Bug Pros, ID & Help

PioneerValleyOG

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Only one thing giving me props, making these browns spots nit quite all the way through, thinking leaf miner, captured a few pics of 3 dif bugs. Mostly I see the rainbow small oval red, blue and green, but there's a couple more here.
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DancesWithWeeds

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Leafhoppers
I vote leafhoppers. You better get "Yellow Sticky Traps".
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Leafhoppers are attracted to them. Another thing, I dust with DE. I watched one on a leaf stand on his nose to suck juice. After he righted himself I killed it and watched that leaf for the next couple of days and there wasn't any damage. I think the DE made it too uncomfortable for him. It's like broken glass to them. Not that you would eat it but it's "food grade". As long as you don't breathe it it's a lot better for you than insecticides. A little water washes it off. I wouldn't use it during flower. The DE would stick to the flowers.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Yup, I got sticky traps, not a lot on them, but I have lots of luck eradicating by hand. Yesterday I killed like 12 in the Alpha patch. Including 3 in one grab!!!20220703_161417.jpg
 

DancesWithWeeds

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I put sticky traps out when I first put the plants out. It didn't take long to start catching bugs, like half a minute. The traps are loaded and this is the third set. The weird thing is I haven't seen or traped a leafhopper in a couple of weeks. Mainly flys and small green grasshoppers. The grasshoppers don'tseem to be eating. they just sit there. That might be the DE working.
 

natureboygrower

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I don't sweat leafhoppers. There's over 20,000 species, they've got a hard shell and they're quick as ninjas. They fly off as soon as you start spraying and I've found nothing to spray on the plant to turn them off to it.
They really only do minimal damage once the plant is larger and healthy enough to withstand some chewing. I just look at it as part of growing in the woods.
 

DancesWithWeeds

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I don't sweat leafhoppers. There's over 20,000 species, they've got a hard shell and they're quick as ninjas. They fly off as soon as you start spraying and I've found nothing to spray on the plant to turn them off to it.
They really only do minimal damage once the plant is larger and healthy enough to withstand some chewing. I just look at it as part of growing in the woods.
I don't contradict people very often but that is BS. Stuff like that is the kind of thing that will ruin crops if people take it seriously.
 

King Dude

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I don't contradict people very often but that is BS. Stuff like that is the kind of thing that will ruin crops if people take it seriously.
I've had leafhoppers before, and they don't seem to hurt my plants very much. Only every so often does a plant of mine get absolutely wrecked. It looks ugly, but I've never seen it kill... yet.

I think that environment has a lot to do with the insect's ability to proliferate. Not everyone's growing cannabis in a field of grass where an established population of leafhoppers exist. They can definitely cause problems, though. Fortunately, I have Frank in my profile picture.
 

natureboygrower

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I've had leafhoppers before, and they don't seem to hurt my plants very much. Only every so often does a plant of mine get absolutely wrecked. It looks ugly, but I've never seen it kill... yet.

I think that environment has a lot to do with the insect's ability to proliferate. Not everyone's growing cannabis in a field of grass where an established population of leafhoppers exist. They can definitely cause problems, though. Fortunately, I have Frank in my profile picture.
Leafhoppers are everywhere. Fields, woods.
You're not going to stop them with sticky traps and DE, and will probably end up killing more beneficials than hoppers with those.

I've dealt with swarms of LH for the last 12 years at my current spot.
Grow healthy plants and they wont skip a beat while under attack by LH.
 

King Dude

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Leafhoppers are everywhere. Fields, woods.
You're not going to stop them with sticky traps and DE, and will probably end up killing more beneficials than hoppers with those.

I've dealt with swarms of LH for the last 12 years at my current spot.
Grow healthy plants and they wont skip a beat while under attack by LH.
Leafhoppers are everywhere, but they many proliferate better in grassy fields than wooded areas with predators are also very established. They can be more or less manageable in different situations.

Even genetics are at play, with concentrations of molecular defense mechanisms expressing differently between strains. Plants use VOCs to attract predators of invading insects, which might be further amplified by mycorrhizae structures as part of their symbiotic relationship. Sometimes breeding practices affect expression of these defensive traits.
 

Lenin1917

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Yeah gypsy moths are cool as fuck. No need to kill them.
If you have an indoor grow you wanna kill any moth that gets near it, fuck even potentially getting caterpillars. Outdoor yeah I’m letting it be that’s their house but it comes inside it dies if not by my hand then by one of my 4 cats
 

PioneerValleyOG

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I've had leafhoppers before, and they don't seem to hurt my plants very much. Only every so often does a plant of mine get absolutely wrecked. It looks ugly, but I've never seen it kill... yet.

I think that environment has a lot to do with the insect's ability to proliferate. Not everyone's growing cannabis in a field of grass where an established population of leafhoppers exist. They can definitely cause problems, though. Fortunately, I have Frank in my profile picture.
These are Rhododendron leafhoppers. I kill many manually every day. They do extensive damage if let go.leafhoppers-cannabis.jpginvasion-of-the-leafhoppers-figure-1.jpg20220703_161417.jpg
 
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