Is senessence required for a smooth smoke?

[TrentSteel]

A healthy plant is a good one. No reason to have a dead plant at harvest. Some show lots of cool colors cuz of colorful genetics or because their growers flush at the end forcing fall colors to come out real fast before harvest. But if your plant is dieing on its own your not doing it right.

Regarding flushing no matter how much water goes thru the plant in its last week its not gonna change what it was grown out of. Worry less about flushing and more about good nutrients. A final feed with just water should be sufficient

Marajuana is an annual plant, will it not start dying near its end of flower?...

Senescence - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

If this is what happens at the end of the flowering cycle it sounds a lot like dying to me.

 

[Kushash]

Yea, they were free seeds my buddy won at a contest through ILGM, I really don't have much confidence in that company. I've google searched purple haze on many difference sources all of which state 8-9 weeks.
Youve already posted and told me that black ash is from incomplete combustion. I'm trying to figure out why... Could there not be multiple reasons for this?
Not sure what your referring to when you use the word "hybrid" but yes it is 60% sativa, not even sure if it is considered a "true haze"

People who read breeders information will "think" they will get a great day time sativa/haze highs from a 9 / 10 week strain.
Experienced growers who have grown strains ranging from 13 / 16 weeks will "know" differently.

 

[TrentSteel]

People who read breeders information will "think" they will get a great day time sativa/haze highs from a 9 / 10 week strain.
Experienced growers who have grown strains ranging from 13 / 16 weeks will "know" differently.

Lol, yes. I didn't plan on growing some Congolese for my 2nd LSO run.

 

[xtsho]

Yea, they were free seeds my buddy won at a contest through ILGM, I really don't have much confidence in that company. I've google searched purple haze on many difference sources all of which state 8-9 weeks.
Youve already posted and told me that black ash is from incomplete combustion. I'm trying to figure out why... Could there not be multiple reasons for this?

Whatever they call it the plants still looked good. All those different sources stating 8-9 weeks are all just calling purple hybrids Purple Haze. These days names don't really mean anything. It's even says on ILGM's website that it's 30% indica. Same thing with all those other outfits. Most people think of the Jimi Hendrix song Purple Haze and think they're getting that legendary strain. It's just shady marketing tactics using a well know name to sell seeds of something that is completely different.

I don't know why your weed is so harsh. I harvest plants with green leaves all the time and feed right up until harvest. I dry the weed and it is smooth. I don't do all that burping stuff. I jar my weed as soon as it's dry. I smoke it right away. It tastes good and is smooth.

If you do cure and don't do it correctly it's possible for anaerobic bacteria to grow which can lead to harsh poor tasting weed. I don't know if that's the case but it's something that can happen.

 

[waterproof808]

Harvested too early, then jarred too early.

 

[TrentSteel]

Whatever they call it the plants still looked good. All those different sources stating 8-9 weeks are all just calling purple hybrids Purple Haze. These days names don't really mean anything. It's even says on ILGM's website that it's 30% indica. Same thing with all those other outfits. Most people think of the Jimi Hendrix song Purple Haze and think they're getting that legendary strain. It's just shady marketing tactics using a well know name to sell seeds of something that is completely different.

I don't know why your weed is so harsh. I harvest plants with green leaves all the time and feed right up until harvest. I dry the weed and it is smooth. I don't do all that burping stuff. I jar my weed as soon as it's dry. I smoke it right away. It tastes good and is smooth.

If you do cure and don't do it correctly it's possible for anaerobic bacteria to grow which can lead to harsh poor tasting weed. I don't know if that's the case but it's something that can happen.

I'm not sure what your saying you think purple haze should be 100% sativa?

I am sure mine is not the Original "purple haze", if that strain can even be found. Which is why I wasn't expecting an 11-13 week grow.

Whatever it is, it definetly has haze in it sort of an unmistakable terpene profile.

I honestly felt like 8-9 weeks was short for any haze genetics but tough to trust myself over 5+ sources when I had little experience.

All the info. I read on purple haze say it should be an all day hybrid type smoke, I am sure they are referring to what is being passed around as "purple haze" in the modern day. Too many original genetics that can't be acquired these days.

 

[xtsho]

I'm not sure what your saying you think purple haze should be 100% sativa?

I am sure mine is not the Original "purple haze", if that strain can even be found. Which is why I wasn't expecting an 11-13 week grow.

Whatever it is, it definetly has haze in it sort of an unmistakable terpene profile.

I honestly felt like 8-9 weeks was short for any haze genetics but tough to trust myself over 5+ sources when I had little experience.

Yes

 

[TrentSteel]

Yes

Lol, ok but it's my 2nd LSO grow I'm not growing some ultra rare genetics that don't even come in seed form, my bad I edited my last reply.
You are right but assuming I acquired the original seems a little far fetched.

Is haze not 90% sativa?

 

[PJ Diaz]

Whatever they call it the plants still looked good. All those different sources stating 8-9 weeks are all just calling purple hybrids Purple Haze. These days names don't really mean anything. It's even says on ILGM's website that it's 30% indica. Same thing with all those other outfits. Most people think of the Jimi Hendrix song Purple Haze and think they're getting that legendary strain. It's just shady marketing tactics using a well know name to sell seeds of something that is completely different.

I don't know why your weed is so harsh. I harvest plants with green leaves all the time and feed right up until harvest. I dry the weed and it is smooth. I don't do all that burping stuff. I jar my weed as soon as it's dry. I smoke it right away. It tastes good and is smooth.

If you do cure and don't do it correctly it's possible for anaerobic bacteria to grow which can lead to harsh poor tasting weed. I don't know if that's the case but it's something that can happen.

I'm not sure what your saying you think purple haze should be 100% sativa?

I am sure mine is not the Original "purple haze", if that strain can even be found. Which is why I wasn't expecting an 11-13 week grow.

Whatever it is, it definetly has haze in it sort of an unmistakable terpene profile.

I honestly felt like 8-9 weeks was short for any haze genetics but tough to trust myself over 5+ sources when I had little experience.

All the info. I read on purple haze say it should be an all day hybrid type smoke, I am sure they are referring to what is being passed around as "purple haze" in the modern day. Too many original genetics that can't be acquired these days.

Purple Haze wasn't even a strain back when Jimi was singing about it, that song was about acid not cannabis. Breeders later lifted the name as a marketing ploy. That said, IMO if you are calling something a "haze" it shouldn't be 30% Indica.

 

[TrentSteel]

I'm getting a little side tracked now but how come online sources will refer to stains as 100% indica (pink death star, Mike Tyson OG), when they clearly contain some sativa genetics. I mean I know different phenotypes will lean harder one way or another but how do you just negate the fact it contains sativa genes and call it 100% indica?

 

[xtsho]

Purple Haze wasn't even a strain back when Jimi was singing about it, that song was about acid not cannabis. Breeders later lifted the name as a marketing ploy. That said, IMO if you are calling something a "haze" it shouldn't be 30% Indica.

I was still playing with Lincoln Logs when Jimi was singing that song so I really don't know. I do know that Haze is 100% sativa like you said. There is a purple pheno of Oldtimers Haze though. I'd consider that Purple Haze over some random cross of a sativa with a purple indica that flowers in 8-9 weeks.

 

[TrentSteel]

I was still playing with Lincoln Logs when Jimi was singing that song so I really don't know. I do know that Haze is 100% sativa like you said. There is a purple pheno of Oldtimers Haze though. I'd consider that Purple Haze over some random cross of a sativa with a purple indica that flowers in 8-9 weeks.

Do you not believe the common theory that the modern day purple haze is haze x purple thai cross? It does seem more likely that it would be an indica or shorter flowering strain crossed with the haze.

 

[xtsho]

I'm getting a little side tracked now but how come online sources will refer to stains as 100% indica (pink death star, Mike Tyson OG), when they clearly contain some sativa genetics. I mean I know different phenotypes will lean harder one way or another but how do you just negate the fact it contains sativa genes and call it 100% indica?

Many just throw whatever into the description or if it's mostly indica they call it an indica. You can't rely on what most of the seed outfits say. They claim X amount of THC so if they know how much THC there is they must have had it tested. If they tested it then why don't they provide the results on the webpage with the description? They're just using random numbers. If it takes 10-11 weeks to flower they'll say 8-9 like everyone else because so many use flowering times as one of the factors when deciding what to buy.

All you can really do these days is get something decent and grow it as good as you can. Much of what you read regarding cannabis is not accurate. There are so many people trying to get into the seed game and make some money that anything goes and anything can be claimed regardless of the truth.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I was still playing with Lincoln Logs when Jimi was singing that song so I really don't know. I do know that Haze is 100% sativa like you said. There is a purple pheno of Oldtimers Haze though. I'd consider that Purple Haze over some random cross of a sativa with a purple indica that flowers in 8-9 weeks.

You must be pushing 70.

 

[xtsho]

Do you not believe the common theory that the modern day purple haze is haze x purple thai cross? It does seem more likely that it would be an indica or shorter flowering strain crossed with the haze.

It can be whatever anyone wants it to be. It's just a name which means nothing these days. Hell I have an Oldtimers Haze/Pakistani Chitral Kush cross. I haven't grown any yet but I can almost guarantee it will be purple. I can call that Purple Haze all day long just like everyone else doing the same thing.

 

[xtsho]

You must be pushing 70.

Not even close.

 

[TrentSteel]

Many just throw whatever into the description or if it's mostly indica they call it an indica. You can't rely on what most of the seed outfits say.

But haze is 100% sativa even though it contains afghani?

 

[xtsho]

But haze is 100% sativa even though it contains afghani?

Who said Haze has Afghani in it's lineage? I don't know what people are calling what these days.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Not even close.

Oh, just assumed you were in your 60's since Purple Haze was released in 1967.

He's buried in my hometown.

 

[TrentSteel]

Who said Haze has Afghani in it's lineage? I don't know what people are calling what these days.

Oops, I apologize not sure where I got confused maybe I was thinking red congo.
Anyways I have always read it was 90% sativa, allbud states 80% sativa but I don't trust them fully. I got faith in seedfinder but they have so many original haze, is the original from apothecary genetics. Genetic info. is so murky.