The Junk Drawer

Roger A. Shrubber

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We must have a talk about dimensions..I'm afraid once we figure how to get ourselves there (which we probably know already they're just not telling us) our physics properties won't work there and can't get back.

Where do you think all those people in Nome, Alaska have disappeared to?
i searched for missing people in nome alaska...didn't get one reputable hit back, everything ws on fringe freaky sites, and i don't trust ANY of them for anything. i would guess most of the people missing in all of alaska either froze to death and will be eventually found in the woods, or someone got sick of being locked up with them for 9 month winters and killed them.
so explain to me how the people who live in a place our physics won't work (?) got here? wouldn't their physics not work here? if reality is so different in either place?
why does humanity have so much trouble believing that extraterrestrials don't give one flying fuck about us? our ego makes us assume that people who can go anywhere, and do anything, would waste one second on our pathetic little backwater planet? there isn't one unique thing on our planet except us, and we're no fucking prize. ANYTHING they could want from us, they would pass by a thousand times on their way here, on a thousand different planets, a million different asteroids...we're a pissant planet in the middle of no where, inhabited by hostile, stupid, self destructive idiots...anyone watch "the Orville" ? see the episode where one race keeps other races as zoo exhibits, and they let them all go for a catalog of human reality shows?...that's the only reason i can even faintly imagine for aliens observing us, we're like a really bad reality show, where everyone fucks everyone, and then lies through their teeth about it....
and if aliens are interested in that, then i don't want them to be real
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Tampon dispensers in boys bathrooms. Call me old fashioned but ...

Schools are about the future, not the past, that is where the people going to them will live. I say let professional educators make decisions about schools and leave the amateurs and religious nuts out of the decision making. Anybody ask how the kids feel about the issue? Teachers and leaders can lead up and to a better place or down to a darker place. Trump lead down and the trip down is easy, the climb back up is difficult. Does this lead up or down? Is it somebody's personal agenda? Are objections to it religiously based? What actual harm does it do?

The kids growing up in these schools will live in a different world than I grew up in almost 60 years ago. We have seen that racism and bigotry are destructive forces that turn people into suckers and fools, schools have an obligation not to turn out fools, but responsible citizens, not future republicans. A big part of that is helping them to be more empathetic and stretch their minds, while exercising them and filling them with useful facts and knowledge, not false legends, myths and bullshit. Racism and bigotry are taught and learned, absorbed in some cases with the culture of white supremacy and other bigotries. We have witnessed it's destructive effects in America when propaganda turns existing bigotry into tribalism and that becomes politics in a system with just two sides.
 

Sativied

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...i'm all for being yourself...but is this necessary? how deep into the whole cross dressing thing are some people?
I think Oregonians should be proud. When you separate toilets based on archaic ideologies where women are less than men you can't expect that division to work for people whose sex doesn't match their gender. Someday when or if humanity comes back to their senses we'll have unisex toilets again and separate toilets for women will be something of backward countries in the middle east.

Cross dressing is something entirely different then transgenders and those two should never be lumped together.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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You could have fem presenting butch- she'll use the men's room but still have a period.
not having any experience in the matter, don't you guys keep a few on you around that time? i know i'd have a whole damn box in my book bag if it was something i had to deal with. and a change of clothes. and some chocolate.
 

Sativied

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We must have a talk about dimensions..I'm afraid once we figure how to get ourselves there (which we probably know already they're just not telling us) our physics properties won't work there and can't get back.

Where do you think all those people in Nome, Alaska have disappeared to?
Worse, the system our simulation runs on might not be designed to travel between different instances of the simulation and as soon as someone figures it out it will produce an 'internal error' and it all comes crashing down.

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The last words on the lips of many humans will be: "damn you Bill Ga..."

I watched all bering sea gold episodes at least twice so I too am curious to know what people in Nome?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I think Oregonians should be proud. When you separate toilets based on archaic ideologies where women are less than men you can't expect that division to work for people whose sex doesn't match their gender. Someday when or if humanity comes back to their senses we'll have unisex toilets again and separate toilets for women will be something of backward countries in the middle east.

Cross dressing is something entirely different then transgenders and those two should never be lumped together.
i don't get the whole women are less than men thing, toilets are toilets, and women's rooms are usually nicer than men's rooms. it's a societal issue where we make people ashamed of the "dirty parts" of their bodies that keep people going to separate rest rooms, and wearing clothes at all. i don't know exactly where that started, but i'm guessing it had something to do with religions, and making it easier to control people?
adam and eve were perfect in their naked ignorance, but once they tasted of the tree of knowledge, they knew shame....
which sounds like a small group with "special knowledge" making knowledge almost a sin for the common people.
and really, i'm not trying to lump anyone together, i'm just kind of obtuse and the obvious doesn't occur to me until pointed out, on occasion.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think Oregonians should be proud. When you separate toilets based on archaic ideologies where women are less than men you can't expect that division to work for people whose sex doesn't match their gender. Someday when or if humanity comes back to their senses we'll have unisex toilets again and separate toilets for women will be something of backward countries in the middle east.

Cross dressing is something entirely different then transgenders and those two should never be lumped together.
There is the problem of rape and sexual assault by men against women with unisex washrooms. What woman would want to be alone in a unisex public washroom with Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump, or those like him? The idea of separate washrooms was to protect women from men and we have not evolved to the point where such separation is required in at least some settings. We to an extent, like the Muslims, lock up the women and let the perverts run free.
 

Sativied

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There is the problem of rape and sexual assault by men against women with unisex washrooms.
A very conservative non-argument as the last sentence in your post underlines. A view on women that is rather backward and holds true in still backward countries. My wife would rip Donald's head off. The excuse for separate toilets was to protect them, the reason was to put them and keep them in their place.

i don't know exactly where that started, but i'm guessing it had something to do with religions, and making it easier to control people?
Something like that yes.

"Kogan, who has done extensive research on the history of sex-segregation in public restrooms, tells TIME that the policies came about as a result of social anxieties about women’s places in the world."

"Kogan says the idea that all women are in increased danger in mixed or gender-neutral bathrooms doesn’t make sense, as predators “are not waiting for permission to dress up like a woman to go into bathrooms.”" Right... obviously.

Women never asked for it and separate toilets don't keep rapists from raping.

Ironically it's trans people who are at most risk of being raped in unisex toilets.

adam and eve
Fictional characters in ancient times, separate toilets are of relatively modern times, not by law till almost 140 years ago in US. Unisex toilets have been normal much longer than the silly situation we have now.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A very conservative non-argument as the last sentence in your post underlines. A view on women that is rather backward and holds true in still backward countries. My wife would rip Donald's head off. The excuse for separate toilets was to protect them, the reason was to put them and keep them in their place.


Something like that yes.

"Kogan, who has done extensive research on the history of sex-segregation in public restrooms, tells TIME that the policies came about as a result of social anxieties about women’s places in the world."

"Kogan says the idea that all women are in increased danger in mixed or gender-neutral bathrooms doesn’t make sense, as predators “are not waiting for permission to dress up like a woman to go into bathrooms.”" Right... obviously.

Women never asked for it and separate toilets don't keep rapists from raping.

Ironically it's trans people who are at most risk of being raped in unisex toilets.


Fictional characters in ancient times, separate toilets are of relatively modern times, not by law till almost 140 years ago in US. Unisex toilets have been normal much longer than the silly situation we have now.
So you don't think the number of sexual assaults against women will increase with unisex washrooms? Men are far less civilized than you think, its why women don't walk alone at night, we go with what we got, not what we want and there are less than nefarious reasons for it. Impugning motives to me does not help your case, but your idea causes harm to women on a large scale IMHO. There may come a time when such things are common, but our society is not ready for them yet, though they are appropriate in certain settings.

The idea here is public safety for women and not much else, I don't care who uses what washroom or if there are condom and tampon dispensing machines in both, or just one washroom. We only prosecute a small fraction of the sexual assaults now (there is no rape in Canada) and if we can contrive circumstances where they are avoided, so much the better and when they do happen, make those responsible accountable.
 

schuylaar

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Worse, the system our simulation runs on might not be designed to travel between different instances of the simulation and as soon as someone figures it out it will produce an 'internal error' and it all comes crashing down.

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The last words on the lips of many humans will be: "damn you Bill Ga..."

I watched all bering sea gold episodes at least twice so I too am curious to know what people in Nome?
OMG! I love Bering Sea Gold.. I love Shawn..last I saw he partnered with a guy and put a huge backhoe on his boat..Is there another Season? Besides Linux is the way.
 

Sativied

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Is there another Season?
This is always the question with Bering sea gold, is there a new season, under the ice maybe, then I stop asking and looking for a while and boom, a whole new season to stream. They're usually a season or two behind on our local Discovery channel. Yeah Shawn is great, but love Chris Kelly too.

I also watch Gold Rush, white water (Fred's my favorite of all), Aussie gold hunters, and outback opal hunters.
 

schuylaar

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This is always the question with Bering sea gold, is there a new season, under the ice maybe, then I stop asking and looking for a while and boom, a whole new season to stream. They're usually a season or two behind on our local Discovery channel. Yeah Shawn is great, but love Chris Kelly too.

I also watch Gold Rush, white water (Fred's my favorite of all), Aussie gold hunters, and outback opal hunters.
Chris Kelly gets the trophy for best comebacks:clap:

All sorts of shit happens and he has the most amazing 'stick to-edness' he never gets bummed or quits..he spins; life happens..remember the fire that ruined the rest of his season?

That is how life is, he found the secret..lemonade out of lemons..you really have to live your life that way..everyone has plans but plans don't always go 'as planned'.
 

schuylaar

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So you don't think the number of sexual assaults against women will increase with unisex washrooms? Men are far less civilized than you think, its why women don't walk alone at night, we go with what we got, not what we want and there are less than nefarious reasons for it. Impugning motives to me does not help your case, but your idea causes harm to women on a large scale IMHO. There may come a time when such things are common, but our society is not ready for them yet, though they are appropriate in certain settings.

The idea here is public safety for women and not much else, I don't care who uses what washroom or if there are condom and tampon dispensing machines in both, or just one washroom. We only prosecute a small fraction of the sexual assaults now (there is no rape in Canada) and if we can contrive circumstances where they are avoided, so much the better and when they do happen, make those responsible accountable.
They already have them here in Walmart, Target. They have mens, ladies and unisex. The unisex is one room. The mens and ladies have multiple stalls.
 

Sativied

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Ah and of course Freddy Dodge's Mine Rescue and Dave Turin's Lost Mine. I sometimes joke Dave is my favorite christian. It's a thing I do with my wife, 'what's your favorite [fill in something bad/you don't like]'? He seems like a very decent guy.

All sorts of shit happens and he has the most amazing 'stick to-edness' he never gets bummed or quits..he spins; life happens..remember the fire that ruined the rest of his season?

That is how life is, he found the secret..lemonade out of lemons..you really have to live your life that way..everyone has plans but plans don't always go 'as planned'.
Sums up perfectly why I like him.
 
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