Hermie seeds
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xtsho
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I would.
petert
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I’m not familiar with growing seeds from hermie plants. Will they produce potent plants?
fredfreddead
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I am currently growing 2 groups of plants from Hermies from last years crop.
They are from fem autos and 100% are looking totally true to type.
I am finishing my plants outside in FL and I think it is going to be an ongoing
issue due to environmental stresses here. But, hey free seeds. Gave some seed
to a indoor growing friend and he wants more. Quality on par with parent.
They are from fem autos and 100% are looking totally true to type.
I am finishing my plants outside in FL and I think it is going to be an ongoing
issue due to environmental stresses here. But, hey free seeds. Gave some seed
to a indoor growing friend and he wants more. Quality on par with parent.
HydroKid239
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It’s possible it can produce favorably, just keep an eye on them for sacks that may form. If they form without you knowing, you will have more seeds. It’s the gift that keeps on giving lol
harrychilds
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I am pretty sure a hermie plant produces s1 seeds which are feminized?
fredfreddead
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Yeah, barring that you didn't have some random pollen blow in. In my case
I was growing fem autos in the spring so I would not expect any pollen to
be around.
ProPheT 216
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Genetics are the same regardless of what your working with. The reason inbreeding is bad is because when one parent lacks something the other fills in the bad gene. That does not mean anything will be wrong with the offspring, just raises potential their could be. You could stabilize that plant still over generations.
petert
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I think I’ll either just pull them or give them to someone. I’ve already got 20 beautiful plants from Humboldt Seed Co. seeds.
hotrodharley
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No. Nanners produce female pollen. Hermies blow male. Hermaphroditism is in the genes and is probably a survival tool. Had a hermie pollinate two strains. The Bubblegum got pollinated by a hermie LA Confidential. (LA Confidential tends to hermie). The seeds were regular and popped about 7 out of 10 female. No tendency to hermie at all. Tossed the seeds from the LAC.
fredfreddead
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Many types of plants are self pollenated and require totally different breeding strategies. Cannabis is mainly
cross pollenated and was grown as land races for thousands of years.
cross pollenated and was grown as land races for thousands of years.
Boatguy
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No. They will produce plants similar to the parent, or parents.
Some may be herm prone, others may not be.
fredfreddead
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Mine must have been nanners, I never actually saw any male flowers. My first indication was what I thought was a nanner but turned out to be a root from a seed germinating in the bud after some rain. Weird had never seen seed germinate right on plant.
Boreal Curing
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I don't agree. If there isn't a male involved, the pollen will not have the male genetic material necessary to produce male pollen. If you ended up with regular seeds, then a male in the area pollinated your flowers.
Nanners tend to be contained within the bud. Without the space needed to produce round balls, they come out squished looking like bananas. A Hermi plant will produce Balls outside of the bud, usually at the node. Hermi plants are much more aggressive than a plant that produces nanners. But the pollen will be female. Still, if balls show up, kill the plant because the trait will only get stronger with time.
The only time pollen balls are OK is if the plant Rhodelizes. Then you've hit the jackpot. Rhodelization happens at end of life well after harvest if you can keep the plant alive. It's a survival mechanism in case there are any pistils in the area that still viable. When I have an exceptional pheno, I leave a few lower buds on the plant in the hopes of getting fem pollen. I rarely get it, but it happens. The outdoor GG4 buds on this plant were really big, very tight and produced a huge yield so I kept it going. Everyone thought it was indoor bud.
Southernontariogrower
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My outdoor has years of breeding, with rhudallis sativa and indica, the rhudallis makes it a hearty plant that can freeze and live, seeds lay outside all winter and come up late march, hermied yup most likely, but no pollen puffs. Im thinking some females just produce seeds, very few but some. Ive had a few that threw a few male flowers and then just bud, l pick off pollen flowers before open. So doesnt seed the high grade, last year one came up in 4inches of soil. Hit the eaves trough by end of august. I didnt top or train her as she came up in late may. Very small compared to my real grow. Shot hairs early july in flower by mid to end. Good backup for rainy fall. Id try them bc you never know what your throwing away. Could be 40% thc or more by luck of draw.
StinkinLincoln
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Hello from prohibition-land! Indoor grower here. I have been growing the same plant (gelato) for 11 grows. All from a bagseed that i made herm with light stress from lack of light discipline when I was first growing.
My suggestion is to make sure you heavily defolate and keep all buds to top 3 nodes. Ive found i get nanners in week 5 if Im not getting max light exposure. Due to multiple toppings and extended veg, i can still get over a lb from 1 plant scrog'd in a 4x4 with the hermd seed. It just requires tenacity. My 1st 4 grows all seeded out due to nanners in week 4-5. If your pheno is hermie prone you MUST be diligent at both pruning and defoliation. Max light exposure and airflow will help prevent balls or nanners.
My suggestion is to make sure you heavily defolate and keep all buds to top 3 nodes. Ive found i get nanners in week 5 if Im not getting max light exposure. Due to multiple toppings and extended veg, i can still get over a lb from 1 plant scrog'd in a 4x4 with the hermd seed. It just requires tenacity. My 1st 4 grows all seeded out due to nanners in week 4-5. If your pheno is hermie prone you MUST be diligent at both pruning and defoliation. Max light exposure and airflow will help prevent balls or nanners.
hotrodharley
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Well I’ve grown proof that you are wrong. If hermies produced feminized seeds then we wouldn’t fucking need STS or colloidal silver. Would we?
HydroKid239
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Thanks got sharing your experience there. The initial plant that set it off for me growing was a bag seed. The plant looked good, however she produced nanners without me knowing til the end. By the time I found out, there were fully developed seeds & they look gorgeous. I am almost ready to pop some & put em outside this year. With the knowledge I was able to pick up over the last couple of years, I should be able to do a better job on it. That first round sucked, but it helped me get where I’m at.
xtsho
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There are nanners and there are balls. Pollen from nanners will be feminized seeds. Pollen from balls can be either male, female, or hermaphrodite. I've used pollen from nanners to make seeds and all grew female plants that never exhibited hermaphroditism except a rare few plants that developed a few nanners late in flower.
The nanners will make feminized seeds while the balls will produce both sexes. That's been my experience and I've played around just for the hell of it.
The nanners will make feminized seeds while the balls will produce both sexes. That's been my experience and I've played around just for the hell of it.
hotrodharley
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Those seeds, if from nanners, will be feminized. The only time it’s truly a drag is when you are selling bud. I mean I’m real life. The seeded bud is good to smoke and I’m separating seeds from buds now. Selling seeds and smoking bud. But these were bred intentionally and I’m not selling bud.
This panic when a hermie happens is silly unless you’re seriously counting on selling your product.