’ If They Go The Ukraine Way
Amid the ongoing Russian military operations in Ukraine, the country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday that Moscow will have to respond if Sweden and Finland become NATO members.
“All OSCE member states in their national capacity, including Finland and Sweden, have reaffirmed the principle that the security of one country cannot be built at the expense of the security of others.
Obviously, the accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO, which is primarily a military alliance as you well understand, would have serious military and political consequences, which would require our country to make response steps,” Zakharova told a briefing.
On Thursday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg invited Sweden and Finland to attend a NATO virtual summit on the situation in and around Ukraine on Friday. On the same day, Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin said that Finland will be ready to join NATO “if the issue of national security becomes acute.”
Russia Sends Bone-Chilling Message To Sweden & Finland; Threatens 'Military Implications' If They Go The Ukraine Way
Amid the ongoing Russian military operations in Ukraine, the country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Friday that Moscow will have to respond if Sweden and Finland become NATO members. “All OSCE member states in their national capacity, including Finland and Sweden, have...
I have been talking online with a doctor in Sweden for a while, he says he might be away for a while, pretty sure being called up.
Biden and NATO are gonna crush Russia with cold war 2, it might take awhile, but we are gonna sanction the fuckers into the stone age. By the time they get to sell any oil it will be like coal and everybody will be transitioning to green new grids. They might not be as green as we like in the beginning, but over the next decade they will depend more on renewables and grid storage, the market for petroleum will diminish over time and the price should drop.
In the end it will fuck Russia and it will be worth it to either kick them off the internet or limit their access as much as possible and filter everything that comes out of the place. Russia is headed for economic disaster, it won't help the people in the Ukraine much right now, but if they put up a good fight now, it might pay off in the future.
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That is fucked up shit- by a RUSSIAN..why don't we like them again? why can't they be part of us? NATO, G7?
DIY-HP-LED
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Things will be different by next winter, they will be able to be supplied with LNG tankers and other alternatives will be explored. Stop gap measures until a green new grid is built out in sections and stages. Denmark will probably reconsider it's ban on new gas development, is energy independent on renewables and sell gas to Germany, Norway can pipe it in too. Austria gets 80% of it's energy from renewables, France has a significant portion of their produced by nuclear.Counter-sanctions against West to hit its ‘weak spots’– Moscow
Moscow will respond to sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Senate, Valentina Matviyenko, told journalists during her visit to Tajikistan on Friday.
“As for the reciprocal sanctions … they are ready,” Matviyenko said, adding that Russia’s response would not mirror the restrictions imposed by Washington and its allies but would instead hit the western nations where it hurts.
“We are well aware of the West’s weak spots and we have drafted an entire package … a series of potential sanctions to be used against those nations that announced sanctions against Russia,” the Senate head has said, adding that “the West has many soft spots.”
The official has not elaborated on any details of the drafted sanction proposals. She only said that the measures would be designed so as not to hurt Russia itself. The Russian government has taken “all the threats stemming from sanctions” into account and developed “safety mechanisms.”
Matviyenko has also said that Russia will remain a reliable gas supplier for Europe despite measures taken by the US and Germany against the Russian-backed Nord Stream 2 pipeline project. Berlin decided to put an immediate halt to the certification of the project even before Russia launched its operation in Ukraine. The decision was taken following the official recognition by Moscow of the two breakaway Donetsk and Lugansk Republics earlier this week.
The Russian Senate head’s words also come after US President Joe Biden imposed “long-term impact” sanctions against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine on Thursday. The measures targeted Russia’s banking sector, as well as the nation’s ability to do business in dollars, pounds, or yen. The restrictions did not involve cutting Russia off from the SWIFT system, though.
Later on Thursday, the EU followed suit by also targeting “70% of the Russian banking market, but also key state-owned companies, including the field of defense,” as the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen, put in her statement.
Russia launched a large-scale military operation in Ukraine on Thursday morning, seeking to “demilitarize and de-nazify” the “regime” in Kiev, according to the Kremlin.
Counter-sanctions against West to hit its ‘weak spots’– Moscow
Moscow has drafted a set of counter-sanctions designed to hit the West’s “weak spots,” the Russian Senate head has said
Germany’s ‘complete blockade’ of Russian banks excludes gas payments
Germany’s finance minister said on Friday that EU sanctions over Russia’s military operation in Ukraine had led to Russian banks being nearly completely blocked in his country. The only transactions still allowed were those by German companies to pay for Russian gas, Christian Lindner said.
“There is already a complete blockade of Russian banks. Thus, business traffic with Russian enterprises is practically blocked. In some cases, transactions are still possible. For example, to pay for gas supplies, so that German companies can make transfers to their subsidiaries in Russia,” Lindner said.
In a video posted on the German Finance Ministry Twitter account on Friday, Lindner added that Germany had secured energy supplies and was prepared for the possible consequences of the EU sanctions against Russia. He admitted, however, that the government is currently unsure what the exact consequences of the sanctions would be, and could result in even higher inflation, he said.
According to Lindner, the EU could impose further sanctions on Russia but the bloc had to make sure they impact the Russian economy specifically. The German government has been reported as saying on Friday that no sanctions against Russia’s energy sector were planned, as such measures could hurt Berlin more than Moscow.
The EU introduced sweeping sanctions against Russia earlier this week, targeting the country’s banking sector, as well as technology and airline industries. Europe’s energy sector faces some uncertainty in the wake of the Ukraine crisis as 40% of the bloc’s natural gas supplies come from Russia.
Earlier this week, Berlin suspended the Nord Stream 2 project – a pipeline that was intended to increase Russian gas deliveries to the EU. Germany’s Foreign Affairs Committee said on Thursday that new gas contracts with Russia were inconceivable.
Gas prices in Europe reacted to the developments by climbing as high as $1,500 per thousand cubic meters on Thursday. The German Energy Ministry said on Friday that it had begun to secure alternative sources of coal imports, as half of its coal supplies come from Russia.
Germany’s ‘complete blockade’ of Russian banks excludes gas payments
Germany has blocked almost all transactions by Russian banks with only gas payments allowed as part of EU sanctions over the Ukraine crisis
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov considers President Volodymyr Zelensky’s readiness to discuss a neutral status for Ukraine “a movement towards the positive.”
Earlier on Friday, the Ukrainian leader said he was prepared to discuss the possibility of neutrality for Ukraine with Russia, but on condition of securing “third-party guarantees.” However, he expressed doubts that any third countries would provide Kiev with such guarantees, as Ukraine is not a NATO member and “everybody is afraid.”
Peskov responded to Zelensky’s remarks, telling journalists that his preparedness for negotiations about neutrality is “a movement towards the positive,” and that the Kremlin would now have to analyze the statement.
Peskov’s comments appear much more restrained than recent remarks by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Following his meeting with officials from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics on Friday, the country’s top diplomat said Zelensky “is, to say it simply, lying, when he declares that he is ready to discuss the neutral status.”
“The opportunities missed by President Zelensky are well known, so there is no need to shift the blame to others,” Lavrov said.
He added that, by “freeing Ukraine from militarism and neo-Nazism” through its military operation, Russia was aiming to provide Ukrainians with the opportunity “to determine their own future without any pressure from outside.”
The offensive, which was launched on Thursday following an order by Vladimir Putin, has prompted international outrage with the British foreign minister calling the Russian government “an international pariah.” The widespread condemnation of the “unprovoked” attack has caused a new wave of sanctions against Russia and cancellations of various sports and cultural events, both Russia-based and Russia-related.
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks
Vladimir Putin’s spokesman says Volodymyr Zelensky’s remarks about neutrality represent “a movement towards the positive”
Not that their words mean much when they regularly say up is down.
They will be largely independent of Russian gas and oil soon and would be in a decade anyway, this will speed things up tremendously, in Europe and here too. Most cars on the road will be EV's in a decade and more of them will be sold than ICE vehicles by far. Distances are shorter in Europe and EV's will do quite well there and most of the railways are electric.
printer
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US Defense official: Russians 'meeting more resistance' than they expected
“I can't give you an exact geographic location of where they are, but they are not moving on Kyiv as fast as what we believe they anticipated they would be able to do,” the official told reporters.
“In general, the Russians have lost a little bit of their momentum,” the official later added.
The official said Russian troops haven't taken any population centers and Russia does not have air superiority over Ukraine as “Ukrainian air defenses are still working,” and the country still has air and missile defenses.
The Russians are continuing to advance into three major areas of Ukraine since beginning an assault on the country early Thursday morning, local time. Kremlin troops are advancing toward Kyiv from Belarus; into the Kharkiv area in the east, Ukraine’s second largest city; and from Crimea in the south towards Kherson, which sits on a major river, the official said.
Russian forces moving toward Kherson have also appeared to split off to head to the northeast “in the direction of Mariupol and the Donbas region,” the official added.
The U.S. assessed Russian forces have fired more than 200 missiles into Ukraine since the start of the invasion.
Most of the projectiles fired are short-range ballistic missiles but include a mix of medium-range and cruise missiles as well, the official said.
“Some of these missiles we have assessed have impacted civilian residential areas,” but the death toll is unknown, they said.
“I cannot tell you at this time what the casualties are, and I cannot tell you at this time whether those civilian residential areas were deliberately targeted. All I can tell you is we have seen that they have been impacted by some of these missiles.”
The official also confirmed that there is a Russian “amphibious assault” underway to the west of Mariupol along the Ukrainian coast. The assault is coming from the Sea of Azov, with indications that the Russians “are putting potentially thousands of naval infantry ashore there.”
The general assumption “is they are going to move towards the northeast, towards Mariupol and the Donbas region,” they said.
Of the total Russian forces amassed near Ukraine ahead of the invasion, Moscow has used “about a third of their combat power” as of Friday, the official said.
“That does not mean that they will not commit more, I’m just giving you a snapshot of what we’re seeing right now,” they added.
thehill.com
“I can't give you an exact geographic location of where they are, but they are not moving on Kyiv as fast as what we believe they anticipated they would be able to do,” the official told reporters.
“In general, the Russians have lost a little bit of their momentum,” the official later added.
The official said Russian troops haven't taken any population centers and Russia does not have air superiority over Ukraine as “Ukrainian air defenses are still working,” and the country still has air and missile defenses.
The Russians are continuing to advance into three major areas of Ukraine since beginning an assault on the country early Thursday morning, local time. Kremlin troops are advancing toward Kyiv from Belarus; into the Kharkiv area in the east, Ukraine’s second largest city; and from Crimea in the south towards Kherson, which sits on a major river, the official said.
Russian forces moving toward Kherson have also appeared to split off to head to the northeast “in the direction of Mariupol and the Donbas region,” the official added.
The U.S. assessed Russian forces have fired more than 200 missiles into Ukraine since the start of the invasion.
Most of the projectiles fired are short-range ballistic missiles but include a mix of medium-range and cruise missiles as well, the official said.
“Some of these missiles we have assessed have impacted civilian residential areas,” but the death toll is unknown, they said.
“I cannot tell you at this time what the casualties are, and I cannot tell you at this time whether those civilian residential areas were deliberately targeted. All I can tell you is we have seen that they have been impacted by some of these missiles.”
The official also confirmed that there is a Russian “amphibious assault” underway to the west of Mariupol along the Ukrainian coast. The assault is coming from the Sea of Azov, with indications that the Russians “are putting potentially thousands of naval infantry ashore there.”
The general assumption “is they are going to move towards the northeast, towards Mariupol and the Donbas region,” they said.
Of the total Russian forces amassed near Ukraine ahead of the invasion, Moscow has used “about a third of their combat power” as of Friday, the official said.
“That does not mean that they will not commit more, I’m just giving you a snapshot of what we’re seeing right now,” they added.
US defense official: Russians ‘meeting more resistance’ than they expected
Russian forces moving toward Ukraine’s capital city of Kyiv are “meeting more resistance than they expected,” a senior defense official said Friday. “I can’t give you a…
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ANC
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Let's say the USA and NATO doesn't go to fight (unless made to) but injected themselves between the two parties....
what would the situation look like now?
The only reason ukraine is not a member is that the rest of nato doesn't really want to spend any money they don't have to.
I mean they just about begged this week and the world turned its backs on them.
what would the situation look like now?
The only reason ukraine is not a member is that the rest of nato doesn't really want to spend any money they don't have to.
I mean they just about begged this week and the world turned its backs on them.
Roger A. Shrubber
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well, lets just bomb the fuck out of both of their pipelines, in about 20 different spots...then let them talk some more shit...
ANC
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Only because they want it to be... it can be as easy as a vote... How about some of that democracy we are supposedly fighting over.
DIY-HP-LED
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Nobody wants to get nuked, so we proceed with caution, this is not about morals, but survival and not escalating things into truly stupid and terrifying territory. The plan will be for Vlad to swallow Ukraine with as much pain as possible and let Russia know it had a fight, cost them lot's of lives, it's up to the people there what the body count will be though.
Meanwhile Russia is gonna be strangled economically and is gonna spend a lot of time trying to weasel out of or try to get around crippling sanctions. The average Russian makes around $400/mth from the sources I can find, they recently had a raise to $800/mth, they might be living on $100/mth, provided they can find work in a year.
DIY-HP-LED
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Anybody else having internet issues? Google seems to be down and the larger sites seem to be having trouble. Cyber attack or is it just me?