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xtsho

xtsho

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Lil dicky said:
Omg here
You guys
Ive been doing this a while now and there ABSOLUTELY is a difference in taste and burn when you flush.
I’ve also taken a quarter pound of dried flower that wasnt flushed and tasted bitter and soaked it. Guess what? After 5 hours the ppm of the water (approx 4gal) went to over 1000. I then drained the water and soaked again. 500 ppm.
Perhaps this is from over-fertilization.
Either way though, it’s difficult to avoid that 60+ years of cannabis horticulture is wrong based on ONE study on a single strain in a single medium with one (their proprietary) nutrient line.
Y’all need to stop acting so smug, lol. It’s actually kind of hilarious. Yeah Jorge Cervantes is wrong. Ed Rosenthal is wrong. But you, yeah you, you’re right.

Its actually shocking this whole discussion on flushing.
It’s a thing you dum dums. Soak your un-flushed nuggets in water and tell me what your ppm meter says.
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You have absolutely no understanding of basic plant science.

60 years of cannabis broscience still being kept alive by lil dicky's like you.

Cervantes and Rosenthal are stoners not scientists. Yes they are wrong about many things.
 
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Lil dicky

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LeastExpectedGrower said:
...always the new guy...

Also anyone who calls people 'dum-dums,' yet can't spell dumb.
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Dude I’m just trying to be light hearted
You dum dum lol
Seriously though the vitriol and disrespect from the “non-flushers” is frankly retarded.
Y’all are way overconfident. Or maybe bored.

Also new guy? Lol I’ve been growing professionally for the last 15 years.

You guys need to literally soak your unflushed buds and tell me what the ppm is
 
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Lil dicky

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xtsho said:
You have absolutely no understanding of basic plant science.

60 years of cannabis broscience still being kept alive by lil dicky's like you.

Cervantes and Rosenthal are stoners not scientists. Yes they are wrong about many things.
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that’s fine bro
It’s just it absolutely is a thing
Grow your flowers with salts. Don’t flush. Soak your unflushed buds for 12 hours.
Let me know what your ppms are.
 
LeastExpectedGrower

LeastExpectedGrower

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Lil dicky said:
Dude I’m just trying to be light hearted
You dum dum lol
Seriously though the vitriol and disrespect from the “non-flushers” is frankly retarded.
Y’all are way overconfident. Or maybe bored.

Also new guy? Lol I’ve been growing professionally for the last 15 years.

You guys need to literally soak your unflushed buds and tell me what the ppm is
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Mostly dust and grime from an unfiltered grow space.
 
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Lil dicky

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LeastExpectedGrower said:
Mostly dust and grime from an unfiltered grow space.
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Dust is not really soluble. Also, why would it go to 1000 ppm then to 500 ppm on second soaking of the dried material
My grow space isn’t dirty like that anyway. Grime? Lol
Why are people so emotionally tied to this no-flushing thing?
There are clearly a number of variables here but if over-fert is real, then flushing is real too

But definitely don’t take my word for it.
As if I needed to say that, lol
 
LeastExpectedGrower

LeastExpectedGrower

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Lil dicky said:
Dust is not really soluble. Also, why would it go to 1000 ppm then to 500 ppm on second soaking of the dried material
My grow space isn’t dirty like that anyway. Grime? Lol
Why are people so emotionally tied to this no-flushing thing?
There are clearly a number of variables here but if over-fert is real, then flushing is real too

But definitely don’t take my word for it.
As if I needed to say that, lol
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Osmosis doesn't work that way.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Lil dicky said:
Dust is not really soluble. Also, why would it go to 1000 ppm then to 500 ppm on second soaking of the dried material
My grow space isn’t dirty like that anyway. Grime? Lol
Why are people so emotionally tied to this no-flushing thing?
There are clearly a number of variables here but if over-fert is real, then flushing is real too

But definitely don’t take my word for it.
As if I needed to say that, lol
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You're the one that dug up this old thread.
 
bk78

bk78

Well-Known Member
Lil dicky said:
Omg here
You guys
Ive been doing this a while now and there ABSOLUTELY is a difference in taste and burn when you flush.
I’ve also taken a quarter pound of dried flower that wasnt flushed and tasted bitter and soaked it. Guess what? After 5 hours the ppm of the water (approx 4gal) went to over 1000. I then drained the water and soaked again. 500 ppm.
Perhaps this is from over-fertilization.
Either way though, it’s difficult to avoid that 60+ years of cannabis horticulture is wrong based on ONE study on a single strain in a single medium with one (their proprietary) nutrient line.
Y’all need to stop acting so smug, lol. It’s actually kind of hilarious. Yeah Jorge Cervantes is wrong. Ed Rosenthal is wrong. But you, yeah you, you’re right.

Its actually shocking this whole discussion on flushing.
It’s a thing you dum dums. Soak your un-flushed nuggets in water and tell me what your ppm meter says.
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Calm down rubber ducky
 
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Synchronicity

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I have been "flushing" and not flushing for many moons. I have been flushing my last grow for over 3 weeks and thats longer than I wanted to but it did not mature by when I began the flush........
Buds pulled all along the flush period were all great, but the latest tasted smoother and better to me.

There are many variables so I go by what I thinks works in my little grow environment here......

So I flush when I can but if I misjudge the chop date then it may not be such a good thing

:weed:
 
Bucsfan80

Bucsfan80

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Dumbest shit I ever heard lol. If you give plain h2o for 3-4 weeks or "flush" where do the excess ferts go? Does the plant just transpire them out? How is there excess ferts, does the plant store ferts? Does mother nature flush plants? I was under the impression that the plant takes up what it needs to grow not take up and store ferts for a rainy day. I'm just a dumb dumb so what do I know anyway
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Bucsfan80 said:
Dumbest shit I ever heard lol. If you give plain h2o for 3-4 weeks or "flush" where do the excess ferts go? Does the plant just transpire them out? How is there excess ferts, does the plant store ferts? Does mother nature flush plants? I was under the impression that the plant takes up what it needs to grow not take up and store ferts for a rainy day. I'm just a dumb dumb so what do I know anyway
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Yes they transpire out, mainly through the stomata on the sugar leaves. That's why the trichomes turn amber on the sugar leaves before the buds. They're not amber from ripeness but dirty from nutrient residue.

I just submitted a patent application for this revolutionary device I've invented that will allow a grower to reclaim and reuse those nutrients. The cost of the current device won't make it feasible for a small grower to use but I'm targeting the large commercial grow operations where nutrients can be a significant cost. This device will allow them to reclaim those nutrients that transpire out of the plant during flushing. I have several in trial right now and preliminary results are very promising. One very large grower that is using the device has been able to reclaim over 50% of their nutrients leading to significant savings.

If there is enough interest I might start working on a smaller device targeted towards consumer grows. The problem is getting the price point down to a price affordable to the consumer. $300 is the target price I think I can achieve which would be a good value to the consumer while allowing for a modest profit.

:mrgreen:
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
Yes they transpire out, mainly through the stomata on the sugar leaves. That's why the trichomes turn amber on the sugar leaves before the buds. They're not amber from ripeness but dirty from nutrient residue.

I just submitted a patent application for this revolutionary device I've invented that will allow a grower to reclaim and reuse those nutrients. The cost of the current device won't make it feasible for a small grower to use but I'm targeting the large commercial grow operations where nutrients can be a significant cost. This device will allow them to reclaim those nutrients that transpire out of the plant during flushing. I have several in trial right now and preliminary results are very promising. One very large grower that is using the device has been able to reclaim over 50% of their nutrients leading to significant savings.

If there is enough interest I might start working on a smaller device targeted towards consumer grows. The problem is getting the price point down to a price affordable to the consumer. $300 is the target price I think I can achieve which would be a good value to the consumer while allowing for a modest profit.

:mrgreen:
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i've been offering to wash everybody's (hydroton) balls to reclaim nutes. it's been a hard sell so far...
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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Bucsfan80 said:
Dumbest shit I ever heard lol. If you give plain h2o for 3-4 weeks or "flush" where do the excess ferts go?
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Nowhere, but you don't give the plant more nutes so the net amount is still less. As its demand sinks anyway

Bucsfan80 said:
How is there excess ferts, does the plant store ferts?
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in vacuoles, leaf tissue, Ca oxalate, phloem-loaded (sap), or in floral tissue accumulated

Bucsfan80 said:
Does mother nature flush plants?
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In autumn in rains, monsoon, etc
Reduced ground temperature reduce mineralization rate and water uptake

Bucsfan80 said:
I was under the impression that the plant takes up what it needs to grow not take up and store ferts for a rainy day
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that's not how it works lmao
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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I'm curious how many plants were used in the study.

One theory I've heard in terms of pro-flushing from a cannabis consultant who I know, is that lower EC will cause the plant to take up more water, and thereby cause slightly increased dried bud weight.
 
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