Foxfarm
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Gentlemencorpse
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Foxfarm is a brand. What specific products are you talking about?
Kerowacked
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Yes
Coldnasty
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And with pretty good results in spite of all the crap you read here…..
Kerowacked
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It is what it is, the soils and nutes are formulated for cannabis. I’m sure there are better and worse. I start with frog and uppot to forest, triple pack of nutes, extra perlite and try not to overwater.
PadawanWarrior
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You don't have to give CalMag at every feeding. You could actually screw it up like that. It depends on your water and nutrients.
With collected rain water, and whitney farms soil (last year) and miracle grow in ground soil this year, the plants I had needed it with every feed. (Durban poison last year, dream queen this year). It will vary from strain to plant to grow site, tack it on to your shopping list and see what your plant needs
I just have the ocean forest soil and I'm ordering the nutes in a few days but I wasn't sure if I could use this soil for my whole grow
Gentlemencorpse
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Yes, you absolutely can. Some people find Ocean Forest a little hot for seedlings but I've used it with no issue plenty of times.
Budzbuddha
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Yes ….. you can run your plants in it alone . It can feed upfront for weeks before some depletion will show ( strain dependent ).
No special water either - Tap water. Ocean forest is amended with oyster shell and will buffer it just fine. Or can range your tap water ( checking your ph with meter to know where yours fall ) then adjust to ( 6.5-6.7 allowing for drift ) then water in.
Not rocket science. FFOF soil ranges around 6.3 from bag but I have thrown 7.2 ph straight cali water without ph adjusting and all is fine.
‘But now noticed that if I “ range “ the water to match medium , buffering lasts much longer. FFOF can be top dressed and watered in to recharge your container grows - it simply brings back what the plant has used plus there is less issues because plant is already acclimated to this soil and the chances of over feeding ‘ burning is greatly reduced. I can run a soil only grow thru veg ( top dressing at intervals) up to desired flip , say 6-8 week veg on this soil alone - then either continue top dressing thru flower or a dry bloom fert scratched into top soil of container.
Flower girl , Megacrop , Recipe 420 recharge , Happy frog fruit and flower , jack’s …. Etc.
FFOF is always overthought - consider this soil like a super soil - hot upfront but plants will acclimate. Think slipping into hot tub then adjusting to heat after awhile . Too many growers fuck up by adding even more nutes on top of this soil before plant at least gets to exhaust it.
GL
PadawanWarrior
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Jacks?
Budzbuddha
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I meant the nute line overall not meaning dry dumping.
Budzbuddha
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Noticed how I avoided mentioning fox farm‘s own bottled nute or powdered line - OP could do much better with another company’s line like Jack’s or even GH if wishing to do liquid feeds.
Budzbuddha
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I mean seriously …. Take Beastie Bloom 0-50-30
That is insane pk numbers and just bs snake oil. Not only the excess it is heavily dyed powder.
I thought MOAB was high but shit even an 1/8 dose is still plenty.
That is insane pk numbers and just bs snake oil. Not only the excess it is heavily dyed powder.
I thought MOAB was high but shit even an 1/8 dose is still plenty.
PadawanWarrior
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Don't know who you're talking to. But you say treat it like super soil, then you want to add a bunch of salts?
Budzbuddha
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no … what I am saying think of it being a already charged super soil …. Let plants exhaust it alone at its own pace . Then you can either “ recharge “ it or run another nute line in it over FF standard nutes. I mentioned Beastie to highlight the ridiculous nature of fox farm supplements to grow one plant when the SOIL alone can do plenty without ever buying their bottled nutes or magic powders. The only product worth getting out of any bottle is the Big Bloom ( micronutrients / trace minerals ) for the myco in soil. That is it.
Also this soil can be used in a layered container mix ……. Bottom 1/3rd of container ( charged ) and remainder of container top filled with mild or regular potting soil . This is another simple way to run this soil. But most should be aware there appears to be regional batch differences around country.
Heard of “ dirty bags “ floating out there. Some growers screen bags then tote store it.
PadawanWarrior
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Ya it bugs me they sell decent soil and then people add all their salty shit.
Big Bloom is the only Padawan approved liquid FF nute,
They have some decent dry organic amendments though.
Budzbuddha
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I might babble a bit on this subject , so forgive me . I am torching up some SSH and am in a good mood.
Fox Farm ocean forest is one of the most nute dense bagged mediums out there but it can be improved.
Add 25-30% more perlite , rice hulls or pumice.
Add more Myco .
Add EWC - actually add EWC to any bagged soil.
Optional : ADD Neem meal ( soil conditioner / pest control )
Mix it all and use. Soil can be re-used in solo cups for new seed germinations too.
You can even “ cut it “ with a 50/50 mix of Promix or other peat based ( black magic / Kellogg’s / whatever ).
You can make a tea with it. ( directions even on bag ) for soil drenching the. Use the steeped soil from cheesecloth for example in a new seed cup.
It’s a little better than most will admit .
Fox Farm ocean forest is one of the most nute dense bagged mediums out there but it can be improved.
Add 25-30% more perlite , rice hulls or pumice.
Add more Myco .
Add EWC - actually add EWC to any bagged soil.
Optional : ADD Neem meal ( soil conditioner / pest control )
Mix it all and use. Soil can be re-used in solo cups for new seed germinations too.
You can even “ cut it “ with a 50/50 mix of Promix or other peat based ( black magic / Kellogg’s / whatever ).
You can make a tea with it. ( directions even on bag ) for soil drenching the. Use the steeped soil from cheesecloth for example in a new seed cup.
It’s a little better than most will admit .
PadawanWarrior
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Or you can turn it into no-till,
