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DoubleAtotheRON

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Thanks for the encouraging words bro. There are days when I think “why am I even doing this now”… but, you’re right, things have to self level at some point. Gonna hang in there as long as we can.
 

Chanelno1

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Took some great advise from @Renfro to back build our genetics from Ethos. We liked the OKC (Orange Kush Cake) Early Lemon Berry, Dosi Whoa!, and a couple of others from Blimberg, Seedsman, etc. .. Strawberry Banana Grape was shit.. ditching that one this round. Got the room cleared, soil warming up in the processing room, and bleached everything down. Transplanting these clones in the morning... or afternoon, whenever I wake up. We have definitely learned alot over the past 3 runs, and this time, we want to do a more scrog approach. I really fucked up this round by not setting the net low enough. But, I didn't know how these Ethos genetics were going to stretch. We know now. Hopefully, this round will be easier on us come harvest time.... alright, here we go!View attachment 4451225View attachment 4451228View attachment 4451229View attachment 4451228
Jeepers I'd love to learn and grow like this but unfortunately it's too scary in Ireland and in my own home where its still illegal. Else I'd give it a damn good shot. I think I need to move somewhere where its legal-damn!
 

Chanelno1

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I feel bad that they have now dumped the METRC system on you. Some don't mind it, others absolutely hate it.
Hang in there my friend, swings in the market are like stocks, up and down, it's those like you that hold on thru the down times that make it thru. We had to thin the herd out, got rid of 10 employees, and our road crews are down from 85 people to 10. We are just starting to feel the effect of the "virus" we had stuff on the books that got us thru, but there hasn't been a lot of work out for bid. The one thing that's kept us going is our Service channel, all the rioting that happened, destroyed a whole lot of storefronts, and we are still replacing glass and doors. Hell, we opened up the new Chanel store at Hudson Yards mall in New York, Feb 15th, 1 week later, they mobbed and destroyed pretty much the entire storefront to the tune of $1.2 million to fix it.
Keep trudgin, in the end, its guys like you who will come out weathering the storm.
Aww wow no way-mindless destruction-why would you destroy a bud shop it makes no sense-well it doesn't to those of us who cannot buy it legally. Think I need to move to America and damn fast! I'd love a job within the cannabis industry-its the way forward-unfortunately Ireland won't legalise weed as its a tax haven here and they make billions if not trillions out of pharmaceutical companies and weed would blow most out of the water! Grrrr
 

Kgrim

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Aww wow no way-mindless destruction-why would you destroy a bud shop it makes no sense-well it doesn't to those of us who cannot buy it legally. Think I need to move to America and damn fast! I'd love a job within the cannabis industry-its the way forward-unfortunately Ireland won't legalise weed as its a tax haven here and they make billions if not trillions out of pharmaceutical companies and weed would blow most out of the water! Grrrr
I wish it was a Bud Shop. It was a Chanel store, like the perfume, and overpriced purses, and god awful expensive dresses. We do High End retail stores across the country. Just finished the Hudson Yards store, Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills is next on the docket. They are real gems to deal with, none of them between Paris and New York City can make up their minds on what they want. Color changes, pattern changes, you name it. It took them 7 months, 12 samples, and having material ready for my paint booth before they would decide. You really don't know how many damn shades of White exist until you have to deal with people like them, LOL
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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That Dosi is a work of art. I'm loving the structure and health of that plant. I'd kill to smell that girl in about 6-7 weeks. Thanks for posting it up in addition to the main grow shots.
Thanks!.. yeah, she's kind of an experiment. I had this mother that I was gonna toss, but decided to keep her going. She vegged for 3 1/2 months, and I flipped on April 9th. I've already had to wire tie those long lower branches to the frame. The thing got so heavy, and she's not even made buds yet. Gonna keep posting this one till she finishes.
 

SoD4nk

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Just curious what size pot did you switch to for this round? Will you still hit the same numbers you usually pull? Why the switch?
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I figured that while the market sucks anyways (for the moment), I’d go less plants (less work), 10g pots, and see if I can come close to 25 lbs with more net room, leg room, and longer veg. Running 30 is a lot less work than 84. I may be able to get more yield per plant if they have more lateral canopy to grow… it’s an experiment, so we shall see. The other experiment is that momma Dosi.. if I can pull a lb per plant, I’d def keep doing it.
 

paintnick

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havent popped in here for a bit, im curious DoubleA as i have followed ya and popped in from the beginning for a while now, from what i can gather Oaklahoma medical is now under the stipulation that seed to sale tracking (METRC) is now imposed. I have worked on both the producer side with metrc, & the lab side of metrc, & the dispensary side of metrc. is it the system itself thats a pain to learn? is it simply compliance (having to tag everything)? im curious as to what the worst part from your experience is of metrc?
*edit* - to be clear i find metrc very annoying and frustrating*

side note - LOVE the dosi experiment & love the 30 plant count idea;

perhaps consider a 60 plant count and do two rows of 10 gal pots to cut down veg but still get a similar yield with maybe comparable work in terms of longer vegged time.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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havent popped in here for a bit, im curious DoubleA as i have followed ya and popped in from the beginning for a while now, from what i can gather Oaklahoma medical is now under the stipulation that seed to sale tracking (METRC) is now imposed. I have worked on both the producer side with metrc, & the lab side of metrc, & the dispensary side of metrc. is it the system itself thats a pain to learn? is it simply compliance (having to tag everything)? im curious as to what the worst part from your experience is of metrc?
*edit* - to be clear i find metrc very annoying and frustrating*

side note - LOVE the dosi experiment & love the 30 plant count idea;

perhaps consider a 60 plant count and do two rows of 10 gal pots to cut down veg but still get a similar yield with maybe comparable work in terms of longer vegged time.
As of May 26th, you have to be fully compliant (we are already)... IF you've tested product before May 26th, and you have not sold it yet, you have to RE-TEST it again under METRC. As far as METRC goes, Paige thinks it will be easier than what we've been doing, which is a seed to sale program that Paige created. We've been using this as our monthly report to the State every month since 2018.
This 30 count is going to be interesting to see if I can get more yield per plant if I don't crowd them up so close to each other. It's taking more training at the canopy with super cropping, tie and weave, but it's more enjoyable than scattering around feeding 87-90 plants. Looking back on previous grows, the Dosi is shoulder to shoulder, and I think I can do better on the average grams per plant if I give them more room. The Momma Dosi will give me an indicator when I harvest her. Then it will be finding that magic number of plants to run... 30? 40? 60?... we shall see!
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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An interesting observation with Momma Dosi... when I let her veg for 3 1/2 months, and then flipped.. I saw almost no stretch. She just started setting flower sites.
 

paintnick

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im sure you will find the magic plant count number in due time. I will say metrc can be a pain on all sides of if; however once you get a hang of it there is some great analytical data that can be had from it that can help you in general in sales, & production. some people process harvest weight interesting ways like averaging the wet and dry weight of all plants across the board IE one resting average per plant weight after the fact. some people take it more serious and do exact per plant wet/dry harvest weight. my best advice would be having someone who has worked with metrc at length in the past teach ya the ins and outs of compliance as well as ways to work the program the most efficiently.

as always your stuff looks clean and spot on.
also; are you still using the same HLG 550's from about 2 years ago from when you first set up via this current thread?

best,
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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im sure you will find the magic plant count number in due time. I will say metrc can be a pain on all sides of if; however once you get a hang of it there is some great analytical data that can be had from it that can help you in general in sales, & production. some people process harvest weight interesting ways like averaging the wet and dry weight of all plants across the board IE one resting average per plant weight after the fact. some people take it more serious and do exact per plant wet/dry harvest weight. my best advice would be having someone who has worked with metrc at length in the past teach ya the ins and outs of compliance as well as ways to work the program the most efficiently.

as always your stuff looks clean and spot on.
also; are you still using the same HLG 550's from about 2 years ago from when you first set up via this current thread?

best,
They have a "training" video series, but you know how those can be... vague. Paige is pretty smart on that kind of stuff, so im sure she'll catch on quick. This kinda of stuff is in her wheelhouse. She's got data from everything we've grown and sold since 2018. .. and yes, still burning those 550 V2's since 2018.
 

SNEAKYp

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They have a "training" video series, but you know how those can be... vague. Paige is pretty smart on that kind of stuff, so im sure she'll catch on quick. This kinda of stuff is in her wheelhouse. She's got data from everything we've grown and sold since 2018. .. and yes, still burning those 550 V2's since 2018.
Some light math after a few more lower count plant runs could get you pretty close to maximized plant count if you have that much data to work with already. It must be fun to see trends popping up.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Some light math after a few more lower count plant runs could get you pretty close to maximized plant count if you have that much data to work with already. It must be fun to see trends popping up.
Yeah man,... it's interesting to see grow after grow what works, and what's "too much". It will take years for me to figure this out, Im still a pup. But, I like experiments with using both extremes to see what works, and what doesn't. The experiments will go on forever.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I will intentionally light burn a pheno just to know what it's limits are. Funny thing i've noticed, is that I have to keep my lights further away with less plant count. Makes sense tho right? There can only be so much biomass there that can take in the photons. The rest are getting over used by the less plant count. Noted.
 
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