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Driver733

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Hes feeding a tsp 7-4-10 grow nutrient
A fan cause claw too
I’ll argue that. No dark green, no blanched tips. Fade down low. Looks more like a fan blows on it.
I think the fan may be the problem. I have a small oscillating fan on the floor of the tent that I have not used before, just started using it. I did not know a rotating fan on low can cause issues like this, I just shut it off. We'll see what happens.

Thank you very much, I hope this helps.
 

toomp

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I think the fan may be the problem. I have a small oscillating fan on the floor of the tent that I have not used before, just started using it. I did not know a rotating fan on low can cause issues like this, I just shut it off. We'll see what happens.

Thank you very much, I hope this helps.
A small oscillating fan on low on the floor will not do that.
That wont be your issue I was just letting him know that hes correct a fan can cause the claw but thats not your situation
He thinks you underfeeding, I think you over fed
either way you go to fix if your wrong your in trouble
 

Driver733

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A small oscillating fan on the floor will not do that.
I guess we'll find out soon enough, it makes sense to me as the issues started around the time I started using the fan. Not sure what else could be the problem. The new growth is nice and green, it's the lower leaves that fade and die. Thank you.
 

toomp

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I guess we'll find out soon enough, it makes sense to me as the issues started around the time I started using the fan. Not sure what else could be the problem. The new growth is nice and green, it's the lower leaves that fade and die. Thank you.
Everybody that has a grow has a fan. Everyone that has a grow outdoors has wind.
You are correlating the fact that the fan is on the floor and the lower leaves are closest to the floor and putting that together, when in reality its simply the fact that Mobile nutrients like N effect the older leaves 1st which are your lowest leaves.
Immobile nutrients affect new growth and I see you are hopeful that new growth looks fine however none of us have stated you had an issue with an immobile or slower mobile element.
N is your issue
 

Driver733

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Everybody that has a grow has a fan. Everyone that has a grow outdoors has wind.
You are correlating the fact that the fan is on the floor and the lower leaves are closest to the floor and putting that together, when in reality its simply the fact that Mobile nutrients like N effect the older leaves 1st which are your lowest leaves.
Immobile nutrients affect new growth and I see you are hopeful that new growth looks fine however none of us have stated you had an issue with an immobile or slower mobile element.
N is your issue
Hold on a minute, you mentioned the fan, not me. I am correlating the fact that I did not use a floor fan before these issues. I never correlated the lower fan leaves being yellow and the use of the fan on the floor, they are simply the symptoms I am seeing. I understand mobile vs. immobile nutrients, and it looks like a lack of N to me as well, but how could that be with 7-4-10 fertilizer?
 

Driver733

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Everybody that has a grow has a fan. Everyone that has a grow outdoors has wind.
You are correlating the fact that the fan is on the floor and the lower leaves are closest to the floor and putting that together, when in reality its simply the fact that Mobile nutrients like N effect the older leaves 1st which are your lowest leaves.
Immobile nutrients affect new growth and I see you are hopeful that new growth looks fine however none of us have stated you had an issue with an immobile or slower mobile element.
N is your issue
Looking at this article: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/wind-burn
Wind-burned leaves are often curved under and form “claws.” They can look like they’re droopy from overwatering, underwatering, or possible a nitrogen toxicity, but you know you’ve got wind-burn when the leaves in front of the fan are clawing, and leaves further away from the fan look fine....Sometimes too high levels of wind can cause other unusual problems on the affected leaves, such as brown or bronze spots that almost look like burn marks. These are the result of the leaf not being able to fulfill all its normal processes.
These are my issues. Thanks for your help!
 

Driver733

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bee almost week, how did removing the fan do? pics?
The fan seemed to help the wilting but it may just be a coincidence. Unfortunately, the roots continued to suffer and after a month still have not filled out the quart size pot. The plant did recover and keep growing but very slowly, and still showing the deficiencies on the lower leaves. I upped my fertilizer to 3 tsp per gallon and got the nitrogen claw on the upper leaves, but it did not stop the lower leaves from yellowing and shriveling.

In the past, the plants never spend more than two weeks in that size pot before the root ball is fully formed and they are ready to transplant. These roots have barely reached the outside of the pot and the dirt is still falling out of the root ball when you pull it from the pot.

I don't have pictures because I gave them all away yesterday to a friend who may try replanting in fresh soil without myckos and see if they recover well enough to go outside, I live in Vermont and we've still got two months before we can plant outside. I think the plants will recover with enough time, I just can't do it right now, I have scoliosis and I am probably looking at major surgery in the next month or two.

I'm sorry I don't have pictures, it hurts to move and I just couldn't do it.

I will try the mykos again when I start growing again, but on just one plant at a time so I can gauge the difference compared to plants without mykos.

I do really appreciate your help, and thank you for checking back with me.
 

toomp

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The fan seemed to help the wilting but it may just be a coincidence. Unfortunately, the roots continued to suffer and after a month still have not filled out the quart size pot. The plant did recover and keep growing but very slowly, and still showing the deficiencies on the lower leaves. I upped my fertilizer to 3 tsp per gallon and got the nitrogen claw on the upper leaves, but it did not stop the lower leaves from yellowing and shriveling.

In the past, the plants never spend more than two weeks in that size pot before the root ball is fully formed and they are ready to transplant. These roots have barely reached the outside of the pot and the dirt is still falling out of the root ball when you pull it from the pot.

I don't have pictures because I gave them all away yesterday to a friend who may try replanting in fresh soil without myckos and see if they recover well enough to go outside, I live in Vermont and we've still got two months before we can plant outside. I think the plants will recover with enough time, I just can't do it right now, I have scoliosis and I am probably looking at major surgery in the next month or two.

I'm sorry I don't have pictures, it hurts to move and I just couldn't do it.

I will try the mykos again when I start growing again, but on just one plant at a time so I can gauge the difference compared to plants without mykos.

I do really appreciate your help, and thank you for checking back with me.
I told you that little fan wasnt going to cause wind burn. I think you fed too much N.
If you know homebrewer when he used mykos he had to feed less. Same clone same setup same medium less feed the thread is around its about 3000 pages j/k
 

Driver733

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I told you that little fan wasnt going to cause wind burn. I think you fed too much N.
If you know homebrewer when he used mykos he had to feed less. Same clone same setup same medium less feed the thread is around its about 3000 pages j/k
You have no idea what is wrong. I tried plain water, lite nutes, heavy nutes, nothing helped.

Needless to say, I thought you were helpful. I was wrong.
 
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toomp

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You have no idea what is wrong. I tried plain water, lite nutes, heavy nutes, nothing helped.

Needless to say, I thought you were helpful. I was wrong.
no YOU had no idea what was wrong.
your plants thought you were helpful too, they were wrong


The fan is your issue though right? lol
 

toomp

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Yohimbe2

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Padawan with the jokes :clap:

I've seen a lot of jerks on weed forums but you have to be the worst I've ever seen. My bet is that you were beaten up on a regular basis in school. Hell, I'd like to slap you around a bit.

Just because you've never been laid, you don't have to take it out on everyone. I'm sorry you got bullied in school, that's never fun. Is this some weird way of getting revenge on everyone else because of your failed life?

You are an ass.
 
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