Another Republican President, Another Recession.

hanimmal

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Great speech.


It is hard sometimes to remember just how bad it was in 2020.

With everything Trump and the Regressive Republicans had thrown at us to distract us from the mess they left to fester, that Biden and the Democrats have once again had to step in and fix (only to be trolled nonstop in the hopes that their Tea Party 2.0 scam works out for them to keep the richest from having to pay taxes), things like the miles of food lines get forgotten about.

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hanimmal

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It will be interesting how much of the coverage of another jobs report crushing the negative narratives leading up to them is spent talking about the good things like rising wages (5.1%) that are not something that will drop when prices start decreasing, that all the bullshit recession talk that is trying to brainwash us into one still is not reality, and we are finally out of the job loss hole that Trump and the Republicans left us with their shit handling of the pandemic with more people now employed than every before in American history.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — America’s employers shrugged off high inflation and weakening growth to add 372,000 jobs in June, a surprisingly strong gain that will likely spur the Federal Reserve to keep sharply raising interest rates to cool the economy and slow price increases.

The unemployment rate in June remained at 3.6% for a fourth straight month, the Labor Department said Friday, matching a near-50-year low that was reached before the pandemic struck in early 2020.

The past year’s streak of robust hiring has been good for job seekers and has led to higher pay for many employees. But it has also helped fuel the highest inflation in four decades and heightened pressure on the Fed to further slow borrowing and spending.

Many employers are still struggling to fill jobs, especially in the economy’s vast service sector, with Americans now traveling, eating out and attending public events with much greater frequency. The Fed may regard the June job gain as evidence that the rapid pace of hiring is feeding inflation as companies raise pay to attract workers and then increase prices to cover their higher labor costs.

The Fed has already embarked on its fastest series of rate hikes since the 1980s, and further large increases would making borrowing much costlier for consumers and businesses and increase the risk of a recession.

The persistent desire of many businesses to hire and grow is providing a bulwark against the likelihood that the economy will tip into recession over the next year. Even if a downturn does occur, the healthy job and pay growth of the past year could help keep it relatively brief and mild.

For now, there are roughly two posted job openings for every unemployed worker. And the number of people seeking unemployment benefits — a proxy for layoffs and an early indicator of a downturn — remains far below historic averages, although it has ticked up recently.

At the same time, economic growth has been negative for two straight quarters, consumers are slowing their spending with inflation at a four-decade high and home sales have fallen as the Fed has jacked up borrowing costs.

And hiring could weaken in the coming months. The Fed wants job growth to slow, at least modestly, as part of its strenuous efforts to cool the economy and curb high inflation. The Biden administration, too, has sought to portray any pullback in hiring as part of a welcome transition to a more sustainable economy that will help keep inflation down.

But the transition to a more sustainable pace of growth and hiring is likely to be a bumpy one. If, for example, the Fed’s rate cuts end up slowing growth too much, as many analysts fear, the economy could slide into a recession by next year. Already, signs of a slowdown are evident. In May, consumer spending, adjusted for inflation, fell for the first time since December. Sales of existing homes have fallen nearly 9% compared with a year ago.

And some companies are announcing layoffs, or have paused hiring. In particular, several large retailers, including Walmart and Amazon, have said they over-hired during the pandemic, with Walmart reducing its headcount by attrition.

Tesla is cutting about 3.5% of its total headcount. Netflix has laid off about 450 employees after it reported losing subscribers for the first time in more than a decade. The online automotive retailer Carvana and real estate companies Redfin and Compass have also announced job cuts.

Fed Chair Jerome Powell has held out hope that the economy will continue to expand even as the central bank raises borrowing costs at its fastest pace since the late 1980s. But Powell has also acknowledged that overseas factors, such as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has elevated gas and food prices, will make it difficult to avoid a recession.

Last month, he conceded that a recession “is not our intended outcome but it’s certainly a possibility.”

The job market has recovered much more rapidly from the pandemic recession than it did after previous downturns.
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hanimmal

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And now here we are one full year out, and the inevitable far right propagandist are crying about inflation (ignoring that the national income has increased by a larger amount and that under Biden's presidency the massive job losses that were led by Trump's shit handling of the pandemic has been cleaned up). Because they are parroting the narrative that the wealthy want out there to scaremonger people into not demanding higher prices for their labor.

And just as we start to move out of the inflationary lows of 2021 (around May-June), cue the Republican's savior of Putin to threaten to start a war that will cause the gas prices to soar even higher than the artificially held lows in Trump's final year in office.

So while you might pretend like this thread is not 'aged well', you are wrong. This Tea Party 2.0 inflationary snow flaking to try to sink the Democratic agenda which has once again saved the American workers from a Republican recession is exactly why I made it almost 2 years ago. Because the right wing hate mongers paying the militarized trolls (foreign and domestic) are very predictable, and right now are trying like hell to rewrite history once again to help the Republicans win back enough power in DC to make sure that the mega rich can get away with not paying taxes for another generation.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Surging prices for gas, food and rent catapulted U.S. inflation to a new four-decade peak in June, further pressuring households and likely sealing the case for another large interest rate hike by the Federal Reserve, with higher borrowing costs to follow.

Consumer prices soared 9.1% compared with a year earlier, the government said Wednesday, the biggest yearly increase since 1981, and up from an 8.6% jump in May. On a monthly basis, prices rose 1.3% from May to June, another substantial increase, after prices had jumped 1% from April to May.

The ongoing price increases underscore the brutal impact that inflation has inflicted on many families, with the costs of necessities, in particular, rising much faster than average incomes. Lower-income and Black and Hispanic Americans have been hit especially hard, because a disproportionate share of their income goes toward such essentials as housing, transportation and food.

Some economists have held out hope that inflation might be reaching or nearing a short-term peak. Gas prices, for example, have fallen from the eye-watering $5 a gallon reached in mid-June to an average of $4.63 nationwide Wednesday — still far higher than a year ago but a drop that could help slow inflation for July and possibly August.

In addition, shipping costs and commodity prices have begun to fall. Pay increases have slowed. And surveys show that Americans’ expectations for inflation over the long run have eased — a trend that often points to more moderate price increases over time.

Still, the breadth of the price gains shows how rising costs have seeped into nearly every corner of the economy. Grocery prices have jumped 12.2% compared with a year ago, the steepest such climb since 1979. Rents have risen 5.8%, the most since 1986. New car prices have increased 11.4% from a year earlier. And airline fares, one of the few items to post a price decline in June, are nevertheless up 34% from a year earlier.

From May to June, the cost of dental services surged 1.9%, the biggest one-month increase since record-keeping began in 1995.

The relentless spike in inflation has diminished consumers’ confidence in the economy, sent President Joe Biden’s approval ratings tumbling and posed a major political threat to Democrats in the November congressional elections. Forty percent of adults said in a June AP-NORC poll that they thought tackling inflation should be a top government priority this year, up from just 14% who said so in December.

In the immediate aftermath of the 2020 pandemic recession, as Americans focused their spending on items for the home, like furniture, appliances and exercise equipment, supply chains became overwhelmed and prices for physical goods soared. But as consumer spending has gradually shifted away from goods and toward services like vacation travel, restaurants meals, movies, concerts and sporting events, some of the highest price increases have occurred in services.

Housing costs have also risen sharply. A shortage of houses for sale has kept prices high just as mortgage rates have also soared.

With many people priced out of the market for houses and looking instead to rent, demand for apartments has sent rental rates beyond affordable levels. The average cost of new leases has jumped 14% in the past year, according to real estate brokerage Redfin, to an average of $2,016 a month.

Rents as measured by the government’s inflation index have risen more slowly because they include all rents, including existing leases. But economists expect the rising expense of new leases to send the government’s inflation measure higher in coming months.

The persistence of high inflation has unnerved Chair Jerome Powell and other Fed officials, who are engaged in the fastest series of rate hikes since the late 1980s to try to slow the price spikes. The central bank is expected to raise its key short-term rate later this month by a hefty three-quarters of a point, as it did last month, with potentially more large rate hikes to follow.

Powell has stressed that the central bank wants to see “compelling evidence” that inflation is slowing before it would dial back its rate hikes. Such evidence would need to be a “series of declining monthly inflation readings,” Powell said at a news conference last month.

Many economists worry that the Fed’s drive to quell inflation will cause it to tighten credit too aggressively even while the economy, by some measures, is slowing. Much higher borrowing costs could trigger a recession, potentially by next year.

Consumers have started to pull back on spending, home sales are falling as mortgage rates rise and factory output slipped in May. Yet steadily robust job growth points to an economy that is still expanding, with little sign of an imminent recession.

Though inflation may slow later this year, it’s not clear by how much. Oil prices fell Tuesday to about $96 a barrel. And other commodities, including metals such as copper, have also become less expensive, mostly because of recession fears in both the United States and Europe.

With fewer ships stuck at the Port of Los Angeles and Long Beach, America’s largest, shipping costs for international freight have fallen. Wholesale gas prices have fallen to about $3.40 a gallon, which suggests that retail prices could drop to as low as $4.20 by August, according to Omair Sharif, founder of Inflation Insights.

And wholesale used car prices are also falling, which point to declining used car prices in the coming months.

Inflation has spiked overseas as well. It reached 9.1% in the United Kingdom in May, the highest level in four decades, driven mostly by higher gas and food prices. Annual inflation in the eurozone’s 19 countries hit 8.6% in June, surging past the 8.1% recorded in May. Inflation is now at its highest level since recordkeeping for the euro began in 1997.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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"Some economists have held out hope that inflation might be reaching or nearing a short-term peak. Gas prices, for example, have fallen from the eye-watering $5 a gallon reached in mid-June to an average of $4.63 nationwide Wednesday — still far higher than a year ago but a drop that could help slow inflation for July and possibly August."

i'm about fed up with oil industry executives, it's about time to lynch a few of them, publicly. let the other price gouging profiteers see what the fuck is coming for them if they keep it up. right now they are a MAJOR reason for the inflation we're dealing with, while they keep raking in record profits...they could drop the prices to $3.00 a gallon and still be making good money, and not destroying the lives of poor people who are losing jobs, homes, vehicles because they can't keep up with inflation.
 

hanimmal

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"Some economists have held out hope that inflation might be reaching or nearing a short-term peak. Gas prices, for example, have fallen from the eye-watering $5 a gallon reached in mid-June to an average of $4.63 nationwide Wednesday — still far higher than a year ago but a drop that could help slow inflation for July and possibly August."

i'm about fed up with oil industry executives, it's about time to lynch a few of them, publicly. let the other price gouging profiteers see what the fuck is coming for them if they keep it up. right now they are a MAJOR reason for the inflation we're dealing with, while they keep raking in record profits...they could drop the prices to $3.00 a gallon and still be making good money, and not destroying the lives of poor people who are losing jobs, homes, vehicles because they can't keep up with inflation.
Not to mention all the corporations vacuuming up properties across the nation inflating rental rates pushing our citizens out of the market.

 

HGCC

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I wish they would stop calling it inflation. Prices are rising faster than wages, it isnt like the money is leaving. Its not some mystery economic force at work. Prices increase so the companies make more money, they aren't paying out higher labor costs, so they get to make more money but are paying labor the same. Labor then has to use that same old amount of money to buy the more expensive goods.

But no, let's blame biden. The guy in his truck heard from his cousin its their fault, not the people holding the bag of money that has gotten larger proportionally to the amount they increased prices.
 

hanimmal

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NEW YORK (AP) — Consumers picked up their spending from May to June, underscoring their resilience despite painfully higher prices at the gas pump and in grocery aisles and allaying fears that the economy might be on the verge of a recession.

U.S. retail sales rose 1% in June, from a revised decline of 0.1 % in May, the Commerce Department said Friday.

The figures aren’t adjusted for inflation and so largely reflect higher prices, particularly for gas. But they also show that consumers are still providing crucial support for the economy and spending on such discretionary items as furniture, restaurant meals and sporting goods.

At the same time, last month’s spending gain is modest enough that it likely won’t encourage the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates even more aggressively. Stock prices rose after the report’s release.

“People did not fold in the face of the Ukraine shock and the subsequent surge in food and energy prices,” said Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics. “Instead, they ran down a small part of their pandemic savings in order to keep up their discretionary spending.”

Consumers still have significant savings, on average, bolstered by pandemic-era government relief checks and strong hiring and pay gains. JPMorgan executives said Thursday that their customers are still breaking out their credit and debit cards at a healthy pace.

Kathy Bostjancic, chief U.S. economist at Oxford Economics, said that excluding inflation, retail sales still rose about 0.3% in June, up from a contraction of 0.4% in May. She expects the economy to grow at a slim 0.5% annual rate in the April-June quarter, after shrinking in the first three months of the year.

The report showed consumers’ ongoing appetite for non-essentials like gadgets and furniture. In fact, sales at furniture stores rose 1.4%, while consumer electronics stores rose 0.4%. Online sales showed resurgence, posting a 2.2% increase. Business at restaurants was up 1%. But department stores took a hit, posting a 2.6% decline.

The solid figures bold well for the back-to-school shopping season, the second largest sales period behind the winter holidays. Mastercard SpendingPulse, which tracks spending across all payment forms including cash, forecasts that back-to-school spending will be up 7.5% from July 14 through Sept. 5 compared with the year-ago period when sales rose 11%.

But spending is volatile. The latest round of retail earnings reports released in May showed some slowing of spending, particularly with low-income shoppers. RH, an upscale furniture chain, cut it sales outlook for the year last last month, pointing to deteriorating macro-economic conditions. It cited higher mortgage rates, which are slowing sales of luxury homes, indicating that even wealthy shoppers are pulling back.

Nevertheless, the overall solid spending came even as shoppers were confronted with high prices in all areas. U.S. inflation surged to a new four-decade high in June because of rising prices for gas, food and rent, squeezing household budgets and pressuring the Fed to raise rates aggressively — trends that raise the risk of a recession.

The government’s consumer price index soared 9.1% in June compared with a year ago, the biggest yearly increase since 1981, with nearly half of the increase due to higher energy costs. The year-over-year leap in consumer prices last month followed an 8.6% annual jump in May. From May to June, prices rose 1.3%, following a 1% increase from April to May.

Some economists believe inflation might be reaching a short-term peak. Gas prices, for example, have fallen from $5 a gallon reached in mid-June to an average of $4.57 nationwide Thursday — still far higher than a year ago.

Arie Kotler, chairman, president and CEO of Arko Corp., one of the largest operators of convenience stores in the U.S., believes that if gas prices keep coming down “people will have more money in their pocket to spend inside the store.” The chain, located mostly in rural and small towns, continues to offer deals on coffee and food like $1.99 for a slice of pizza.

Accelerating inflation is a big problem for the Fed, too. The central bank is already involved in the fastest series of interest rate hikes in three decades, which it hopes will tame inflation by tamping down borrowing and spending by consumers and businesses.

The retail sales report covers about a third of overall consumer spending and doesn’t include services, such as haircuts, hotel stays and plane tickets.
 

hanimmal

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I really wish he would have also pointed out that there were millions out of work when Biden took over the presidency and that the Covid package that the Democrats passed had to shore up state and local governments (actually funding of the police which Republicans voted against) because Trump and the Republicans used their larger Covid bill as a giant grift.

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Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) offered Fox News host Maria Bartiromo a lesson in inflation on Sunday after she suggested that President Joe Biden was to blame.

In an interview on Fox News, Bartiromo told Khanna that Covid-19 legislation signed into law by Biden "was the beginning of inflation getting stoked."

"Maria, just to be factual on inflation," Khanna replied, "there was $3 trillion of spending under President Trump. And yes, there was spending under Joe Biden. But it is unfair to say that it's just the spending under Biden that somehow caused the inflation and not under Trump."

Bartiromo interrupted: "Just to be clear, I'm looking specifically at the numbers and when we look at the inflation timeline, which was the handover from President Trump to President Biden. ... By the time that we got to July of 2021, inflation was at 5.5%. Then the Democrats led the infrastructure package. That was signed into law November 21 and inflation was up to 6.8%. By March of 2022, right after the invasion by Russia, inflation was at 7.9% and today we are 8.6%"

"So we're up to 9.1%, Congressman, with all of this spending," she said.

"But, Maria, you know correlation and causation are different," Khanna remarked. "You can't say that Trump sending stimulus checks in December of 2020 was not inflationary and somehow Biden doing in March was inflationary."

"What happened is we got out of Covid," he added. "And that increased demand and the supply was constrained and the Fed policy was wrong."


 

hanimmal

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The Senate passed a bipartisan bill Wednesday that would provide $52 billion in subsidies to domestic semiconductor manufacturers and invest billions in science and technology innovation, in a bid to strengthen the United States’ competitiveness and self-reliance in what is seen as a keystone industry for economic and national security.

In a 64-33 vote, the Senate passed the $280 billion “Chips and Science Act,” the final iteration of a bill that was years in the making. About $52 billion would go to microchip manufacturers to incentivize construction of domestic semiconductor fabrication plants — or “fabs” — to make the chips, which are used in a wide variety of products, including motor vehicles, cellphones, medical equipment and military weapons.
A shortage of semiconductor chips during the coronavirus pandemic has caused price hikes and supply-chain disruptions in several industries.

“This is one of the most significant, long-term-thinking bills we’ve passed in a very long time,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday. “I told our caucus yesterday that our grandchildren will hold good-paying jobs in industries we can’t even imagine because of what we are doing now. … This is going to go down as one of the major bipartisan achievements of this Congress.”

The bill also includes about $100 billion in authorizations over five years for programs such as expanding the National Science Foundation’s work and establishing regional technology hubs to support start-ups in areas of the country that haven’t traditionally drawn big funding for tech.

“These investments will go a long way in reversing the decline in federal [research and development] that has dropped threefold since 1978,” said Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), chair of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee. “And the more dispersed the innovation is, you never know where the next Bill Gates or Bill Boeing is going to be from and what innovation they might come up with.”

The bill next moves to the House, where Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has said it has support for passage. In a statement Wednesday, Pelosi praised the Senate’s passage of the bill as a “major victory for American families and the American economy,” and indicated the House would vote on the bill as early as Thursday.

President Biden has said the legislation is one of the top priorities on his agenda and called for Congress to get the bill to his desk as soon as possible. On Wednesday, he praised the bill as one answer to Americans’ worry about the state of the economy and cost of living.

“It will accelerate the manufacturing of semiconductors in America, lowering prices on everything from cars to dishwashers,” Biden said in a statement. “It also will create jobs — good-paying jobs right here in the United States. It will mean more resilient American supply chains, so we are never so reliant on foreign countries for the critical technologies that we need for American consumers and national security.”

In a White House meeting with business and labor leaders Monday, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo noted that the United States used to make 40 percent of the world’s chips but now makes about 12 percent — and “essentially none of the leading-edge chips,” which come almost entirely from Taiwan.

The United States has invested “nearly nothing” in semiconductor manufacturing, while China has invested $150 billion to build its domestic capacity, Raimondo said. She also said it was critical for the United States to be able to compete with countries around the world that have been providing subsidies to semiconductor companies to build factories.

“The chips funding will be the deciding factor on where those companies choose to expand,” Raimondo said. “We want them, we need them, to expand here in the United States.”

Included in the legislation are provisions that would prohibit companies from building most types of new semiconductor manufacturing facilities in China “or any other foreign country of concern” for a decade after receiving federal funding.

On Wednesday, Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), a key GOP negotiator on the legislation, argued that there was no more important competition than the one for “technological supremacy” between the United States and China.

“The outcome will shape the global balance of power for decades and will impact the security and prosperity of all Americans,” Wicker said.

“Regrettably, at this moment, we are not in the driver’s seat on a range of important technologies. China is. China and other nations are increasingly dominant in tech innovation, posing a massive threat to not only our economy but to our national security.”

The White House has also pointed to the semiconductor chip shortage as a national security issue. In an interview Tuesday with Washington Post Live, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), an original co-sponsor of the bill, said some senators joined a classified briefing a few weeks ago at which they learned about some of the geopolitical concerns the United States is facing.

“And it helped create a greater sense of urgency, I hope, in both the House and the Senate … to help everyone see how important and how urgent this is,” Sinema said. “The good news is that we were able to respond to that quickly. And I expect, by the end of the week, our bill is going to be on the president’s desk.”

The bill’s Senate passage Wednesday culminates a years-long quest by Schumer, who has long warned of the threat that China’s rise poses to U.S. global economic leadership and national security. Three years ago, Schumer started drafting a precursor bill with Sen. Todd C. Young (R-Ind.), and the legislation took a tortuous path to passage — undergoing at least five renamings and countless revisions before its passage Wednesday as “The Chips and Science Act of 2022.”

“The idea of investing in companies and in science had taken a back seat for the last 30 or 40 years, in part because Democrats didn’t want to help companies and Republicans said they don’t want industrial policy, just be laissez-faire,” Schumer said in an interview Wednesday. “It took a long time to convince people that this was so important and so necessary.”

Schumer and Young assembled a powerful panel of backers from outside politics, including corporate leaders and academic luminaries who helped build support for the legislation across party lines. Adding the semiconductor provisions, backed initially by Sens. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) and Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), further expanded the coalition behind the bill.

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cannabineer

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I really wish he would have also pointed out that there were millions out of work when Biden took over the presidency and that the Covid package that the Democrats passed had to shore up state and local governments (actually funding of the police which Republicans voted against) because Trump and the Republicans used their larger Covid bill as a giant grift.

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we got out of Covid?
 

hanimmal

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we got out of Covid?
At least mostly out of the hospitalization phase for the folks that are not brainwashed enough into the death cult that are vaccinated.

Putin’s Law:
“don’t outsource strategic manufacture”.
-the Harde-Knox Academy
Well at least now we can build up these manufacturing sites using the latest/cleanest possible methods.

Hopefully. Post stupid SCOTUS decision on the EPA, I am not so sure atm.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
At least mostly out of the hospitalization phase for the folks that are not brainwashed enough into the death cult that are vaccinated.


Well at least now we can build up these manufacturing sites using the latest/cleanest possible methods.

Hopefully. Post stupid SCOTUS decision on the EPA, I am not so sure atm.
imo we are still hip deep in Covid. I’m hearing about more cases in people Ive listened to for a coupla months. Im gonna stay rigged for quiet dive until the vaccine update is available.

I have had two viral infections in the past months. Weird ones. One for the six weeks following 21/12/15, and one currently on week eight. Both tested negative twice - the first using drive-thru at the drug store on days eight and twenty-three, and the second, which went symptomatic on June 04. I used the government test sticks for that, one on day 1 late, very runny nose and that “shit it’s a flu” feeling. That and a retest on day 4 were slam-dunk negative.

The first one started with a dead ringer for allergic asthma; I’ve had hay fever since I can remember. Only it did not respond to reasonable doses of Benadryl. It got bad enough I’d’a seen a doctor, if there were one close. The Adventists want hundreds per visit (insert fiery jeremiad about having the worst healthcare in the G20 here) that I don’t have at the moment.

anywho, there were days when I doubted I could catch my breath lying on my back. It slowly decayed into my rather phlegmy noise floor.

June 04 was 5 days after I sat in a group. First time unmasked in 26 months. Started with that bad old feeling in my nasopharynx, then fever (up to 102 on days 1and 2 and 99.x on days 7 and 8. It went into my chest from there and behaved as above. Symptoms seemed gone 3 weeks ago Wednesday, which was welcome as my dad (92 in a week!) and his gf (a smokeshow for 86ya) stayed Friday thru Sunday.
Last Wednesday (visit plus ten) the phlegm and shortness of breath came back. I am noticing mental lapses of new sorts, seriously reduced pulmonary exchange rates, weird little sensorimotor miscues. I can still smell and taste things, but theyre subtly wrong. I keep spuriously smelling dog poo. But I have had taste/smell perversions for decades, so ~shrug~

I scheduled a drive-thru PCR test for tomorrow. I wonder. My sister reported lotsa weird flu down by her in GA. But the persistence and nature of the symptoms has me wondering if this is the new hotness. If so, I got hit twice in what feels like rapid succession.

So I am masking religiously once again, maintaining alert until I’ve had the update vaccine.
 

Oldone57

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The Left continues to lie, its Biden's economy. None of his policies are to help Americans. They are stupid enough to think they can spend their way out of a recession. We were doing just fine being the #1 producer of oil and natural gas. simple economics. Would you stop growing, to buy from the dispensary? Would that be more economical for you?
 

Herb & Suds

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The Left continues to lie, its Biden's economy. None of his policies are to help Americans. They are stupid enough to think they can spend their way out of a recession. We were doing just fine being the #1 producer of oil and natural gas. simple economics. Would you stop growing, to buy from the dispensary? Would that be more economical for you?
You better stick to Truth Social
Americans are done with the cult
 

hanimmal

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The Left continues to lie, its Biden's economy. None of his policies are to help Americans.
Really? I don't disagree that Biden is the one in charge of our nation, and that at the end of the day, everything that is happening right now falls into his lap to deal with. But I call bullshit on you knowing enough about the policies that have passed to say what you do.

Shit just last night another bi-partisan bill got passed by the senate to boost chip manufacturing, you don't think that is a good thing?

It might not be enough to stop the federal reserve from slowing down our economy to the point that we don't tip into a recession in order to stop the inflation caused by gas companies record profits, China reducing their production, and the post-pandemic log jams in our supply chains, but in reading through all the bills Biden has gotten signed into law, I strongly disagree with you saying that 'none of his policies are to help Americans'.

I think it is actually pretty naive.

They are stupid enough to think they can spend their way out of a recession.
There is 'spending' (like Trump's $2.1 trillion Covid bill in 2020 that was full of fraud and left states/local government (i.e. police and fire fighting) high and dry) and then there is 'spending' (Biden's $1.9 that had to plug all the holes in the vaccine rollout, local government funding, etc). Just giving tax cuts to the mega wealthy like Trump and the Republicans only other major legislation did is not going to help in a economic contraction that comes in a recession, and it doesn't make the nation stronger in the long run either.

Using government funding to fix and modernize our infrastructure (like Biden's infrastructure bill is doing and will continue to do over the next decade) will help reduce costs and help bring more people into the economy that otherwise would have been left out due to things like not having great access to the internet. Also all those jobs provide much needed income that goes into the neighborhoods that those people live which helps stabilize stores and local businesses.



We were doing just fine being the #1 producer of oil and natural gas. simple economics. Would you stop growing, to buy from the dispensary? Would that be more economical for you?
Are you a real person, or just another troll?

I only ask because it is obvious from the data, and Trump's own mouth when this attack on our pocketbooks in the form of decreased oil production occurred. And it had nothing to do with the Democrats, other than maybe these right wing fascists knowing Trump was going to lose the election and were trying like hell to attack our economy starting in Trump's final year in office.

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They are stupid enough to think they can spend their way out of a recession.
Wasn’t that Reagan’s exact plan and action? Voodoo economics is a solid GOP franchise. And seesawing property prices allowed the insiders to start buying up all the land.

For the last year the Repugs have acted like tier-1 rock stars tearing up hotels with their economic depredations.
The Democrats are the hotel staff who clean and fix it all ‘til the next rock monster tears it all up again. The graphs of deficit and debt for R and D administrations show it pretty plainly.

The inflection point is Nixon/Ford. After that, GOP fiscal sluttery alternated with Democrats trying to fix stuff while Rs in Congress adopted a default move of “block all D social spending” because the Democrats were putting out all the figurative wildfires the Rs were using to whip up their base do do what they almost did over 18 months ago.

Reagan deliberately gave the economy an overdose of meth. The Pugs enjoyed twelve years of an overhot economy and handed it off just as the bad effects began. This was a complete departure from when conservatives worked for all of us, which we last saw under Eisenhower.

Interesting that you embrace the overthrow party’s new blockbuster (in their coke delusion) weasel tactic: blame the victims. That man cuts $2T out of thin air for Fortune 500 Welfare, then has the double-barreled gall to

-blame the fixit party for his inflation
-accuse the Ds of stupid spending when it goes to people (the wrong people; money will make’m uppity) and not the ecclesiastic-industrial complex that’ll finally “restore freedom” and not stop til we are a theocracy. Trump would have schmoozed the ayatollahs in order to learn their methods. He had to settle for the house of Sa’ud and the lesser tyranny of Kim. He did schmooze Vladolf like a starving tavern sex worker.

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hanimmal

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This is a pretty exciting sounding reconciliation bill especially when combined with the chip's bill.

 
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