AP: Cyborgs, Trolls and bots: A guide to online misinformation

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hanimmal

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I was shocked by the utter hate I received for posting an opinion that wasn't quite within the narrative that some people wish to maintain. You can justify this by claiming that other websites are all the same, but in my personal experience it escalated much quicker in here - especially when some found out that I was not from their lands. Which is strange itself considering that said members claim to be liberals. I had no idea xenophobia was so rife among such.

I say shocked, but that does not mean I was offended. I genuinely just did not expect such harsh outbursts against what I had to say. The misrepresentations (see the white supremacy thread) that were made of me were astounding. Usually it takes a few pages before such tactics are employed in the hope that other readers have forgotten what it was that I had actually said, but here it was a mere couple of posts later.

I'm 41 years old and I've been surfing the web since I was around 16 so it's not anything I can't handle. I do miss the old days of the internet though, when we were all nerds. Now that everyone and their dog has access to it there is no camaraderie to be found anywhere. Everyone has a war to win and like your video suggests, everyone has a performance to play.

It's all six n two threes to me like, but I do prefer discussions/debates to refrain from trolling attacks because then you can actually discover new thoughts and ideas. It's very hard to promote an idea that does not conform to the local narrative without being hounded these days and I find that very sad.
Really what do you think would happen if you went onto say breitbart and started posting pro-democracy (little or big d) on Breitbart's comment section?

My rule of thumb is that I don't know anyone online, so why would I assume that I am not just being trolled. Regardless of the 'side'. The fact that you are saying that 'members claim to be liberals' like it actually means anything online is what I was trying to get at with the link I gave you above.
 

JamieThePainter

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Really what do you think would happen if you went onto say breitbart and started posting pro-democracy (little or big d) on Breitbart's comment section?
Okay, so coming onto this site and saying we shouldn't be viewing those who vote differently as the enemy is just like the above?

Did not know that. Interesting community you have here.
 

hanimmal

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Okay, so coming onto this site and saying we shouldn't be viewing those who vote differently as the enemy is just like the above?

Did not know that. Interesting community you have here.
lmao you keep setting yourself up to fail online by using words like 'community'.
 

JamieThePainter

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Yeah. What a failure I am for imagining that an online forum might be a community.

Learning more about this place every day. Not much of it is good. Just sayin.
 

hanimmal

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Yeah. What a failure I am for imagining that an online forum might be a community.

Learning more about this place every day. Not much of it is good. Just sayin.
Shit man, how do I know you are not just being a snowflake troll to try to make it out like somehow this website is bad?

It is a common tactic when trolls don't get anywhere with their divisiveness (due to other accounts trolling them right back and them outing themselves as another sock puppet troll) to complain about how 'both sides suck' and then point to people trolling them as proof.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/please-ban-me-says-the-propagandist-puppet.997760/
 

JamieThePainter

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Shit man, how do I know you are not just being a snowflake troll to try to make it out like somehow this website is bad?

It is a common tactic when trolls don't get anywhere with their divisiveness (due to other accounts trolling them right back and them outing themselves as another sock puppet troll) to complain about how 'both sides suck' and then point to people trolling them as proof.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/please-ban-me-says-the-propagandist-puppet.997760/
No worries, Troll. I think we're done here.
 

Justin-case

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Shit man, how do I know you are not just being a snowflake troll to try to make it out like somehow this website is bad?

It is a common tactic when trolls don't get anywhere with their divisiveness (due to other accounts trolling them right back and them outing themselves as another sock puppet troll) to complain about how 'both sides suck' and then point to people trolling them as proof.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/please-ban-me-says-the-propagandist-puppet.997760/
Must be election season again
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-rights-technology-business-social-media-f5ba340c7a98f6f058fb3afac74a26bb
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Beth Bowers grew up in the 1960s and 1970s with parents who marched in protests, wrote letters to members of Congress and voted in elections big and small.

Her father, a World War II veteran, and her mother, an educational counselor, did not use social media sites in their lifetimes. But Bowers is sure they would be disheartened to see how easily falsehoods about the U.S. elections are disseminated online to millions and millions of people.

That’s why the Evanston, Illinois, mom spends a few hours each week scouring Facebook groups for conspiracy theories or lies as part of a nationwide volunteer effort to debunk misinformation about voting.

“The good thing about this work is, it’d be so easy to become incredibly cynical and hopeless, but I think we feel like this is something we can do and make a difference,” Bowers, 59, said in a phone interview.

As voters ready for hundreds of elections of local and national importance this year, officials and voting rights advocates are bracing for a repeat of the misinformation that overwhelmed the 2020 presidential race and seeded distrust about the legitimacy of Democrat Joe Biden’s victory. It culminated in the storming of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 by angry supporters of then-President Donald Trump who believed his lies that the election was stolen from him.

“2020 changed everything,” said Alex Linser, deputy director of the Hamilton County, Ohio, election board. “This has got to be a part of our job now. Not just doing our job well, but showing the public how we do our job. For a long time, the system just worked and people didn’t have to think about it. Now, there’s a lot of people calling it into question.”

The voting advocacy group Common Cause will rely on thousands of volunteers like Bowers to identify misinformation floating around online and push for Facebook, Twitter and other social media platforms to take down the most egregious falsehoods. False claims about voting times, locations or eligibility, for example, are banned across Twitter and Meta’s platforms, which include Facebook and Instagram.

During the 2020 election, platforms applied fact checks, labeled or removed more than 300 pieces of popular, false content that Common Cause turned up. More recently, in Texas, more than 100 volunteers worked four-hour shifts to monitor false claims coming out of the state’s primary election in March. The most frequent conspiracy theory shared that night claimed that staffing shortages at polling locations were deliberate, Bowers noted.

“Texas is kind of the playbook for things to come,” said Emma Steiner, a disinformation analyst for the group. “My major concern is that local issues, like with these staff or ballot shortages, will be amplified by influencers or partisan actors with a national platform as signs of malign interference in elections; it’s a pretty recognized pattern from 2020.”

On Election Day 2020, Pennsylvania was a hotbed for false claims about voting machine outages and discarded votes that were shared across conservative news websites and social media.

It’s a problem that many counties in the state remain ill-equipped to handle, said Al Schmidt, who served as the lone Republican on Philadelphia’s election board during the 2020 presidential contest. He drew national attention for refuting Trump’s false claims of mass voter fraud. He resigned from his post in January and now runs a government watchdog group that also educates Pennsylvania voters about the election process.

“Elections are all consuming and few have the time to monitor and counter misinformation,” Schmidt said. “A lot of them don’t have the resources to do this, or the in-house capacity to do this by themselves — you’re hit at the time you’re most busy.”

Election officials in Ohio’s Hamilton County hope they are better prepared this year.

They have produced videos and crafted graphics, shared across Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, in an ongoing series called “MythBusters” that explains how complex voting issues such as recounts, audits and provisional ballots work. Last year, as the elections board was overwhelmed with calls and emails complaining about the voting process, it invited critics to take a tour of the warehouse that stores voting equipment and elections offices. Roughly two dozen people showed up, Linser said.

Trump has continued to describe the 2020 election as “rigged” or “stolen,” despite a coalition of top government and industry officials calling it “the most secure in American history.” A mountain of evidence has concluded that the election was executed without any widespread fraud. An Associated Press review of six battleground states disputed by Trump identified 475 cases of potential voter fraud, nearly all of which were isolated cases and were certainly not enough to tip the election in either candidate’s favor.

Yet Trump’s supporters have pushed for additional audits and reviews of the vote count.

In Arizona, GOP lawmakers last year hired a firm called Cyber Ninjas that spent six months searching for evidence of fraud to support Trump’s false claims of a stolen election. The group instead concluded that Biden had won the state by 360 more votes than the official results certified in 2020.

Staff in Arizona’s Maricopa County, the target of many false claims about the vote, have used the county’s official Twitter accounts to respond directly to misinformation, in both English and Spanish.

“BREAKING: The #azaudit draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the county’s canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win,” Maricopa County’s official Twitter account tweeted in September.

During last year’s gubernatorial recall effort in California, Los Angeles election officials found that using social media to respond directly to questions, mishaps at polling locations or misleading claims helped quickly stamp out viral misinformation or misunderstandings.

In one case, a Twitter user posted that he was unable to cast his ballot at a polling location because of a technical error that showed he had already voted. His story started to gain traction on social media, where it was held up as proof of widespread voter fraud.

The Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder County Clerk’s office responded publicly to the tweets, explaining that staffers had reached out to the voter directly to make sure he could cast a ballot.

The approach helps build trust with voters, said Mike Sanchez, a spokesperson for the office.

“Some individuals will just quite candidly tell us, ‘I never thought you would have responded,’” he said.
Not sure there is any credibility to be earned with Republicans. Maybe among themselves, like a fascy kind of cred, but nobody else takes them seriously.
lmao fair enough, I guess I should have said 'post count'.

No worries, Troll. I think we're done here.
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cannabineer

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Okay, so coming onto this site and saying we shouldn't be viewing those who vote differently as the enemy is just like the above?

Did not know that. Interesting community you have here.
after youve been informed that there is a material difference in the aims and tactics of the two existentially opposed sides, pretending to a specious egalitarianism as you try to present is stupidity and thus trolling. And youre still at your disinformed ways. Breitbart!
 
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