Master growers please answer only

[xtsho]

Damn 6 pages of responses and not one master grower chimed in, that's fucked up




I kid, i kid.

I did. Post #2.

If you're harvesting with white pistils you're harvesting too early.

 

[Frank Nitty]

You need me a bunch of those lights to do anything... Save up some bread and buy a real light,PERIOD...
WHY would a Master Grower even bother talking to someone who is using cheap shit like that??? Just saying...

 

[bk78]

My next lights with a controller will cost more and have a power unit for them separated outside the tent to help keep temps down, I'm sure the watts on them will be advertised better. I will make sure to be careful still prior to purchasing thanks again for light advice!

Check in here before buying your next light. Many can help point you in the right direction

 

[PJ Diaz]

Why did they advertise 1000W in the title? So actual power is what I should be looking at. Damn light business thieves..also I read just now jack Herer is on the fluffy side for it's strain genetics so I guess i have to expect the harvest buds to not be too dense based on genes, it's out of my control.

Why? To get you to buy their crap. Apparently it worked. This is from their specs, which are a stretch IMO:

 

[PopAndSonGrows]

I did. Post #2.

Gawddamn, such a pro that they named Sativa after you. Nice work.

 

[xtsho]

Why did they advertise 1000W in the title? So actual power is what I should be looking at. Damn light business thieves..also I read just now jack Herer is on the fluffy side for it's strain genetics so I guess i have to expect the harvest buds to not be too dense based on genes, it's out of my control.

Why do some nutrient companies claim that using their products will give you 25% more yield?

Because they can and some people believe them. The FTC doesn't seem to give a damn so they lie and get away with it.

 

[cousinsmooth]

My next lights with a controller will cost more and have a power unit for them seperate outside the tent to help keep temps down

Check in here before buying your next light. Many can help point you in the right direction

Would take any suggestions now. I will remember this thread and buy it ASAP. So any light brands and models anybody has for suggestion please feel free. This is the light I was looking into. A Mega drive indoor light from this site: https://californialightworks.com/commercial/indoor/. Also if you watch the trailer for their product it seems to do the same blue light spectrum for final days of the strains to being out terpenes like I read about so I probably will go to blue light last only days even though there's not much power in these lights I still want to follow proper spectrums needed for certain.times. you can understand why I went to red only.

 

[bk78]

Would take any suggestions now. I will remember this thread and buy it ASAP. So any light brands and models anybody has for suggestion please feel free. This is the light I was looking into. A Mega drive indoor light from this site: https://californialightworks.com/commercial/indoor/

What’s the size space you’re wanting to light up? And what’s your light budget?

 

[blueberrymilkshake]

Seems like most people get viparspectra, spider farmer or mars hydro after blurple graduation

 

[cousinsmooth]

What’s the size space you’re wanting to light up? And what’s your light budget?

Just a couple tents one for veg one for bloom, hoping to graduate to an entire room probably only 1800 sq ft in the future to start out but plan on going bigger one day if I can manage to open a dispensary and get a permit. I don't mind having a high budget for lights because I can always transfer them to future grow rooms. I really want seperate rooms one day too, one for indicas and one for sativa's to help control environments for both strain types. But that's not gunna happen overnight so not worried about that now. I was told a 20 lb cylinder for CO2 is fine for a tent, what's your thoughts? I know for lights I need to now watch the μmol/J for micromoles and try to get 1.8-2.1 out of the 1000 watts, which the one I posted and currently use has the blurple pushing 2.7 ? Is that per second ? And how can that light not be a true 1000w If it's outputting more than the 1.8-2.1 micromoles that should be coming from a 1000watt. Maybe I misread something?

 

[PopAndSonGrows]

@cousinsmooth you should go back through this whole thread and take notes on what people have said. You got some solid info thrown at you.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Just a couple tents one for veg one for bloom, hoping to graduate to an entire room probably only 1800 sq ft in the future to start out but plan on going bigger one day if I can manage to open a dispensary and get a permit. I don't mind having a high budget for lights because I can always transfer them to future grow rooms. I really want seperate rooms one day too, one for indicas and one for sativa's to help control environments for both strain types. But that's not gunna happen overnight so not worried about that now. I was told a 20 lb cylinder for CO2 is fine for a tent, what's your thoughts? I know for lights I need to now watch the μmol/J for micromoles and try to get 1.8-2.1 out of the 1000 watts

Tents come anywhere in size between 2x2 and 10x20. You'll need to be more specific.

 

[cousinsmooth]

Tents come anywhere in size between 2x2 and 10x20. You'll need to be more specific.

 

[cousinsmooth]

@cousinsmooth you should go back through this whole thread and take notes on what people have said. You got some solid info thrown at you.

I've reread this thread a few times. Some stuff I agree with while others I am skeptical. If I ask the same questions it's only to get confirmation on the advice other users already replied to me as well as others different opinions besides just the previous answers I have gotten based on the same subjects and topics in this thread.

 

[PJ Diaz]

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450 to 600 actual watts is what you should be shooting for.

 

[Budzbuddha]

I just turned both on so back to purple it is. Should I put it on blue light only last few days for more terpenes? My next lights with a controller will cost more and have a power unit for them separated outside the tent to help keep temps down, I'm sure the watts on them will be advertised better. I will make sure to be careful still prior to purchasing thanks again for light advice!

Run both switches / channels on always.
Single color channels are even more underpowered by themselves.

 

[cousinsmooth]

450 to 600 actual watts is what you should be shooting for.

Run both switches / channels on always.
Single color channels are even more underpowered by themselves.

So power output is more important than the color of spectrum nanos? For my specific situation with a single low budget light, At least until I purchase one with enough sufficient power I assume then it's all about spectrums. I was thinking spectrums are more important and this light still produces enough power for me to focus on spectrum but apparently everyone is saying with my circumstance to focus on the power.

 

[PJ Diaz]

So power output is more important than the color of spectrum nanos? For my specific situation with a single low budget light, At least until I purchase one with enough sufficient power I assume then it's all about spectrums. I was thinking spectrums are more important and this light still produces enough power for me to focus on spectrum but apparently everyone is saying with my circumstance to focus on the power.

You want both, power and spectrum. Most white-light type of LEDs have a decent spectrum for growing cannabis.

 

[GODWORK]

You know what bro...lets just cut the bullshit...
You have an AA in horticulture...KUDOS...Really.

However, You dont need key zone spectrum...& thats coming from Me,,,

because I know "what" made "My" --BURPLE.--
((Before "burple" was even a fucking word.))
Just go buy a 1000W HPS an fuck the dumb shit...

Seriously, Your in a MED STATE...
No helicopters with Infrared Tech seeking HOT SPOTS
No Need for Odor Controll Fans & Old School Filters...
Those Days are OVER.

The only reason WE even ...LOOKED AT "leds" was to avoid FELONYS. #FACTS

Now... you say you want to Go Balls 2 The Wall...
Take this advice:
Get A Job At A Dispensary...OR Legal Grow...
Let Them Teach You How THEY grow weed...
You'll save a TON of Money & even Make some cash...
You'll learn how to mass produce green & You wounlt have to lose a SINGLE seedling.

 

[lusidghost]

You know what bro...lets just cut the bullshit...
You have an AA in horticulture...KUDOS...Really.

However, You dont need key zone spectrum...& thats coming from Me,,,

because I know "what" made "My" --BURPLE.--
((Before "burple" was even a fucking word.))
Just go buy a 1000W HPS an fuck the dumb shit...

Seriously, Your in a MED STATE...
No helicopters with Infrared Tech seeking HOT SPOTS
No Need for Odor Controll Fans & Old School Filters...
Those Days are OVER.

The only reason WE even ...LOOKED AT "leds" was to avoid FELONYS. #FACTS

Now... you say you want to Go Balls 2 The Wall...
Take this advice:
Get A Job At A Dispensary...OR Legal Grow...
Let Them Teach You How THEY grow weed...
You'll save a TON of Money & even Make some cash...
You'll learn how to mass produce green & You wounlt have to lose a SINGLE seedling.

Not all of us, friend. Many of us are still guerrillaing in our gorilla suits. And most of us use LEDs because they are generally as good or better than HPS at this point.