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FishingwithDave

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I've got a Pineapple Thai X CD, a Chem D X BananaOG, a Chocolate Covered Strawberry and three Bag of Oranges X Panama Red that I started about a month ago. As you can see in the pics, I’m getting yellowing and dried out tips on the lower leaves of these plants. I think the likely cause is nitrogen deficiency, but I don’t know for sure. Could use some help determining the issue and hopefully resolving it. (I’ve tried to provide all the details I could think of, so I apologize for the length of this post.)

These plants are 28 days old since sprouting. They are primarily growing indoors under an LED light, though I began taking them outdoors for short periods everyday since 5/11/22 to get them used to sunlight. For the first couple of weeks, they were on an 18/6 schedule, but I’ve been slowly lowering the hours of light downwards so the plants don’t flip to flower when they get transplanted outdoors. Towards the end of May, they will be transplanted outside, in the ground in No-Till soil.

The soil in the cups is year old Soil King Baby Big Rootz mixed with a small amount of worm casings (maybe a 1/8 ratio). Up until 5/16/22, I only watered the plants with water or water mixed with a small amount of Harmless Harvest coconut water. The water was filtered and Ph balanced. About a week ago, I started to see some yellowing and brown tips on a few of the lower leaves. I figured it was time to start feeding them some nutrients. On Monday, 5/16/22, I watered using a tea I made. I placed about ½ teaspoon each of Neem, Kelp and Alfalfa meal into a cheese cloth and let it soak in a quart of water for 24 hours, stirring periodically. I then mix the tea, at a ratio of 1/5 with water, and Ph balance it. Today, I again watered with this concoction. I’m thinking this tea should provide enough nitrogen and other nutrients, but that may be a bad assumption on my part.

I’m trying to wait another week before planting them in the ground because daylight will be closer to 14.5 hours where I live. Once in the ground, I know they will get all the nutrients they need. Maybe I’m over thinking all of this.

Does this look like nitrogen deficiency? Do you think my tea should be providing enough of the necessary nutrients that these girls need? Should I just stick these into the no-till soil and put this issue in the rear view mirror?

Any help and advise will be truly appreciated.

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rijkmus1

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FishingwithDave said:
I've got a Pineapple Thai X CD, a Chem D X BananaOG, a Chocolate Covered Strawberry and three Bag of Oranges X Panama Red that I started about a month ago. As you can see in the pics, I’m getting yellowing and dried out tips on the lower leaves of these plants. I think the likely cause is nitrogen deficiency, but I don’t know for sure. Could use some help determining the issue and hopefully resolving it. (I’ve tried to provide all the details I could think of, so I apologize for the length of this post.)

These plants are 28 days old since sprouting. They are primarily growing indoors under an LED light, though I began taking them outdoors for short periods everyday since 5/11/22 to get them used to sunlight. For the first couple of weeks, they were on an 18/6 schedule, but I’ve been slowly lowering the hours of light downwards so the plants don’t flip to flower when they get transplanted outdoors. Towards the end of May, they will be transplanted outside, in the ground in No-Till soil.

The soil in the cups is year old Soil King Baby Big Rootz mixed with a small amount of worm casings (maybe a 1/8 ratio). Up until 5/16/22, I only watered the plants with water or water mixed with a small amount of Harmless Harvest coconut water. The water was filtered and Ph balanced. About a week ago, I started to see some yellowing and brown tips on a few of the lower leaves. I figured it was time to start feeding them some nutrients. On Monday, 5/16/22, I watered using a tea I made. I placed about ½ teaspoon each of Neem, Kelp and Alfalfa meal into a cheese cloth and let it soak in a quart of water for 24 hours, stirring periodically. I then mix the tea, at a ratio of 1/5 with water, and Ph balance it. Today, I again watered with this concoction. I’m thinking this tea should provide enough nitrogen and other nutrients, but that may be a bad assumption on my part.

I’m trying to wait another week before planting them in the ground because daylight will be closer to 14.5 hours where I live. Once in the ground, I know they will get all the nutrients they need. Maybe I’m over thinking all of this.

Does this look like nitrogen deficiency? Do you think my tea should be providing enough of the necessary nutrients that these girls need? Should I just stick these into the no-till soil and put this issue in the rear view mirror?

Any help and advise will be truly appreciated.

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I can't read all you wrote because I am way too high from blackend oranges. Your plants will be fine outside. I think you are making it harder than it has to be. I would be worried about finishing some of the strains you have listed. I am a believer of mycos when you get them out. That little bit of wilt would not bother me either if it doesn't move to other leaves.
Bag of oranges X Panama Red I would like to see how it does.
 
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ChrispyCritter

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Frank Nitty said:
Been away from here for a minute... It seems that I get into trouble when I speak my mind on this site, so I won't be posting as much to avoid any more drama... DEFINITELY not entering any more contests!!!View attachment 5136229View attachment 5136230View attachment 5136231View attachment 5136232View attachment 5136233View attachment 5136234View attachment 5136235View attachment 5136236View attachment 5136237
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Beautiful plants @Frank Nitty. I can't imagine what you could have said for you to need to watch your tongue. You've been nothing but respectful and positive toward others that I've ever seen or read. I was wondering where you went. Glad everything is good. As usual your plants look awesome.
 
Rivendell

Rivendell

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FishingwithDave said:
I've got a Pineapple Thai X CD, a Chem D X BananaOG, a Chocolate Covered Strawberry and three Bag of Oranges X Panama Red that I started about a month ago. As you can see in the pics, I’m getting yellowing and dried out tips on the lower leaves of these plants. I think the likely cause is nitrogen deficiency, but I don’t know for sure. Could use some help determining the issue and hopefully resolving it. (I’ve tried to provide all the details I could think of, so I apologize for the length of this post.)

These plants are 28 days old since sprouting. They are primarily growing indoors under an LED light, though I began taking them outdoors for short periods everyday since 5/11/22 to get them used to sunlight. For the first couple of weeks, they were on an 18/6 schedule, but I’ve been slowly lowering the hours of light downwards so the plants don’t flip to flower when they get transplanted outdoors. Towards the end of May, they will be transplanted outside, in the ground in No-Till soil.

The soil in the cups is year old Soil King Baby Big Rootz mixed with a small amount of worm casings (maybe a 1/8 ratio). Up until 5/16/22, I only watered the plants with water or water mixed with a small amount of Harmless Harvest coconut water. The water was filtered and Ph balanced. About a week ago, I started to see some yellowing and brown tips on a few of the lower leaves. I figured it was time to start feeding them some nutrients. On Monday, 5/16/22, I watered using a tea I made. I placed about ½ teaspoon each of Neem, Kelp and Alfalfa meal into a cheese cloth and let it soak in a quart of water for 24 hours, stirring periodically. I then mix the tea, at a ratio of 1/5 with water, and Ph balance it. Today, I again watered with this concoction. I’m thinking this tea should provide enough nitrogen and other nutrients, but that may be a bad assumption on my part.

I’m trying to wait another week before planting them in the ground because daylight will be closer to 14.5 hours where I live. Once in the ground, I know they will get all the nutrients they need. Maybe I’m over thinking all of this.

Does this look like nitrogen deficiency? Do you think my tea should be providing enough of the necessary nutrients that these girls need? Should I just stick these into the no-till soil and put this issue in the rear view mirror?

Any help and advise will be truly appreciated.

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In my opinion, most of those issues are a result of plants that size in solo cups. My rule of thumb, is that if I think I need to feed in solos or start seeing any of the signs your plants are exhibiting, it is more effective to up pot than to chase issues in a cup.
 
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FishingwithDave

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rijkmus1 said:
I can't read all you wrote because I am way too high from blackend oranges. Your plants will be fine outside. I think you are making it harder than it has to be. I would be worried about finishing some of the strains you have listed. I am a believer of mycos when you get them out. That little bit of wilt would not bother me either if it doesn't move to other leaves.
Bag of oranges X Panama Red I would like to see how it does.
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Appreciate the candid info. I will definitely provide updates on this grow especially for the BOOxPR. I’m fairly new to growing so I don’t know what you mean when you say your “worried about finishing some of those strains.” Thanks again!
 
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FishingwithDave

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Rivendell said:
In my opinion, most of those issues are a result of plants that size in solo cups. My rule of thumb, is that if I think I need to feed in solos or start seeing any of the signs your plants are exhibiting, it is more effective to up pot than to chase issues in a cup.
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Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense! I tend to over think things and hadn’t thought about outgrowing the Solo cups. Thanks for sharing that with me!
 
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rijkmus1

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FishingwithDave said:
Appreciate the candid info. I will definitely provide updates on this grow especially for the BOOxPR. I’m fairly new to growing so I don’t know what you mean when you say your “worried about finishing some of those strains.” Thanks again!
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What I am saying is that some strains take longer to flower outside. The length of the days depends on your location on planet earth. I grew Usefull blackend oranges in 2020 outdoors at n41 and I have to harvest at the end of September. I am sure that I picked a few weeks before the buds were at full maturity and potentacy. Even when harvested early was good smoke. I puy my outdoors out a on Tuesday
and go from 24 hour light to the great outdoors. I had problems simular to yours with lower leaves and I think it is human error. What the error is you made I can't say but I do more harm to my plants trying to do to much. As long as your plants are growing you will be fine. Get them out and let those roots free to roam in some good soil. This is just the beginning you will have more serious problems with insects animals rot or mold later on.
 
Headgrinder

Headgrinder

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FishingwithDave said:
I've got a Pineapple Thai X CD, a Chem D X BananaOG, a Chocolate Covered Strawberry and three Bag of Oranges X Panama Red that I started about a month ago. As you can see in the pics, I’m getting yellowing and dried out tips on the lower leaves of these plants. I think the likely cause is nitrogen deficiency, but I don’t know for sure. Could use some help determining the issue and hopefully resolving it. (I’ve tried to provide all the details I could think of, so I apologize for the length of this post.)

These plants are 28 days old since sprouting. They are primarily growing indoors under an LED light, though I began taking them outdoors for short periods everyday since 5/11/22 to get them used to sunlight. For the first couple of weeks, they were on an 18/6 schedule, but I’ve been slowly lowering the hours of light downwards so the plants don’t flip to flower when they get transplanted outdoors. Towards the end of May, they will be transplanted outside, in the ground in No-Till soil.

The soil in the cups is year old Soil King Baby Big Rootz mixed with a small amount of worm casings (maybe a 1/8 ratio). Up until 5/16/22, I only watered the plants with water or water mixed with a small amount of Harmless Harvest coconut water. The water was filtered and Ph balanced. About a week ago, I started to see some yellowing and brown tips on a few of the lower leaves. I figured it was time to start feeding them some nutrients. On Monday, 5/16/22, I watered using a tea I made. I placed about ½ teaspoon each of Neem, Kelp and Alfalfa meal into a cheese cloth and let it soak in a quart of water for 24 hours, stirring periodically. I then mix the tea, at a ratio of 1/5 with water, and Ph balance it. Today, I again watered with this concoction. I’m thinking this tea should provide enough nitrogen and other nutrients, but that may be a bad assumption on my part.

I’m trying to wait another week before planting them in the ground because daylight will be closer to 14.5 hours where I live. Once in the ground, I know they will get all the nutrients they need. Maybe I’m over thinking all of this.

Does this look like nitrogen deficiency? Do you think my tea should be providing enough of the necessary nutrients that these girls need? Should I just stick these into the no-till soil and put this issue in the rear view mirror?

Any help and advise will be truly appreciated.

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Everything looks 99% good to me. It doesn't look like anytype of deficiency. The rest of the plant looks super healthy and just about as good as I've seen. I am not sure how, because they are lower leaves, but it kinda looks like a little sunburn, or like leaves that have been indoors that are just acclimating to the outdoors. That's my opinion based on limited experience, but isn't anything that needs to be worried about. If that was spread throughout the whole plant, then I'd worry, but they look great. Keep up the good work!
 
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FishingwithDave

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Headgrinder said:
Everything looks 99% good to me. It doesn't look like anytype of deficiency. The rest of the plant looks super healthy and just about as good as I've seen. I am not sure how, because they are lower leaves, but it kinda looks like a little sunburn, or like leaves that have been indoors that are just acclimating to the outdoors. That's my opinion based on limited experience, but isn't anything that needs to be worried about. If that was spread throughout the whole plant, then I'd worry, but they look great. Keep up the good work!
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Thanks! I think it’s time to put them in the ground where they can spread their roots and get some good organic nutrients.
 
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FishingwithDave

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Headgrinder said:
Everything looks 99% good to me. It doesn't look like anytype of deficiency. The rest of the plant looks super healthy and just about as good as I've seen. I am not sure how, because they are lower leaves, but it kinda looks like a little sunburn, or like leaves that have been indoors that are just acclimating to the outdoors. That's my opinion based on limited experience, but isn't anything that needs to be worried about. If that was spread throughout the whole plant, then I'd worry, but they look great. Keep up the good work!
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Your comment about looking like sunburn just hit me like a ton of bricks! I keep them in a foil roasting pan to make it easier to move them around, including setting them outdoors to get used to real sunlight. Sun reflecting off the foil could certainly cause sunburn. 50A6F8B4-97F2-4350-AC4E-675E0B31ED21.jpeg
 
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