THT

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Anybody run the midnight mass or uptown purps? I got one of each vegging right now, just trying to find some info as far as flowering time, and how much they stretch. Wondering if I should flip early or how long I should veg for. Thanks!
Just started some a week or so ago. 3 of the four popped and I put them straight into 12/12 like I do with all my seed runs. I heard they most/all flower 80+ days so I expect some more lanky plants. Fingers crossed looking for some tasty piffy haze.
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Paul-n-Chukka

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It’s been circulating on the east coast for a few more years than pcg had it, and there’s some guys in Maine running full tables of it they liked it so much. I get about 80% people saying they love it and 20% saying they don’t. So really everyone has a different perspective. I’m not too worried about a hurt reputation at all, because it’s still more piffy than anything else on the market and that’s just the beginning. The pc3 cuts definitely geared more towards commercial growers though. If you want the long flowering pcg also has the cbh which is a tried and true old clone that’s been around since 89. Again, I’ve seen great samples of black and terrible ones. It is 30 years old and there are recipes the Dominicans and Cubans have been using to get it to fully express. They say the cut come cheap but the recipe is what you really gotta pay for. It does wonderful in my living soil, and most other growers usually get it dialed by the 3rd run. If you can grab the cbh cheap enough, give it a shot and run it the full 92+
Oh shit did he really say that the ghetto holds a " secret recipe" ? Fkn hilarity persists.
Aceite de Culebra Jaba is that secret ingredient.
 

TankHankerous

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Maybe you’re looking for what they referred to as the pepperhead. Or the Frankie’s. popular late 80s to mid 90s hazes that were around a bit before dipset and all them started calling all the hazes “piff” I’m too young to have smoked it but from all the stories I hear they were great ones
We used to get the Frankies in high school. First tried it in '01 or '02 and smoked it for a couple of years before it seemingly vanished. 20 bucks got you a .8 that would break up into a nice blunt and would be packaged in those little 25 cent machine bubble containers.

I know there are a lot of haze strains and crosses but if anyone remembers the Frankies, I'm trying to find seeds with similar features of that strain. The smell, the potency... If you know, you know.
 

GWilliamsCannabis

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We used to get the Frankies in high school. First tried it in '01 or '02 and smoked it for a couple of years before it seemingly vanished. 20 bucks got you a .8 that would break up into a nice blunt and would be packaged in those little 25 cent machine bubble containers.

I know there are a lot of haze strains and crosses but if anyone remembers the Frankies, I'm trying to find seeds with similar features of that strain. The smell, the potency... If you know, you know.
The piff is frank incense, puday and whatever other names you heard 90s-early 2000s NYC haze called.....there's just several different phenos that were going around.
 

Tchef2525

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JUST because its on forums, doesnt make it fact.

Honestly, I live in the greater nyc area. I sold piff and smoked that shit every single day for 3+ years. I know Piff. The taste, smell and look are embedded in my mind forever.

That being said. The Piff thats back in NYC is 100% Piff. Whether it came from a bagseed or not, there are NO other genetics crossed into it. I know this because ive smoked Piff in 2022 regularly. Its available everyday, whenever.

IF it came from bagseed and not a cut from the source, they landed a bagseed of the SAME exact pheno of Piff that I sold. The chances of that happening in a random bagseed, even from the same genetics....then have it be selfed and still be 100% what I sold are 1 in a fucking billion.

Thats why I dont by the Boston Bagseed story. Plus like I said, in 3+ years of having Piff every single fucking day - there were absolutely no bagseeds.

This Piff S1 came from a direct cut that was selfed, no doubt in my mind. Maybe the bagseed story is so the. True source doesnt get out, I dont know

Ill believe what I wanna believe, everyone else can believe whatever story they heard as well.

All I know is the Piff is alive and well around here.
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I'm from mass and this story has been around for a whileeeeee. I'm not gonna say the dudes icmag name but he gave it to JJ for clout. He wanted to feel better about himself and fell connected to a breeder for giving him the cut . He called the cut piffs1 and it was a fake . The cut is some haze that someone just grew n it floated around . But the reallllllll piff itself ... Btw I have definitely found a few seeds in piff back around 2005ish. After 2009 or so Mass didn't get piff like that unless there was a grower with it and even that was hard ,2 runs a year didn't give the community pounds on deck to find bagseed . My homie with the cut doesn't herm it and shits piff. the cut definitely has some type of dudding though . He says he has decent runs recently so yes piff lives on . I was just here to clarify the whole Boston bagseed theory ...my vote for true
 

Piffcoastfarms

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The piff s1 cut came out of @massgenetics room. Selfed seed.
Mass blooms gave it to jj as “brown haze” and claimed it to be an original cut. Then snypewonka posted screenshots of him admitting it was a bagseed not the actual brown cut that massgen had.
I reversed the cut and made the S2s that’s where the pc3 comes from. Mother in the holy communion cross and all of jjs uptown brown stuff. That cut from mass blooms! It’s not a bad cut, lacks potency. Pc3 makes up for that though, and the s1 breeds really well too. Faster pheno and seems to impart that as well as the piffy smell onto all its progeny. I’m happy it showed up. The black haze is from nl5hz seed stock from Ed rosenthal in Amsterdam in 89. Brought to Florida and popped. Made it up to ny by 92
 

Tchef2525

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The piff s1 cut came out of @massgenetics room. Selfed seed.
Mass blooms gave it to jj as “brown haze” and claimed it to be an original cut. Then snypewonka posted screenshots of him admitting it was a bagseed not the actual brown cut that massgen had.
I reversed the cut and made the S2s that’s where the pc3 comes from. Mother in the holy communion cross and all of jjs uptown brown stuff. That cut from mass blooms! It’s not a bad cut, lacks potency. Pc3 makes up for that though, and the s1 breeds really well too. Faster pheno and seems to impart that as well as the piffy smell onto all its progeny. I’m happy it showed up. The black haze is from nl5hz seed stock from Ed rosenthal in Amsterdam in 89. Brought to Florida and popped. Made it up to ny by 92
Hahahah I just didn't wanna name drop him
 

Tchef2525

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The piff s1 cut came out of @massgenetics room. Selfed seed.
Mass blooms gave it to jj as “brown haze” and claimed it to be an original cut. Then snypewonka posted screenshots of him admitting it was a bagseed not the actual brown cut that massgen had.
I reversed the cut and made the S2s that’s where the pc3 comes from. Mother in the holy communion cross and all of jjs uptown brown stuff. That cut from mass blooms! It’s not a bad cut, lacks potency. Pc3 makes up for that though, and the s1 breeds really well too. Faster pheno and seems to impart that as well as the piffy smell onto all its progeny. I’m happy it showed up. The black haze is from nl5hz seed stock from Ed rosenthal in Amsterdam in 89. Brought to Florida and popped. Made it up to ny by 92
Snype is my homie and he currently is holding most of my cuts down. His cut is reallllldeal holy field piffff
 

Tchef2525

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I will say for legal purposes massgenetics is not involved in this conversation . So if the feds watching , were just chatting up about him .
 
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