Political memes ONLY.. To prove your political points.

hanimmal

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange advised whistleblower Edward Snowden to try to seek political asylum in Russia or South America as Russia confirmed that if Snowden made an asylum request it would be considered.

"The spokesman of Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that if Snowden applied for asylum, Russia would consider his case.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the ITAR-TASS news agency early today while on a trip to Brazil that he had not heard of any asylum request from Snowden but that "if a request is submitted, we will examine it."

"I think he would be well advised to consider that offer. He would be considered to try to find a similar offer in South America," Assange told RT television

Fair enough to but he should of gone to South America. Much better weather and he wouldn't be in a cell like the women you posted above.

So advising someone to do something is smuggling? Even if it was through an interview with somebody else?

Hero is a word the youth of today use far to flippantly. Julian isn't a hero as far as i'm aware.

So you think he should of hid the fact and got Trumps pardon? Makes sense for Julian but not for your usual Political angle. He didn't (good on him to!) and Trumps no longer president. Good chance he will be again in a couple years though..

Julian isn't an American citizen so he isn't being treasonous by releasing the info he got of America's dirty secrets. America doesn't like whistle blowers though and has bullied and pressured countries to have him extradited. Even had made up charges brought against him in Sweden which were ultimately dropped.

I really didn't think you would be against whistleblowers or Free press. Your definitely a conservative. If only America had of just accepted what it did when the info got out and didn't seek to punish the whistleblowers who wanted the voting public, the American citizens to know what was really going on. Snowden wouldn't be in Russia (im sure he doesn't want to be) Julian wouldn't be in gaol, the lady above would not be in gaol and we wouldn't have this assault on Free press. Lots of wins for everybody, not least the American people.







Free press is democracy at work. Shame your not a fan.
Quoting RT, Lavrov, and Assange.

lmao man, can you be a bigger cuck for Russia?
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Assange weaponized stolen information with the help of the Russian military to attack our democracy. No amount of your propaganda is going to change those facts.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Wikileaks is not 'press', RT is not 'Press', nor are all the other 'media' trolls that are cat fishing as 'Press'.

And now that they are found out, they are trying to use it as a wedge issue to attack the entity that dictators (as demonstrated perfectly with Putin's complete alternate reality he is trying to build in Russia about his invasion into Ukraine slaughtering their citizens and blaming them for it) hate the most, the Free Press.

It is not 'journalism' that Wikileaks had been doing with the help of the Russian military, it was an attack on our democracy.

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And then Assange/Wikileaks and the Russian military used this in coordination with the Trump campaign to attack the 2016 election.

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Lucky Luke

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Wikileaks is not 'press', RT is not 'Press', nor are all the other 'media' trolls that are cat fishing as 'Press'.

And now that they are found out, they are trying to use it as a wedge issue to attack the entity that dictators (as demonstrated perfectly with Putin's complete alternate reality he is trying to build in Russia about his invasion into Ukraine slaughtering their citizens and blaming them for it) hate the most, the Free Press.

It is not 'journalism' that Wikileaks had been doing with the help of the Russian military, it was an attack on our democracy.

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And then Assange/Wikileaks and the Russian military used this in coordination with the Trump campaign to attack the 2016 election.

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Ukraine? Come on this is years and years ago.

Well yes, you allege he smuggled snowden out of America when Assange didn't. It's a published quote.


WikiLeaks (/ˈwɪkiliːks/) is an international non-profit organisation that publishes news leaks and classified media provided by anonymous sources. Its website, initiated in 2006 in Iceland by the organisation Sunshine Press, stated in 2015 that it had released online 10 million documents in its first 10 years

Its why the worlds press has been saying

Shame your not fan of free press.
 
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Lucky Luke

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Yuri's story is pretty amazing.

Russian authorities released a statement that he had gone to space and landed successfully and he was still in space. His parents only found out he was an astronaut when they heard the media release. He landed in a field, scaring the people there and i think from memory he had to get a lift on a horse and cart into the nearest town to ph the relevant authorities to come pick him up as they had no idea where he had landed.
 

hanimmal

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Ukraine? Come on this is years and years ago.

Well yes, you allege he smuggled snowden out of America when Assange didn't. It's a published quote.


WikiLeaks (/ˈwɪkiliːks/) is an international non-profit organisation that publishes news leaks and classified media provided by anonymous sources. Its website, initiated in 2006 in Iceland by the organisation Sunshine Press, stated in 2015 that it had released online 10 million documents in its first 10 years

Its why the worlds press has been saying

Shame your not fan of free press.
You mean like when Assange lied and manufactured a conspiracy theory about Seth Rich?
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The special counsel’s report confirmed this week that Seth Rich, a young Democratic National Committee employee whose unsolved killing became grist for a right-wing conspiracy theory, was not the source of thousands of internal D.N.C. emails that WikiLeaks released during the 2016 presidential race, officially debunking a notion that had persisted without support for years.

Tucked amid hundreds of pages of the report’s main findings, the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, took aim at WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange, for falsely implying that Mr. Rich was somehow involved in the dissemination of the emails, an act that aided President Trump’s campaign.

“WikiLeaks and Assange made several public statements apparently designed to obscure the source of the materials that WikiLeaks was releasing,” according to the report, which showed that WikiLeaks corresponded with the true source of the leaked emails — Russian hackers — after Mr. Rich’s death.

The confirmation comes after years of anguish for Mr. Rich’s family, who fought attempts to politicize and spread misinformation about his killing, which is believed to have happened during a bungled robbery attempt.

The theory linking Mr. Rich to the email leak took root in conservative circles and was cited by prominent conservatives like Newt Gingrich and right-wing commentators like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Alex Jones of Infowars. WikiLeaks offered a $20,000 reward for information about Mr. Rich’s killing, fueling speculation that he was the source. Fox News also published an article, which the network later retracted, suggesting that Mr. Rich was killed in retaliation for having leaked the emails.

In a statement, Mr. Rich’s brother, Aaron Rich, responded to the special counsel’s report, saying it provided “hard facts that demonstrate this conspiracy is false.”

“I hope that the people who pushed, fueled, spread, ran headlines, articles, interviews, talk and opinion shows, or in any way used my family’s tragedy to advance their political agendas — despite our pleas that what they were saying was not based on any facts — will take responsibility for the unimaginable pain they have caused us,” he said.

Mr. Rich was 27 when he died after being shot on the streets of Washington on July 10, 2016.

On July 14, WikiLeaks received an encrypted file from Russian hackers, according to the report. The organization published thousands of internal D.N.C. emails later that month, just days ahead of the Democratic convention.

“That chronology is damning,” Mike Gottlieb, a lawyer for Aaron Rich, said, pointing out that Mr. Rich had already been killed when the file was sent.
In statements beginning that summer, Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks “implied falsely” that Mr. Rich had been the source of the emails, the special counsel’s report said.

Julian Assange arriving at court in London. He was arrested this month on charges unrelated to to WikiLeaks’ role in Russia’s operations to sabotage the 2016 presidential election.Victoria Jones/Press Association, via Associated Press

In addition to the $20,000 reward, Mr. Assange said in an interview that he was interested in Mr. Rich’s death because “we’re very interested in anything that might be a threat to alleged WikiLeaks sources,” according to the report.

Even after intelligence officials announced that Russia was behind the email hacking, Mr. Assange continued to deny Russian involvement and told a congressman that the D.N.C. hack was an “inside job,” according to the report.

“Assange did untold damage to a grieving family in order to try and hide his work with Russian intelligence,” Brad Bauman, a former spokesman for Mr. Rich’s family, said in a statement after the release of the report.

“He is a monster, not a journalist,” he added.

Mr. Assange, whose release of secret government documents has spurred debate about press freedom issues, spent seven years holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy in Britain before he was arrested this month on a charge of conspiring to hack into a Pentagon computer network in 2010. The charge is not related to WikiLeaks’ role in Russia’s operations to sabotage the election.

Though Mr. Rich’s killing remains unsolved, the special counsel’s findings could begin to ease the pain for his family, who have described the anguish of having to watch his life and death be treated like a “political football.”

His parents, Joel and Mary Rich, sued Fox News last year, claiming that the network’s coverage helped fuel damaging rumors about their son. A judge, while expressing sympathy for the family, dismissed the case because the parents had not been personally defamed by the story, despite the fact that it included “false statements or misrepresentations.” The judge noted that Mr. Rich could not be defamed by the story under New York law because he was dead.

Aaron Rich is also suing for defamation over theories that falsely implicate him, purporting that he helped steal the data and cover up his brother’s killing. He accepted an apology and retraction from The Washington Times last year as part of a settlement.

Mr. Gottlieb, his lawyer, said that while it was gratifying for his client to see the Mueller report lay to rest any lingering conspiracy theories, Mr. Rich was still grappling with the loss of his brother, who was the best man at his wedding.

“The picture of Seth and Aaron at Aaron’s wedding is one a bunch of conspiracy theorists have used as memes,” he said.

“Aaron has been called a traitor,” Mr. Gottlieb added. “He is being called every imaginable awful name you can think of and he’s never had the opportunity to grieve.”

In his statement, Aaron Rich vowed to continue fighting.

“We will continue to pursue justice for Seth’s murderers,” he said, “as well as those who used his murder to advance their personal or political agendas.”

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Assange is a propagandist that worked with the Russian military to attack our elections. He is not a journalist.
 

Grandpapy

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Ukraine? Come on this is years and years ago.

Well yes, you allege he smuggled snowden out of America when Assange didn't. It's a published quote.


WikiLeaks (/ˈwɪkiliːks/) is an international non-profit organisation that publishes news leaks and classified media provided by anonymous sources. Its website, initiated in 2006 in Iceland by the organisation Sunshine Press, stated in 2015 that it had released online 10 million documents in its first 10 years

Its why the worlds press has been saying

Shame your not fan of free press.
How does the RAF or RAN feel about secrets being distributed?
 

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
Assange is a propagandist that worked with the Russian military to attack our elections. He is not a journalist.
the charges came after the WikiLeaks founder exposed alleged war crimes committed during the Iraq invasion. In one of the most notorious videos published by WikiLeaks in its 2010 document dump, U.S. Apache attack helicopters can be seen indiscriminately firing at a crowd in Baghdad and killing several civilians, including two Reuters news staff.

I wasn't aware Trump ran for office in 2010...
 
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Lucky Luke

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How does the RAF or RAN feel about secrets being distributed?
No doubt that whistleblowers in all countries are ganged up on and made to pay. But some secrets like war crimes should be known by the people electing the officials and paying the ones committing them.
Julian didn't initially leak anything, he just published what in this case American citizens had a right to know and what people like Snowden thought they should.
The gov then got embarrassed so went after the people they could. America committed war crimes- Americans have a right to know do they not?
 

hanimmal

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the charges came after the WikiLeaks founder exposed alleged war crimes committed during the Iraq invasion. In one of the most notorious videos published by WikiLeaks in its 2010 document dump, U.S. Apache attack helicopters can be seen indiscriminately firing at a crowd in Baghdad and killing several civilians, including two Reuters news staff.
So ignore his attack on our democracy because you want to cherry pick the timeframe of the attack to before it was investigated?

Seems pretty silly to me to assume he wasn't working with the Russian military back then too.

You ignored it last time, but maybe it would be better for you to try to shit on America if you actually picked actual injustices instead of ones that the dictators paying the propagandists to attack the worlds democracies amplify.

Again, here is Reality Winner, who was jailed for leaking actual information to the press (even though it was only about the attack taking place on us, and making sure that there was not a way for it to damage our sources). She stepped up and did her time, but it still is ridiculous.

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No doubt that whistleblowers in all countries are ganged up on and made to pay. But some secrets like war crimes should be known by the people electing the officials and paying the ones committing them.
Julian didn't initially leak anything, he just published what in this case American citizens had a right to know and what people like Snowden thought they should.
Assange received information from the Russian military and weaponized it against our democracy. Pretending otherwise is bullshit. And we still don't know more than about 10% of what Snowden smuggled out of the NSA, but the Russian military does, because Assange smuggled him to Putin.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No doubt that whistleblowers in all countries are ganged up on and made to pay. But some secrets like war crimes should be known by the people electing the officials and paying the ones committing them.
Julian didn't initially leak anything, he just published what in this case American citizens had a right to know and what people like Snowden thought they should.
The gov then got embarrassed so went after the people they could. America committed war crimes- Americans have a right to know do they not?
No.
 

Lucky Luke

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So ignore his attack on our democracy because you want to cherry pick the timeframe of the attack to before it was investigated?

Seems pretty silly to me to assume he wasn't working with the Russian military back then too.

You ignored it last time, but maybe it would be better for you to try to shit on America if you actually picked actual injustices instead of ones that the dictators paying the propagandists to attack the worlds democracies amplify.

Again, here is Reality Winner, who was jailed for leaking actual information to the press (even though it was only about the attack taking place on us, and making sure that there was not a way for it to damage our sources). She stepped up and did her time, but it still is ridiculous.

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Assange received information from the Russian military and weaponized it against our democracy. Pretending otherwise is bullshit. And we still don't know more than about 10% of what Snowden smuggled out of the NSA, but the Russian military does, because Assange smuggled him to Putin.
in 2010 Trump wasn't even running for office. he isn't as far as i'm aware been charged for anything in regard to Trumps election win. He is being charged for making known Americans war crimes that was leaked to wiki.

Shame your not a fan of Free speach.
 

Lucky Luke

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WikiLeaks founder and IFJ press card holder was charged in the United States under the Espionage Act for WikiLeaks' 2010 publications of classified documents, notably on the US crimes during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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IFJ International Press Card (IPC)
https://www.ifj.org › press-card

An instantly and internationally recognisable professional identification. The International Press Card (IPC) is recognised the world over.
 

hanimmal

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in 2010 Trump wasn't even running for office. he isn't as far as i'm aware been charged for anything in regard to Trumps election win. He is being charged for making known Americans war crimes that was leaked to wiki.

Shame your not a fan of Free speach.
You keep telling me how I feel (incorrectly) about stuff like a typical right wing troll.

Russia's attack on our democracy has not always been about Trump.

Sadly true by Hannibal's and Americans attack on Julian.

Its hard enough for whistleblowers to come forward, the culture of punishing those who do is horrific.
There is a difference between whistle blowers and propagandists making up shit for the Russian military's attack on democracy.

I am all for whistle blowers trying to do the right thing.

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WikiLeaks founder and IFJ press card holder was charged in the United States under the Espionage Act for WikiLeaks' 2010 publications of classified documents, notably on the US crimes during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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lmao so does she.

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