Anyone know what’s going on??

king_Moby

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Wassup fellow growers hope all is well my friends. I have a quick question and i would really really appreciate the help! first time growing and everything have has been going good until now, 3rd week of veg, this has popped up on both my plants and i have them in small hydro reservoirs so not expecting much just wanted to experiment on my first grow to get sum experience so that’s why. i’ve been keeping the ph maintained in a range from 5.7-5.9 check it every 2-3 days one is a dwc setup other is a kratky. been using house and garden nutes A and B with additives to the dwc plant which is a moby dick strain, other strain is unknown indica or hybrid and only running base nutes on it. haven’t used any cal mag at all. also have a chewed leaf or two on the unknown strain but already checked for bugs and found none. first 4 pics are the unknown strain, and pics 5 and 6 are when the problem started and last pics are my moby strain and the leaves that were effected. yellow tips on more than a few on my moby and brown tips on a couple tips on the other strain probably around 2-5. Thanks again guys would love to hear some feedback you guys. have a great day and happy growing!
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king_Moby

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dumb question, new grower sorry, does that mean like if i’m running a drain to waste system? if yes no not really but i’m changing the water every 4 days because my containers are small so can’t really run that type of system but if that’s not what you mean sorry could you explain?
 

Hiphophippo

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Sorry bud I reread your post and seen your doing dwc I don’t know anything about that growing method I didn’t want to give you bad or wrong advice
 

go go kid

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dwc, you want to check the ph at the same time every day, as ph will fluctuate during the day, so 9 in the am, check ph, (hope you have a good pen and not a cheap ass one, ) it makes a bid differance.
kratky can be left without checking ph from what ive read. what nutes are you running in the kratky pot? and wht nutes are you running in the DWC? as some nutes are self PH regulating
 

go go kid

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should have aded, i tried the dwc and did no ph correctins and changed the nutes out every week. no problems with ph, but it was a costly exercise
 

king_Moby

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Sorry bud I reread your post and seen your doing dwc I don’t know anything about that growing method I didn’t want to give you bad or wrong advice
Hey Nah no worries dude just hearing from you is better than nothing if i’m being honest thanks though i really appreciate it! sorry for the late reply too i thought no one was gonna get back to me on here.
 

king_Moby

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dwc, you want to check the ph at the same time every day, as ph will fluctuate during the day, so 9 in the am, check ph, (hope you have a good pen and not a cheap ass one, ) it makes a bid differance.
kratky can be left without checking ph from what ive read. what nutes are you running in the kratky pot? and wht nutes are you running in the DWC? as some nutes are self PH regulating
also again sorry for the late reply!! as i mentioned in my last response didn’t think anyone was going to respond lol. and ohhhh damn so every three days isn’t going to cut it because yea i did hear that dwc’s PH seems to fluctuate more than kratkys because of the water pump. yea i have two good ones and a cheap one just to test which one worked best. As for the nutes on the kratky i’m just running base nutes from house and garden A and B with some added “nitrogen boost” from the same company roots are amazing on that plant but for the dwc i’m running same base nutrients with additives including the following: drip clean, amino treatment, root excel, and nitrogen boost. which about sums it up but the roots on that one aren’t asssss big but decent size and length. just wanted to test out the difference so went with two different methods of growing and nutrient supply. also forgot to add that i’ve been following the house and garden app which gives recommendations on how much nutes i should supply during the plants stages but where i think i went wrong was following them to the tee because i found out recently it’s recommended to just use 3/4 of the manufactures recommended doses. but found it weird as i’m on the last week or second to last of veg and that’s when i ran into problems sadly. like i said before too haven’t used any cal mag so it could be that but i do doubt it.
 

king_Moby

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should have aded, i tried the dwc and did no ph correctins and changed the nutes out every week. no problems with ph, but it was a costly exercise
oh yea bro it’s a whole longgg a** process man takes a decent time outta ya especially if you mess up on doses by accident, but i just thought as a first time growing id run into more problems with soil than with hydro.
 

king_Moby

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also quick question to both of you guys does this look like clawing to you which could indicate nitrogen toxicity but there’s no change in color to the leaves besides those pigments i first posted, this is in my moby dick strain other strain showed no signs of this except for those burns on the leaves in the first pics also it’s the plant running only base nutes.
 

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Melquides

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your munchy leaves could be thrip damage. Do you see any fliers around? they Could still be on the leaves, they are a tricky bunch and tiny . Visible to the naked eye, look for little yellow/green larvae. very small. fliers will be smaller than fungus gnats.
 

king_Moby

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your munchy leaves could be thrip damage. Do you see any fliers around? they Could still be on the leaves, they are a tricky bunch and tiny . Visible to the naked eye, look for little yellow/green larvae. very small. fliers will be smaller than fungus gnats.
oh crap i’ve checked for spider mites, whiteflies and aphids but f*** i forgot about thrips as a new grower i did read about them and how small they are. damn i’ll double check again once my plants finish the flush cycle because i ended up flushing them hoping it was just nute burn. as i checked though i did not see any fliers but i’ll make sure again. do they spread fast from leaf to leaf by the way?? Also thanks for your feedback man i really appreciate it!! but hopefully it’s not a pest problem as i havent let anyone in my room since they were seedlings, lol not even my four legged child as she tends to get dirt in and on her paws from time to time. Thanks again!
 

Melquides

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well, my camera is not good enough to get a pic of the little buggers. larvae are smaller than ants. it will look like a small yellow/green dot on the leaf. maybe top or bottom, they get bigger, darker, then fly.
 

weedstoner420

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I have zero experience with dwc or kratky but this chart might be helpful if you have an ec/ppm reading thingy...

Never seen a successful cannabis grow using kratky. Have seen some that look like crap and some that looked okay in veg but then the grower never posted anything from the flowering stage...

GL!

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king_Moby

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1/4-1/2 Strength nutes unless ur trying to grow a tree. (Mix in correct order most people screw this up.) Neem Oil, Peppermint hemp Castile soap, warm water.
Not really tryin to type all kinds of info up just look up my grows on here. I’ve been running Hydro systems over 10 years started with DWC way better people out there tho fr. Watch go try to read fat mans guides and in a year or 2 try again.
question, did you mean i should mix in 1/2 strength nutes of the recommended doses from the manufacture? Also thanks bro i’ll make sure to check out fat mans guides so i can prep for next fall/winter really appreciate the help!
 

king_Moby

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I have zero experience with dwc or kratky but this chart might be helpful if you have an ec/ppm reading thingy...

Never seen a successful cannabis grow using kratky. Have seen some that look like crap and some that looked okay in veg but then the grower never posted anything from the flowering stage...

GL!

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this’ll help out a lot bro thanks ppm usually gets me confused all i know is if your ppm is higher than it was when you gave it fresh nutes basically salt buildup or something of the sort the like plant isn’t taking up the nutes because of excess or something like that and if it goes down then we’re all good i really appreciate that man! you all been helpful.
 

king_Moby

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Update: i haven’t spotted any thrips or eggs on the leaves triple and quadruple checked every single leaf but i’m still on the lookout so far with the flush unknown strain seems to have been revived as to the moby strain still iffy some new leaves don’t show signs of tip burn anymore but very few still kinda have it. i appreciate everyone’s help and their input really helped me look at this from different perspectives.
 
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