Best Nutrients for Quality at Any Price

PJ Diaz

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That makes sense about the fulvic acid. Maybe I'll start using more kelp too. I've got a 25# bucket here.
There are studies which I could point to that show both increased size and dry weight of plants treated with kelp or fulvic vs control plants. I haven't seen any related to flavor or crops, but I think it's safe to assume that healthier plants = tastier crops.

I've been using kelp forever, since growing my first cannabis plant back in 1993. I'm not sure how I stumbled onto the magical properties of kelp for plants, but it must have been in a book from the library or something, because that's how we found out things back then, no YouTube lol. I still remember the first brand of kelp for plants I bought, which was Maxicrop. I grew that first plant with Miracle-Gro and Maxicrop, and I swear it was excellent. Then again that was 1993, so expectations of weed were a lot different back then.
 

PJ Diaz

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Careful with adding kelp regularly if you're reusing your soil, it brings a lot of arsenic and sodium over time. Really great stuff though for a myriad of reasons I'm sure people have covered a million times.
Good call. That's actually why I've chilled using it as much.
You don't have to put it in the grow medium, it's great as a foliar application, which is why I buy the soluable stuff and generally not the meal.
 

PadawanWarrior

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There are studies which I could point to that show both increased size and dry weight of plants treated with kelp or fulvic vs control plants. I haven't seen any related to flavor or crops, but I think it's safe to assume that healthier plants = tastier crops.

I've been using kelp forever, since growing my first cannabis plant back in 1993. I'm not sure how I stumbled onto the magical properties of kelp for plants, but it must have been in a book from the library or something, because that's how we found out things back then, no YouTube lol. I still remember the first brand of kelp for plants I bought, which was Maxicrop. I grew that first plant with Miracle-Gro and Maxicrop, and I swear it was excellent. Then again that was 1993, so expectations of weed were a lot different back then.
I'd be willing to check them out. I've been using it for a few years. It's in most of my mixes. But I started using a bunch, and when I heard about the arsenic and salts I've started using less.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Ok....again...I said "there is something to what is being used"

One friend used it and it made a smell and taste I havent noticed anywhere else. That's it. I never claimed NFTG was the best. I dont use it. Lol wtf with you bro? I realize the thread is about best nutrients...I shared that they seemed different and good. Nothing more or less. Come down off the hill and chill. Seriously you are so wound up about my comment.

I said I noticed a difference. Re read it again. Did I like his bud? Not really. I mean holy fxxxx how OCD are you...
You stated the reason for the best flavor and smell you ever experienced was the nutrients alone. You said he was an average grower and did nothing special and didn't have special genetics.

I don't need to re-read what you wrote I already quoted exactly what you said regarding the fact. Doesn't help you keep contradicting yourself, even in the same post.

Yes this thread is about the best nutrients. You shared that they seemed different and good.

They are basically all the same, not identical. They may come in different ratios, salt forms, etc., but elementally the same.

So you're wrong. Apparently you're one of those kinds that can't ever admit it. I'm not on some hill or even worked up. Simply pointing things out for you.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Idc what you believe mate i know what my opinion is your welcome to disagree of course
I'm with you on this one. I think I can tell the difference too. I know it's a big debate, but we aren't the only ones who feel the same way.

I think they chemical guys just get offended, :lol::cool::bigjoint:

 

twentyeight.threefive

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I'm with you on this one. I think I can tell the difference too. I know it's a big debate, but we aren't the only ones who feel the same way.

I think they chemical guys just get offended, :lol::cool::bigjoint:

The plants can tell the difference too. They sense synthetic nutrients and refuse to use them.
 

PJ Diaz

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I'm with you on this one. I think I can tell the difference too. I know it's a big debate, but we aren't the only ones who feel the same way.

I think they chemical guys just get offended, :lol::cool::bigjoint:

2fastbuds is your reference?

This is from my textbook:
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PadawanWarrior

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2fastbuds is your reference?

This is from my textbook:
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I understand they're both using the same basic elements, but I think there's more to it than that. I've been smoking weed for 30+ years and have noticed differences in organic vs salt based nutes. Not just with weed, but also with garden veggies.

I can't fully explain why, but I believe it's true. The organic buds usually smell and tast better and are smoother. But organic growing is slower than than chemicals.

And I don't know who the hell wrote that book and if they should be trusted. There's a lot of nonsense in some books. This is probably written by your Horticulture master at your college who thinks citric acid is bad for microbes in small amounts, lol.

And that link was just the first one that popped up when I searched organic vs inorganic cannabis.
 

Billy the Mountain

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I understand they're both using the same basic elements, but I think there's more to it than that. I've been smoking weed for 30+ years and have noticed differences in organic vs salt based nutes. Not just with weed, but also with garden veggies.

I can't fully explain why, but I believe it's true. The organic buds usually smell and tast better and are smoother. But organic growing is slower than than chemicals.

And I don't know who the hell wrote that book and if they should be trusted. There's a lot of nonsense in some books. This is probably written by your Horticulture master at your college who thinks citric acid is bad for microbes in small amounts, lol.

And that link was just the first one that popped up when I searched organic vs inorganic cannabis.
Dr. Howard Resh:

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Just a bit more credible than fastbuds.com
 
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