I’m lost on what’s wrong.

TheCake

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I have 4 autos growing in fox farms ocean forest that’s been amended with green sunshines earth dust. They are roughly 2-3 weeks into flower. 3 of them are looking just fine. But one of them(Blue Dream) has been drooping for about a week. I thought maybe it was overwatered. Let it dry out for 4-5 days. No change. Then thought maybe I was perpetually under watering since I was only giving it about a quarter gallon every other day. So I gave it a half gallon got a little runoff. Checked it today before work and it has shown no signs of perking up. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. 2F09DE95-4CC0-4893-AE3E-20092C27BCD9.jpeg
 

durbanpoisoner

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Oh boy that looks really bad. You have nutrient defiencies for sure, but you also surely have PH issues. Whats the PH of the soil? What's the PH of the solution you're watering with? You almost certainly are dealing with lockout due to PH. It's only going to continue getting worse. I have no experience with dry amendments but that's probably half your issue.

The way I would deal with this would probably be to flush the medium with PH'd water and then the next day, water with nutrient solution 1.0 - 1.2 EC. Curious what others would do.
 

Hiphophippo

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I would water to runoff pull off any dead leafs and watch it for a day or so then next time I watered I would use plain water again and see if she comes out of it it looks really bad but could turn around
 

TheCake

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FFOF is hot for most autos, and shows it with overwatering. That seems to be the case with your plant and any recovery is problematic at best but even stunted plants can give ya a lil smoke.
This makes sense. Plus when I top dressed with boost about a week prior to it starting to droop I think I may have been giving water a little to often as Green Sunshine said to keep it moist so that the microbes wouldn’t die from drying out. So maybe I made a hot soil hotter. But, the other three are all doing fine. So that’s where I was stumped.
 

TheCake

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Oh boy that looks really bad. You have nutrient defiencies for sure, but you also surely have PH issues. Whats the PH of the soil? What's the PH of the solution you're watering with? You almost certainly are dealing with lockout due to PH. It's only going to continue getting worse. I have no experience with dry amendments but that's probably half your issue.

The way I would deal with this would probably be to flush the medium with PH'd water and then the next day, water with nutrient solution 1.0 - 1.2 EC. Curious what others would do.
No nutrient solution as this is an organic living soil. The pH should be maintained by the living organisms in the soil.
 

TheCake

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Just checked the soil pH it’s right at 6. I figured it was fine when I seen a couple blades of grass growing in the pot yesterday.
 

Wattzzup

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Just checked the soil pH it’s right at 6. I figured it was fine when I seen a couple blades of grass growing in the pot yesterday.
Start with watering correctly. Forget about the ph until you’re watering correctly,

your microbes will take care of the ph. Be sure to let it dry between waterings.
 

TheCake

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You got a long thin stick? Poke it deep and see if moist dirt comes back up gripping the stick. If not it's bone dry. Runoff just means it found path of least resistance.
Definitely not bone dry. I just watered it yesterday.
 

Wattzzup

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Don’t water all of them on the same schedule. Check it once or twice per day. If the pot is light and it’s dry down to your first knuckle, then water. If not come back later.
 

harrychilds

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It looks like you had a nitrogen deficiency on the bottom of your plants and then you added too much nitrogen which made the leaves claw. And now you have got nitrogen toxicity in a lot of the new growth?
 

JimmiP

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Oh boy that looks really bad. You have nutrient defiencies for sure, but you also surely have PH issues. Whats the PH of the soil? What's the PH of the solution you're watering with? You almost certainly are dealing with lockout due to PH. It's only going to continue getting worse. I have no experience with dry amendments but that's probably half your issue.

The way I would deal with this would probably be to flush the medium with PH'd water and then the next day, water with nutrient solution 1.0 - 1.2 EC. Curious what others would do.
Flushing is for toilets!
 

Budzbuddha

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My 2 sheckles ….

First …FFOF can run an auto alone. It’s nute dense already - and takes weeks to begin exhaustion ( depending on strain ) .
‘Since it runs a bit hot right from bag , adding even more nutes on top will be a problem sometimes. Autos work well with simple feeds.

As FFOF actually begins to tap out ( 4-5 weeks ) or so , top dressing more simply refreshes / recharges that medium plus plant Is already acclimated to it. No guessing. The top dressing more FFOF during grow stages is pretty straight forward.

She is clawed up and stressed .
 

TheCake

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My 2 sheckles ….

First …FFOF can run an auto alone. It’s nute dense already - and takes weeks to begin exhaustion ( depending on strain ) .
‘Since it runs a bit hot right from bag , adding even more nutes on top will be a problem sometimes. Autos work well with simple feeds.

As FFOF actually begins to tap out ( 4-5 weeks ) or so , top dressing more simply refreshes / recharges that medium plus plant Is already acclimated to it. No guessing. The top dressing more FFOF during grow stages is pretty straight forward.

She is clawed up and stressed .
I’m starting to think I should have waited to add the boost top dressing a little later since I had already mixed in earth dust base originally at the beginning. But, the other three seem to be handling it well. Which is wild because when I mixed the base in the pots I did them at 4 different amounts kind of experimenting. It said 3-5 Tbsp per gallon of media. I went 9,10,11,12 between the pots and the Blue Dream is in the pot with the least amount. It also got the biggest fastest.
 
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