January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

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Bummer it is not playable. NYTimes did a really interesting look into the Proud Boy's terrorist acts on Jan 6th.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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At Least Six GOP Lawmakers Asked Trump For Pardons
6,915 views Jun 26, 2022 Witnesses for the January 6 Committee, including a former White House lawyer, have named the Republican members of Congress who sought pardons after the insurrection. “In terms of proving criminal intent, this is some nice evidence,” says former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade. She joined Insider senior editor Kadia Tubman to discuss whether the Committee’s hearings are reaching conservatives.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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At Least Six GOP Lawmakers Asked Trump For Pardons
6,915 views Jun 26, 2022 Witnesses for the January 6 Committee, including a former White House lawyer, have named the Republican members of Congress who sought pardons after the insurrection. “In terms of proving criminal intent, this is some nice evidence,” says former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade. She joined Insider senior editor Kadia Tubman to discuss whether the Committee’s hearings are reaching conservatives.
that picture on the front of the video says texas under greene, she represents georgia, not texas
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What I find funny is you can't be on a jury in most places if you are a felon, but a felon is allowed to appoint 3 of your SCOTUS justices! It can be easily proved Trump was a felon before he appointed his first judge and committed serious crimes while he was appointing judges, all this can be proved.

Trump's 3 justices lied and misled congress to gain their appointments, as did Alito and if the democrats can keep the house majority they can hold impeachment inquires on them and Clarence Thomas too for his wife and J6. They only need a simple majority for this and they could subpoena the entire court along with the clerks to testify on TV. J6 will give leverage over many people in the Whitehouse connected to their appointments. How thorough was Brett Kavanagh's vetting? It was cut short as I recall and the allegations were not perused as they should have been. Well the guy in the WH responsible for cutting that vetting short and the reasons for it, might now have his balls in a vice over J6, or someone else does who knows things.

If it were the republicans, they would pursue everybody to the grave over everything and crow about it when every guilty democrat went to jail and justice was impeached. They would destroy the lives of those, even distantly connected to J6 without a second though and set a mob on those they couldn't convict in court.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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With the stipulation that the only useful proof is a conviction in criminal court, I disagree. Were it easy, it would have been done back then.
The DOJ decision on a sitting president made that impossible at the time with the Mueller report for instance, much less the stormy Daniels case and that predated his presidency with Cohen doing the time. As kingpin of that scheme Donald could have caught ten years on federal charges, they have his signature on checks and had several witnesses, it was a slam dunk documents case.
 

printer

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Half in new poll say Trump tried to stay in office through illegal means
Half of U.S. adults believe former President Trump planned to remain in the presidency through illegal and unconstitutional activities, according to a new CBS News-YouGov poll.

Three in 10 respondents believed Trump planned to stay in office through legal means, while 2 in 10 believed he did not plan to stay.

But the poll found that among Republicans, just 13 percent believed Trump planned to stay through illegal means. Half of Republicans said he was using legal processes to remain in the presidency, while more than a third — 37 percent — said he did not plan to stay.

Half of Republicans called the events of Jan. 6, 2021, “patriotism,” and 70 percent of Republicans said President Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election, according to the poll.

The poll was conducted in the wake of public hearings held by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is pursuing its own investigation.

Forty-six percent said they believed the House panel should recommend DOJ charge Trump with crimes, while 31 percent said the committee should recommend Trump not be charged. Twenty-three percent said the panel should not make a recommendation either way.

The poll found that those views were split on partisan lines. Eight in 10 Democrats said they think the committee should recommend criminal charges, compared to 44 percent of independents and 8 percent of Republicans.

The question of referring criminal charges has become a point of disagreement among some members of the committee.

The panel’s chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), said earlier this month that the panel would not be issuing formal criminal referrals to DOJ, but Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the panel’s vice chairwoman, soon after said the question of referrals remained unresolved.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), another member of the panel, said last week that the DOJ has to make its own decision.

Meanwhile, more Democrats watching from the sidelines are calling on the committee to make a criminal referral for Trump.

The poll found that Americans were evenly split on whether they thought charging Trump with crimes for Jan. 6 would help strengthen democracy in the United States.

Thirty-nine percent said clearing Trump of wrongdoing for the events of that day would help strengthen the country’s democracy.

The poll was conducted between June 22 and 24 through interviews with 2,265 U.S. adult residents. The margin of error is 2.6 percentage points.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Half in new poll say Trump tried to stay in office through illegal means
Half of U.S. adults believe former President Trump planned to remain in the presidency through illegal and unconstitutional activities, according to a new CBS News-YouGov poll.

Three in 10 respondents believed Trump planned to stay in office through legal means, while 2 in 10 believed he did not plan to stay.

But the poll found that among Republicans, just 13 percent believed Trump planned to stay through illegal means. Half of Republicans said he was using legal processes to remain in the presidency, while more than a third — 37 percent — said he did not plan to stay.

Half of Republicans called the events of Jan. 6, 2021, “patriotism,” and 70 percent of Republicans said President Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election, according to the poll.

The poll was conducted in the wake of public hearings held by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is pursuing its own investigation.

Forty-six percent said they believed the House panel should recommend DOJ charge Trump with crimes, while 31 percent said the committee should recommend Trump not be charged. Twenty-three percent said the panel should not make a recommendation either way.

The poll found that those views were split on partisan lines. Eight in 10 Democrats said they think the committee should recommend criminal charges, compared to 44 percent of independents and 8 percent of Republicans.

The question of referring criminal charges has become a point of disagreement among some members of the committee.

The panel’s chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), said earlier this month that the panel would not be issuing formal criminal referrals to DOJ, but Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the panel’s vice chairwoman, soon after said the question of referrals remained unresolved.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), another member of the panel, said last week that the DOJ has to make its own decision.

Meanwhile, more Democrats watching from the sidelines are calling on the committee to make a criminal referral for Trump.

The poll found that Americans were evenly split on whether they thought charging Trump with crimes for Jan. 6 would help strengthen democracy in the United States.

Thirty-nine percent said clearing Trump of wrongdoing for the events of that day would help strengthen the country’s democracy.

The poll was conducted between June 22 and 24 through interviews with 2,265 U.S. adult residents. The margin of error is 2.6 percentage points.
Republicans make up around 24%, democrats 34% and independents who mostly lean right make up the rest as I recall. So a straight up poll without party affiliation would be a more useful way to present the data, though less dramatic. I believe over 60% of Americans believe Trump is guilty, if memory severs me and that number is likely to grow. It will grow even more when he is convicted.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Half in new poll say Trump tried to stay in office through illegal means
Half of U.S. adults believe former President Trump planned to remain in the presidency through illegal and unconstitutional activities, according to a new CBS News-YouGov poll.

Three in 10 respondents believed Trump planned to stay in office through legal means, while 2 in 10 believed he did not plan to stay.

But the poll found that among Republicans, just 13 percent believed Trump planned to stay through illegal means. Half of Republicans said he was using legal processes to remain in the presidency, while more than a third — 37 percent — said he did not plan to stay.

Half of Republicans called the events of Jan. 6, 2021, “patriotism,” and 70 percent of Republicans said President Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election, according to the poll.

The poll was conducted in the wake of public hearings held by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is pursuing its own investigation.

Forty-six percent said they believed the House panel should recommend DOJ charge Trump with crimes, while 31 percent said the committee should recommend Trump not be charged. Twenty-three percent said the panel should not make a recommendation either way.

The poll found that those views were split on partisan lines. Eight in 10 Democrats said they think the committee should recommend criminal charges, compared to 44 percent of independents and 8 percent of Republicans.

The question of referring criminal charges has become a point of disagreement among some members of the committee.

The panel’s chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), said earlier this month that the panel would not be issuing formal criminal referrals to DOJ, but Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the panel’s vice chairwoman, soon after said the question of referrals remained unresolved.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), another member of the panel, said last week that the DOJ has to make its own decision.

Meanwhile, more Democrats watching from the sidelines are calling on the committee to make a criminal referral for Trump.

The poll found that Americans were evenly split on whether they thought charging Trump with crimes for Jan. 6 would help strengthen democracy in the United States.

Thirty-nine percent said clearing Trump of wrongdoing for the events of that day would help strengthen the country’s democracy.

The poll was conducted between June 22 and 24 through interviews with 2,265 U.S. adult residents. The margin of error is 2.6 percentage points.
This is from a month after J6 and we have seen no exculpatory evidence, quite the opposite, but for many facts don't matter, neither does the constitution.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's kinda looking like Americans are too stupid to be free and need to be slaves under a hard master.
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Percentage of Americans who say Trump was responsible for Jan. 6 drops: poll

The percentage of Americans who say former President Trump was responsible for the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol dropped to 45 percent in an NBC News poll released on Monday.

About 17 percent of respondents said the former president is solely responsible for the rioting, while 28 percent say he is mainly responsible, according to the survey.

In January 2021, 52 percent of respondents said Trump was responsible, with 28 percent saying he was solely responsible and 24 percent saying he was mainly responsible.

By comparison, the percentage of Americans in the new poll who say Trump was “not really” responsible for Jan. 6 grew to 35 percent, up from 29 percent in January 2021. About 20 percent of Americans now say he is somewhat responsible, up from 18 percent 18 months ago.


The findings come as the House select committee investigating the Capitol riot prepares for its first public hearing Thursday night. Lawmakers are expected to present their findings to the public after collecting thousands of documents and conducting more than 1,000 interviews.

On Jan. 6, 2021, a mob of Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to overturn certification of the 2020 election, which the former president and his supporters continue to claim, without evidence, was stolen. The rioting came shortly after Trump held a rally, dubbed “Stop the Steal,” on the White House Ellipse.
 

printer

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Republicans make up around 24%, democrats 34% and independents who mostly lean right make up the rest as I recall. So a straight up poll without party affiliation would be a more useful way to present the data, though less dramatic. I believe over 60% of Americans believe Trump is guilty, if memory severs me and that number is likely to grow. It will grow even more when he is convicted.
You know, you can use the RINO word, it is ok.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You know, you can use the RINO word, it is ok.
I gotta tell ya, the experiment in mass psychology and tribalism south of the border is both fascinating and terrifying for a Canadian. The willful blindness of tens of millions of people to a POS like Trump is something that has to be seen to be believed. Nobody could have predicted this level of lunacy 20 years ago and it's hard to believe the same place elected Obama twice and then grab them by the pussy Trump. Who would have thought someone like Trump would have captivated the family values crowd of Christians, Donald was as close as it gets to the Antichrist and the embodiment of the 7 deadly sins!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Michael Cohen issues URGENT WARNING to Trump’s Jan 6 Co-Conspirators
35,414 views Jun 26, 2022 Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's former attorney and fixer, appeared on MSNBC today and gave his advice to Trump's Jan 6 co-conspirators.
 
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