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SickboyDilligaf

SickboyDilligaf

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Big Sparks

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SickboyDilligaf said:
Is this being flushed. You left allot of fan leaves on. Most my big leaves are defoliated by this time but She’s a Sexy beast.
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Flushed? No, i dont ever flush. I run in living organic soil "Coot-style." As for the leaves, she had a sort of early fade and appeared hungry from early in flower. So I just left her as is. This was also my first run with her from seed so the first time around I usually just let them grow all natural, and pretty much untouched from start to finish to see how they turn out. The most i usually do is some topping and LST and hand pick a few leaves here and there that may be blocking other tops and/or budsites.
Then ill run her clones for a second and third time trying different sized pots, training styles, ect., ect. , until i decide if im going to keep her around for any longer. If the smoke isnt "great" then i give away any remaining clones to a few close friends who grow outdoors. Once you do this for awhile, unfortunately we sometimes become weed snobs! Lol! Or at least i have. Been doing this for long enough to know what i like and what I want and expect out of my strains. Ive got too many seeds in the vault to try out for me to waste time on something that i dont really care for. I just dont have the room to keep them all, or the time. But maybe one day, ya know.
 
bobrown14

bobrown14

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SickboyDilligaf said:
Is this being flushed. You left allot of fan leaves on. Most my big leaves are defoliated by this time but She’s a Sexy beast.
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You left out the cal/mag bro! :D:-D:leaf:
Living soil we keep using it over and over and let the microbes feed the plants. Most all of the nutrients in the soil are not in soluble form, so if the plant doesn't require them and the plant does the communication thru plant root exudate, those un-used nutrients are still there for the next plants.

The way the plant gets root exudate into the root zone is thru Photosynthesis in the fan leaves. The excess sugars and carbs are translocated down to the root zone. Without fan leaves that translocation of nutrients is non-existent.

Then once the microbes break down those soil nutrients they need to be brought up thru the stalks and stems along with water via transpiration. Thats done with thru the stomata in the fan leaves.

I could go on and on about the functions of fan leaves but hopefully you're getting the idea they are good for plants and specially flowers.

Flowers do very little photosynthesis. Most flowers dont do any. So where is the food source?
 
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Big Sparks

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bobrown14 said:
You left out the cal/mag bro! :D:-D:leaf:
Living soil we keep using it over and over and let the microbes feed the plants. Most all of the nutrients in the soil are not in soluble form, so if the plant doesn't require them and the plant does the communication thru plant root exudate, those un-used nutrients are still there for the next plants.

The way the plant gets root exudate into the root zone is thru Photosynthesis in the fan leaves. The excess sugars and carbs are translocated down to the root zone. Without fan leaves that translocation of nutrients is non-existent.

Then once the microbes break down those soil nutrients they need to be brought up thru the stalks and stems along with water via transpiration. Thats done with thru the stomata in the fan leaves.

I could go on and on about the functions of fan leaves but hopefully you're getting the idea they are good for plants and specially flowers.

Flowers do very little photosynthesis. Most flowers dont do any. So where is the food source?
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Very well said brother Bob! I never could have said that any better than you just did. Ive just learned through trial and error over the years. I hear people say that you need to defol all your leaves for bigger budz. But ive plyed/practiced on plants in the past in veg and flower and seem to get better results when leaving most of the leaves on. In veg, if I clip the fan leaf off of one side and not the other, the side the leaf still on it will grow out a chute must faster than the other. The side without a leaf will sometimes not even be able to function and just stall out. But not always.
And as my plants begin flower, i do hand pick any light blocking leaves, especially on my short squat indica leaning plants to allow lower tops to get light. Ive even tried tying them up, and even tried cutting the leaves in half.
But i never ever strip off all of my leaves or flush. That will only work in a force fed, hydro, or soiless grow situation. With a living soil, we are mimicking nature and need to just try to make the environment as happy and pleasant as can be.
 
bobrown14

bobrown14

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I like to grow vertical for a lot of reasons. Mostly its less work and less troubles.

I have a plant now that is short and REALLY bushy be perfect for a scrog net. I just dont wanna do all that work tbh. I'm not doing anything cept hoping for the best. If I see 1 pesty pest chop chop.
 
JustBlazin

JustBlazin

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bobrown14 said:
Secret for cuts to root??
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Oh I find cloning pretty easy,
I use the powder for harder stems/rooting plants instead of the gel,Sterile utensils and make sure you try and keep the clone dome at around 80ish
Open holes on lid a little each day till open for first few days then shut for a day and open them right up day after that.so by around 1 week the top holes are open fully
Seems to work pretty well for me.
I have my dome on a shelf in a small 3 shelf cabinet with a t5 on the shelf below, it keeps the dome at pretty much the perfect temperature. Also mist the floor every day to keep moisture up
 
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