cannabineer
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That is politics. Peer review means pure science.”Newsroom” is the tell that this is op-ed.
Don't Say Gay
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I can tell you scientifically with 100% certainty that if I had swapped and played on our womens team in any sport: basketball, softball, swimming, tennis etc etc that my team would have won state finals and I'd have shattered records. Wouldn't have mattered one iota if you gave me estrogen pills or whatever they are giving kids nowadays that swap.
chronnie49
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I will see if i saved the other studies i read if the british medical journal isn't reputable enough for you. I think you will believe what you want to believe regardless of the source though.
It's already been proven men who go through puberty as a male will have bones that are more dense, longer arm reach, bigger heart and more lung capacity.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
If you can tell me scientifically, do so. As a trained scientist I can assure you that it all boils down to the quality of your supporting facts. Peer review in a SCIENTIFIC (medical is not the same territory, they train differently from us) publication is your minimal ticket of entry.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Argumentum ad verecundiam, ah the classics. Read up on the rich taxonomy of logical fallacies.
It's not a great road to go down, definitely not a hill to die on. Men are generally better at sports, that's all there is to it. What matters is that there are people wanting to compete and we should find a way for that to happen. Either compete with your birth sex, or let's get some new classes going.
chronnie49
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Its obvious you are a delusional scientist and just want to be part if the woke community which is fine. No honest biologist would suggest that men and women are equal physically after puberty.
chronnie49
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I'm all for having a trans division but there aren't enough athletes for that to be possible yet. I dontt think trans people should be excluded but men shouldnt be competing against women.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Delusional scientist! Is that like sex crime groomers? Oh boy!
Read up on the scientific method. Check with your pastor first; he might get annoyed.
As for physical differences, I think mooray is pointed in the right direction. If peer-reviewed biophysical studies show a marked and durable difference in athletic capacity between born it and made it, generate new categories that dignify rather than punish the sexually courageous.
Its not hard to understand basic concept. If you have a penis you play sports with the other people that have a penis. If you have a vagina then you play with the other people that have a vagina. Pretty simple to me and the other 99% of people out there.
chronnie49
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Pastor? What makes you think I'm religious? I never have been. I don't need jesus in my life to know men are typically stronger than woman after puberty. Before puberty its actually fairly equal but these athlete's are transitioning afterwards in every case that i have seen.
I'm all for having a separate category but there's not enough athletes yet.
What is a marked and durable difference? Can you please explain?
chronnie49
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I agree but cannabineer doesnt.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
If you are not religious, you are in the Noble belt and just never noticed the basic hatefulness of militant evangelicals. It’s a thing, and some of your ideas resonate with their gospel of hate and renunciation. You may wish to check your premises.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I do agree. But I rate a made vagina as equal in rights and dignity to a grown one.
injinji
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I find it interesting that the cells that make up the sex organs are the same. That is why they are able to cobble together the necessary equipment from their existing equipment.
Thats because people grow up advocating and pushing for an agenda. People like that typically do not think rationally vs emotionally. Its how people get triggered during conversations and debates and they cant finish the debate or conversation because they are too teed off.
I do not. Its a choice, not a right. You don't get to make a choice and then tell others they have to acknowledge what you did as correct because it makes you feel better. Thats not how society works, but its how a lot of trans are acting.
chronnie49
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Lia Thomas doesn't have a vagina so should she be allowed to compete with other people that do?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
As a delusional scientist, I find beauty there.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Once the choice is made, the right naturally ensues. All else is bigotry on the premise “human but not really”.
“That’s not how society works/ how things are” is heavily correlated with the worst racism in the US. Nice.