Spider Mites Still Alive After Neem/Soap spray.

Canadian Joe

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I sprayed Neem and Dr Bronners Peppermint soap mix at a 1oz Neem to 1TBSP Dr Bronners per gallon in the Hudson Atomizer last night. This afternoon I noticed the spider mites were not phased. Anything better to knock these down. I don’t grow outdoors often so not used to dealing with any bugs as I’ve never had any indoors in all my years growing. Spider mites suck. They get my tomatoes too almost every year at some rate.
 

CaliRootz88

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I sprayed Neem and Dr Bronners Peppermint soap mix at a 1oz Neem to 1TBSP Dr Bronners per gallon in the Hudson Atomizer last night. This afternoon I noticed the spider mites were not phased. Anything better to knock these down. I don’t grow outdoors often so not used to dealing with any bugs as I’ve never had any indoors in all my years growing. Spider mites suck. They get my tomatoes too almost every year at some rate.
I battled spider mites for almost a year.. tried many products along the way. This one did it for me. I would use this if you're in veg up until week 1-2 of flower if needed.

 

Canadian Joe

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Ok, Citric Acid or PureCrop1.

I see the PureCrop1 has Citric Acid as an ingredient. There are so many freaking things folks suggest like Plant Therapy, Neem/Soap,Mammoth Canna, EndAll, etc etc.

Thanks for the suggestions, I try PureCrop as it has the citric acid as well.
 

xtsho

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Ok, Citric Acid or PureCrop1.

I see the PureCrop1 has Citric Acid as an ingredient. There are so many freaking things folks suggest like Plant Therapy, Neem/Soap,Mammoth Canna, EndAll, etc etc.

Thanks for the suggestions, I try PureCrop as it has the citric acid as well.
Citric acid and vegetable oil. You can either mix it together yourself or pay $35 for a 16 oz bottle already mixed. Either option will work.

Good luck killing the bugs.
 

FirstCavApache64

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Citric acid and vegetable oil. You can either mix it together yourself or pay $35 for a 16 oz bottle already mixed. Either option will work.

Good luck killing the bugs.
What does the vegetable oil do? Does it act as a carrier oil or something? I haven't added that before but I'll try it next time if it helps spread out the love to the little bastards.
 

xtsho

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What does the vegetable oil do? Does it act as a carrier oil or something? I haven't added that before but I'll try it next time if it helps spread out the love to the little bastards.
I've never added oil when I use citric acid. I do use oils as a preventative. I'll make a mix of potassium silicate, canola, and a little sesame oil as a foliar to use as a preventative against insects and PM. I prefer sesame oil over neem as it doesn't stink and it's a dual use product since I always have it on hand for cooking. For an active infestation I've just always used straight citric acid mixed with water.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I've never added oil when I use citric acid. I do use oils as a preventative. I'll make a mix of potassium silicate, canola, and a little sesame oil as a foliar to use as a preventative against insects and PM. I prefer sesame oil over neem as it doesn't stink and it's a dual use product since I always have it on hand for cooking. For an active infestation I've just always used straight citric acid mixed with water.
Which one do you use? We always have a small bottle of the toasted sesame oil.

This looks like a good one though.

sesame.jpeg
 

Canadian Joe

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I've never added oil when I use citric acid. I do use oils as a preventative. I'll make a mix of potassium silicate, canola, and a little sesame oil as a foliar to use as a preventative against insects and PM. I prefer sesame oil over neem as it doesn't stink and it's a dual use product since I always have it on hand for cooking. For an active infestation I've just always used straight citric acid mixed with water.
Are you just using food grade citric acid powder? If so, what’s your ratio per gallon?
 

xtsho

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Are you just using food grade citric acid powder? If so, what’s your ratio per gallon?
Yes just food grade. 2-3 tsp per quart is the standard dosage. Some people have said that 3 tsp cause some leaf burn. So starting with 2 tsp per quart is advisable. I think various factors affect how strong you can make it. Temperature, humidity, light , etc... Indoors it should be sprayed with the lights off and plants allowed to dry before turning the lights on. Outdoors it should be used like other foliars and sprayed in the morning or evening but never during the middle of the day.

There are also commercial citric acid products like NukEm and Dr Zymes which are effective and have more specific dosage and usage instructions.
 

FirstCavApache64

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I've never added oil when I use citric acid. I do use oils as a preventative. I'll make a mix of potassium silicate, canola, and a little sesame oil as a foliar to use as a preventative against insects and PM. I prefer sesame oil over neem as it doesn't stink and it's a dual use product since I always have it on hand for cooking. For an active infestation I've just always used straight citric acid mixed with water.
Okay, you said Citric acid and vegetable oil and I thought you were mixing the two of them together. I have always just sprayed the citric acid on in water with a mister and had great results as far as killing the bugs. I thought maybe mixing the oil did something different. Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding.
 

xtsho

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Okay, you said Citric acid and vegetable oil and I thought you were mixing the two of them together. I have always just sprayed the citric acid on in water with a mister and had great results as far as killing the bugs. I thought maybe mixing the oil did something different. Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding.
I was referring to the PureCrop 1 which has soybean and corn oil along with citric acid. From what people say that product is effective. But I think it's mainly the citric acid.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I was referring to the PureCrop 1 which has soybean and corn oil along with citric acid. From what people say that product is effective. But I think it's mainly the citric acid.
My guess is the citric acid kills and the oil prevents any ones left alive from sucking on the leaves. It probably helps keep the citric acid moist so it works longer too.

That's totally just my stoner brain at work though, :bigjoint:. I have no idea if I'm even close.
 
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