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SecretAgentX9

SecretAgentX9

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Zett66 said:
Ok thanks for the detail. at first it sounded like almost all the stuff you ran hermed, but apparently only most of a certain tester pack?
Was a bit confusing at first and sounded like you are someone whon doesnt know what he is doing, now it sounds more like a certain tester strain you poped hermed on you.

So which strains did you have no luck with and how many of the seeds you started hermed?

I liked the 2 Apollo crosses, but the Dragon fighter freebee was a waste of time and effort. Some people on here didnt like me saying that either, but I was not the only one that had that experience. no hermie, but totally lackluster results and I grew some Terenado that same run same tent and they turned out WAY better, so Im all for honest feedback
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I should have clarified for sure.... but the two strains i ran were the valley ghash x cake fighter and the thunderfck mtn × sunshine 4. I was interested in the results since all the strains used in crossing intrigued me. the valley ghash × cake fighter put out some very indica-esque plants in veg which were honestly a treat to watch grow. I didnt top or train many except a few just to see how they reacted and to show the true integrity of their natural structures.... but like i said around start of week 4 all but 2 (one of each strain) showed male genitalia. not just nanners but full fledge pollen sacks amongst the female flowers. if it was just a few nanners i probably would have picked them off and kept them going. we'll see how the remaining ones do, which i did take a cut of the better looking one just in case. running alot of diff strains in my 8×4 right now. mostly my keepers from past runs but i had some space to fill so i figured id try them out.

no harm no foul though and i didnt mean to come off as a jerk. im sure some of the freebies bad dawg puts out end up being some nice crosses. herms are bound to happen but anymore my first instinct is to attribute that trait to genetic factors opposed to environmental stessors. even my post on here from 2016 about my whole room getting pollinated, looking back i believe it was a genetic issue. i just had much less of an understanding then.

at the end of the day i believe about 80-90% of these beans showed herm traits. I forget the exact number i popped but i think around 15. ended up with 8 fems and tossed all but 2
 
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Zett66

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SecretAgentX9 said:
I should have clarified for sure.... but the two strains i ran were the valley ghash x cake fighter and the thunderfck mtn × sunshine 4. I was interested in the results since all the strains used in crossing intrigued me. the valley ghash × cake fighter put out some very indica-esque plants in veg which were honestly a treat to watch grow. I didnt top or train many except a few just to see how they reacted and to show the true integrity of their natural structures.... but like i said around start of week 4 all but 2 (one of each strain) showed male genitalia. not just nanners but full fledge pollen sacks amongst the female flowers. if it was just a few nanners i probably would have picked them off and kept them going. we'll see how the remaining ones do, which i did take a cut of the better looking one just in case. running alot of diff strains in my 8×4 right now. mostly my keepers from past runs but i had some space to fill so i figured id try them out.

no harm no foul though and i didnt mean to come off as a jerk. im sure some of the freebies bad dawg puts out end up being some nice crosses. herms are bound to happen but anymore my first instinct is to attribute that trait to genetic factors opposed to environmental stessors. even my post on here from 2016 about my whole room getting pollinated, looking back i believe it was a genetic issue. i just had much less of an understanding then.

at the end of the day i believe about 80-90% of these beans showed herm traits. I forget the exact number i popped but i think around 15. ended up with 8 fems and tossed all but 2
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Thanks, that clears things up. I have the valley gash x cake fighter freebee as well and will not pop those based on your review here anytime soon.

At this point I have so many seeds, all the testers and Freebess are at the very end of the line anyways, will be years before I'm through with the strains I plan on growing.
 
mawasmada

mawasmada

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Zett66 said:
Thanks, that clears things up. I have the valley gash x cake fighter freebee as well and will not pop those based on your review here anytime soon.

At this point I have so many seeds, all the testers and Freebess are at the very end of the line anyways, will be years before I'm through with the strains I plan on growing.
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I regift many of the freebies, but keep what I think will fit my personal tastes. Still interested in running anything with the 3 Headed Dragon male Bad Dawg used.
 
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Zett66

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mawasmada said:
I regift many of the freebies, but keep what I think will fit my personal tastes. Still interested in running anything with the 3 Headed Dragon male Bad Dawg used.
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Yea find out for yourself. Maybe I was just unlucky with the pheno types, or they didnt like my indoor.

That being said though, no other strain I ever grew came out with such a lack of smell or potency
 
mawasmada

mawasmada

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Zett66 said:
Yea find out for yourself. Maybe I was just unlucky with the pheno types, or they didnt like my indoor.

That being said though, no other strain I ever grew came out with such a lack of smell or potency
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I ran the Stardawg(JJ) x 3HD, and it was absolute fire. Potency and smell were great, and the flavor was amazing for me! Not every strain or pheno is winner, but then again worst for one can be best for another.
 
keiserrott

keiserrott

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Bad Dawg said:
Hello
This is Bad Dawg
First off, I like any feed back I can get on my gear. Good or Bad.
If I feel there is a problem I will pull a strain and tell peeps that there are reported problems.

And I do not have a ATF? I have a Thunder F*** Moutain. Is this what you have?

But before you say I am ridiculous. Please read all of the comments on here , Zlab, IG and many more.
There are a lot of happy campers.

And when you say "1 guy on IG said they all hermi". Once again please ck out all of the positive reports.

And when you have 2 different strains with different parents, it is unlikely that they all hermi.
When I have a issue like that. I normally find that I have a problem with the grow. Not the genetics.

I have looked and do not have any reports on these 2 strains, good or bad.
And the stock I breed with has always been grown out by me before I breed with it.

And they are called freebie/testers so you now to watch them. And most have been tested, just not indoors. So I do not consider them fully tested.

If you would like to try something different. Let me know and I can give you some fully tested freebies.

Sorry you had a problem and I will make a note about it, so if I get any more bad feed back I will pull them.

Thanks BD
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You're a class act Bad Dawg.
 
Bad Dawg

Bad Dawg

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unomas said:
Will any more Sunshine 4 crosses be available? I missed when they were being given out :cry:
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There are still Sunshine Crosses available.
And some that have not been released.
Currently
Tarantula Genetics has GSC x SS4
Mass Medical has Putang x SS4 (tested great)
Brown Sugar (90's Hash plant x F**king Incredible) x SS4
SS4 x Cake fighter With Copa Genetics.
Just ran out of Chrome diesel x SS4
And that is just working off of my memory. LOL
 
Bad Dawg

Bad Dawg

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Zett66 said:
Ok thanks for the detail. at first it sounded like almost all the stuff you ran hermed, but apparently only most of a certain tester pack?
Was a bit confusing at first and sounded like you are someone whon doesnt know what he is doing, now it sounds more like a certain tester strain you poped hermed on you.

So which strains did you have no luck with and how many of the seeds you started hermed?

I liked the 2 Apollo crosses, but the Dragon fighter freebee was a waste of time and effort. Some people on here didnt like me saying that either, but I was not the only one that had that experience. no hermie, but totally lackluster results and I grew some Terenado that same run same tent and they turned out WAY better, so Im all for honest feedback
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I also grew out Dragon fighter. And the 3 Headed Dragon female did not Breed well ,like the father did. The terps did not come threw on the off spring and I dropped her from the breeder list. How ever I wish I would have kept the 3 Headed male around.:wall:
 
Leatherneck0311

Leatherneck0311

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Bad Dawg said:
I also grew out Dragon fighter. And the 3 Headed Dragon female did not Breed well ,like the father did. The terps did not come threw on the off spring and I dropped her from the breeder list. How ever I wish I would have kept the 3 Headed male around.:wall:
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I am going to get into the Ortega x apollo. I did not like the dragon fighter I grew outdoors but I’m not hating just going to dive into some other stuff and also the hillbilly Kush
 
Leatherneck0311

Leatherneck0311

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i actually have way more freebies than I thought. Which ones have you had the best luck with outdoors. Since I’m in same state I’m sure you have a good opinion that would be useful for me. Thanks!!
 
freewanderer04

freewanderer04

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Heard in The Potcast interview with Sha Bud from 707 Seedbank that he uses an LBL dad for some of his crosses but renamed it Kush Cleaner. Thought that was interesting. Mentioned he got the genetics from Loran. I haven't ran any of the freebies yet but wondering if the descriptions are similar enough for cross referencing. Like his Eye Candy is GSC x Kush Cleaner (LBL). Says it ups the yield of the Cookies and most phenos have a gassy/piney profile with high resin production.
 
Bad Dawg

Bad Dawg

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freewanderer04 said:
Heard in The Potcast interview with Sha Bud from 707 Seedbank that he uses an LBL dad for some of his crosses but renamed it Kush Cleaner. Thought that was interesting. Mentioned he got the genetics from Loran. I haven't ran any of the freebies yet but wondering if the descriptions are similar enough for cross referencing. Like his Eye Candy is GSC x Kush Cleaner (LBL). Says it ups the yield of the Cookies and most phenos have a gassy/piney profile with high resin production.
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Long Bottom Leaf and Kush Cleaner are the same strain. I still have a bag of the original f1,s from loran and they have both names on the package.
And LBL seemed to de very stable, so I would think that 707,s crosses would be firer. All the crosses Mota and I made with LBL were above average.

There are picks of GSC x LBL here or at Zlab. Thanks BD Just found a pick oof GSC x LBL from my stock.
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Leatherneck0311 said:
i actually have way more freebies than I thought. Which ones have you had the best luck with outdoors. Since I’m in same state I’m sure you have a good opinion that would be useful for me. Thanks!!
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If you list some of the freebies you are considering, I can offer some guidance. Thanks BD
 
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