Hydro vs soil

ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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T.H.Cammo said:
Please explain your reply. Coco is hydro because it provides no nutrients; in that respect it is hydro.
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Yes, that means it must have nutrients that are immediately available to plants, not like what you can do with soil. You water coco with the same nutrients you would fill a res with

Rockwool is hydroponic, hydroton is hydroponic, peat can be used hydroponic...
 
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ec121

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T.H.Cammo said:
Please explain your reply. Coco is hydro because it provides no nutrients; in that respect it is hydro.
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I mean that the most optimal way to use coco is by implementing high-frequency fertigation; that is, keeping the coco at 90%+ saturation at all times. That would be hydroponic because the coco is literally functioning as a means to keep the plant from falling over.

However, it is also possible to fertigate coco until fully saturated and then wait like 5 days later until the medium is dry and then fertigate until it is fully saturated again and keep doing a wet/dry cycle throughout. You can call that hydroponic because the medium is inert, but I wouldn't.

Doing a wet/dry strategy isn't optimal because the salts will build up and require flushing, whereas always keeping the coco moist and proprerly fertigating to runoff each time will keep the root zone EC consistent and never require any flushing. It also won't grow as quickly as treating it as hydro will.

My smiley face was because many people water coco using a dry/wet cycle and always talk about overwatering. They might as well grow in a soil-based medium because they are not taking full advantage of the benefits of coco, hence "if used properly" in my response.
 
White.Black

White.Black

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I like hydro because it requires attention to detail, its clean... And its fun. You have to be on top of it.

They grow like crazy if you did your homework, and its very satisfying to see t grow in matter of few weeks.

I'm a noob and i never grew cannaibis in soil, but i think the choice depends on what kind of a person you are.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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White.Black said:
I like hydro because it requires attention to detail, its clean... And its fun. You have to be on top of it.

They grow like crazy if you did your homework, and its very satisfying to see t grow in matter of few weeks.

I'm a noob and i never grew cannaibis in soil, but i think the choice depends on what kind of a person you are.
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No offense, but it looks like it wants more attention.

4x2x5 tent and hydroponics w scrog

Hello. So after 3 months of work on my plant which turned out to be a hermie AND re-vegged due to, apparently, Nitrogen overdose + stress from stretching into LEDs and burning, I decided to cut her. I opened the tent after 3 days of not touching it, and the seeds were everywhere. Pollen...
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White.Black

White.Black

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PadawanWarrior said:
No offense, but it looks like it wants more attention.

4x2x5 tent and hydroponics w scrog

Hello. So after 3 months of work on my plant which turned out to be a hermie AND re-vegged due to, apparently, Nitrogen overdose + stress from stretching into LEDs and burning, I decided to cut her. I opened the tent after 3 days of not touching it, and the seeds were everywhere. Pollen...
www.rollitup.org
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Exactly. Now i'm on my second grow in hydro, and i realize what mistakes i made, and will not repeat them. Might make different ones tho.

Will make a journal for the second grow. Now its still in seedling stage, so soon.

It's so fun.
 
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xX24nuggetsXx

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ec121 said:
I mean that the most optimal way to use coco is by implementing high-frequency fertigation; that is, keeping the coco at 90%+ saturation at all times. That would be hydroponic because the coco is literally functioning as a means to keep the plant from falling over.

However, it is also possible to fertigate coco until fully saturated and then wait like 5 days later until the medium is dry and then fertigate until it is fully saturated again and keep doing a wet/dry cycle throughout. You can call that hydroponic because the medium is inert, but I wouldn't.

Doing a wet/dry strategy isn't optimal because the salts will build up and require flushing, whereas always keeping the coco moist and proprerly fertigating to runoff each time will keep the root zone EC consistent and never require any flushing. It also won't grow as quickly as treating it as hydro will.

My smiley face was because many people water coco using a dry/wet cycle and always talk about overwatering. They might as well grow in a soil-based medium because they are not taking full advantage of the benefits of coco, hence "if used properly" in my response.
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very informative answer! I’m definitely not watering enough then as I’m allowing for coco to mostly dry out then give them a heavy water again I haven’t seemed to run into any issues with salt build up of yet but will definitely keep an eye out for it.
 
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xX24nuggetsXx

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White.Black said:
I like hydro because it requires attention to detail, its clean... And its fun. You have to be on top of it.

They grow like crazy if you did your homework, and its very satisfying to see t grow in matter of few weeks.

I'm a noob and i never grew cannaibis in soil, but i think the choice depends on what kind of a person you are.
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yeah it definitely looks fun and although I haven’t grown hydro I feel like the final outcome would be more enjoyable if done right. I’ll definitely be giving it a go on the future
 
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ec121

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xX24nuggetsXx said:
very informative answer! I’m definitely not watering enough then as I’m allowing for coco to mostly dry out then give them a heavy water again I haven’t seemed to run into any issues with salt build up of yet but will definitely keep an eye out for it.
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You should be feeding daily at least once. High-frequency fertigation coco is nearly foolproof: water each day at lights on to 10-20% runoff, make sure you calibrate your pH pen each week, monitor your outflow EC, and use a microbial.
 
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xX24nuggetsXx

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ProPheT 216 said:
I feel like this thread is the blind leading the blind
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Are you implying that you’re unsure of what your saying as well as you seemed to comment earlier though so it’s kinda contradicting of you to sit there and say that no one in here really knows what there saying but yet you had an input? I’m not mad or having a go at you I just don’t understand your point?
 
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