Defoliation Trial - 4 Clones

[Haitham600]

You can go to harvest with green leafs. Yellow is just a sign or too little or too much.

We learn

 

[amneziaHaze]

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Good thinking, simulated wind to blow off the dead leaves. ILL leave the yellows though.

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yea for the experiment leave it all just check on it for mold i guess. i keep thinking about this as a grow and not an experiment.

 

[DoobieDoobs]

I thought leaves dying on the bottom of the plant meant that the plant was moving around her nutrients to more useful branches, or something like that.

 

[amneziaHaze]

I thought leaves dying on the bottom of the plant meant that the plant was moving around her nutrients to more useful branches, or something like that.

that is true. but only because there is not enough nutriends around the roots. maybe its too dry maybe you didnt water with nutrients enough

 

[DoobieDoobs]

By the way, I have my bets on the lollipoped only plant.

edit: how much will you defoliate? like a few leaves for air and light penetration, or strip them naked?

 

[amneziaHaze]

I think non stripped will give the most but pain in the ass to trim the tiny lower buds

 

[Haitham600]

I did a small research on the AirROS you have, and I think it is harming the plants. You should turn it on no more than 2 hrs a day, preferably at night time.

 

[Hobbes]

I did a small research on the AirROS you have, and I think it is harming the plants. You should turn it on no more than 2 hrs a day, preferably at night time.

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Thanks HaItham, I turned the AR down to 15% from 75% power. High power on the AR was definitely harming the leaves.

Probably less time per day might help too.

Thanks

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[Hobbes]

By the way, I have my bets on the lollipoped only plant.

edit: how much will you defoliate? like a few leaves for air and light penetration, or strip them naked?

The lollipoped plant was only defoliated to the sucker leaf level. I'm stripping them of leaves as much as possible, but there were many baby leaves with few pistole.

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The to non-defoliated plants are the two tallest of the 4 clones.

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[Haitham600]

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Thanks HaItham, I turned the AR down to 15% from 75% power. High power on the AR was definitely harming the leaves.

Probably less time per day might help too.

Thanks

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It generates lots of oxygen reactive ions which not only kills germs by killing DNA also can hurt the plants DNA as well as humans. 1 or 2 hrs aday should be enough for killing the germs and fungi. Put it on a timer. Plus the size of that thing is suitable for large growing area, for a tent it is over kill. During day, your plants need co2, oxygen at night.

 

[Hobbes]

Put it on a timer. Plus the size of that thing is suitable for large growing area, for a tent it is over kill.

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Never thought of a timer, thanks!

This is the smallest unit they had, good for several thousand cubic feet, where my tent is only 100 cubic feet.

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[Hobbes]

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The two swaazeed plants are staying a couple of inches shorter than their counter parts.

The two natural plants as well as being taller the colas are a little thicker.

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The plant in the front left is the 2 x defoliated plant and in the front right the plant that hasn't been touched.

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I think the two swazzeed plants will come out with the higher weight,, but I don't know if the difference will be enough to have definitive results.

How much more should a plant weigh to make that style of growing the winner?

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[PJ Diaz]

If you can't keep the leaves green, how do you expect to have any comparative results?

 

[DoobieDoobs]

If you can't keep the leaves green, how do you expect to have any comparative results?

hey, if they all have a similar amount of yellow, the test stands!

 

[Star Dog]

All being equal I'll accept the results.

 

[Star Dog]

How much more should a plant weigh to make that style of growing the winner?

I would say whichever has the best weight of quality buds, gross weight isn't much use if 40% is larf.

I'd like to see how much the humidity changes after defoliating a full grow room/tent that would be helpful and could make the difference to me.

 

[Hobbes]

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I haven't been keeping up with posting so I've got a couple pics a few weeks into flower and some about a week from harvest:



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The plant on front right is the control plant - no defoliation; the plant on the rear left is only lollipopped; The rear right defoliated once and the front left defoliated twice.

The non defoliated plants grew 2 or 3" taller than the defoliated clones.



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A lot of crisp leaves but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have a bigger harvest than last grow - 400 grams. The only differences between my first grow of Serious Happiness with this second grow of clones is the new Scorpion Diablo light over my old Black Dog lamp.



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[DoubleAtotheRON]

Great thread man!... I love experiments.

 

[Hobbes]

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This is the control plant, no defoliation.



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Unfortunately the dense foliage blocked the light from the lower branches. Just sticks.



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A full 12" tray from plant 1, lots of larf 6" into the canopy.



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Plant 2, lollipop only.



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About the same harvest as the first plant.



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Plant 3, 1 defoliation. lollipop



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The harvest was more dense than the previous 2, may weigh a bit more.



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[Hobbes]

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Plant 4 was defoliated twice, once on day 1 of flower and once on day 20.



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I'm still clipping plant 4, I'll be ready to dry it tomorrow.



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Another week and the buds will be dry enough (62% RH) to weigh.

Weighing will be the ultimate test but I have some observations from triming the past few days. Although all three plants have a similar volume, the bud from the defoliated plants is denser.

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