Breeders flowering timeframe: indoor and outdoor plus when you start counting

[obijohn]

You always see a set amount of weeks for various strains to complete flowering. Is this the same whether it's indoors or outdoors?

Someone told me once (may have been here) that you start the countdown when you change the light cycle to 12/12. That makes no sense IMO, and even if true would not apply outdoors, It takes several weeks after changing light cycles to see white hairs/buds to start, which is actual flowering, The weeks in between are just a transition while the flowering hormone builds up

 

[ooof-da]

it seems so influenced by the strain and conditions (like you in SAC outdoor and someone in NY indoor) that I just go by the end, not when to start counting, which I don’t know how or do. I know it’s somewhere in NOV for me growing sativas outdoors, but still could be the 3rd or could be the 13th or the 23rd. seems to me the counting is more for indoor cause at least you have some consistency in light schedule no matter what lat/long?

 

[conor c]

You start counting once you see flowers forming imo i know some count from 12/12 from the start but not me and its ready when its ready i dont put much stock in breeder times myself

 

[HydroKid239]

I start once flowers start forming.
This is what they look like when I start.
And if I start the “breeders estimate” it’s usually pretty close, or at least entering the window. If something is off much more than a week (other than for personal preference/more amber) I would be less likely to do another run with their gear. I’m indoor only. No harvests outdoor yet.

 

[Mechman60]

You always see a set amount of weeks for various strains to complete flowering. Is this the same whether it's indoors or outdoors?

Someone told me once (may have been here) that you start the countdown when you change the light cycle to 12/12. That makes no sense IMO, and even if true would not apply outdoors, It takes several weeks after changing light cycles to see white hairs/buds to start, which is actual flowering, The weeks in between are just a transition while the flowering hormone builds up

Good logic

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

The breeders timeline is just an estimate. It’s almost always lower than real flowering time indoors or outdoors. Would you buy seeds that day they finish in 8 weeks or one that says they finish in 12?

As far as counting, I don’t. I’d recommend the same to everyone.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

What is the point of counting?

They are just done when they are done.

10 weeks 15 weeks 12 weeks...... whatever. I haven't counted weeks in a really long time

 

[Flork]

Old school grower here so never counted, that's a thing that came with cannabis forums and breeders giving estimates on sprout to fruit times like tomato seed breeders have always done.

 

[obijohn]

What is the point of counting?

They are just done when they are done.

10 weeks 15 weeks 12 weeks...... whatever. I haven't counted weeks in a really long time

I really doubt any flowering timeframe assigned to a strain is going to be 100% accurate. I just like a general idea so I can plan ahead. In October here it can get rainy, which is no bueno with buds, plus I lose a ton of direct sun. I can do a few things to mitigate some of this, but forewarned is forearmed

 

[xtsho]

I keep a calendar and mark off the days as they go by. I go by the high end of breeder estimates but when that day comes it's chop time no matter what. If I look hard enough I can always find a few amber trichomes somewhere on the plant so I know it's done. I don't want too much amber either because I'm after a head high.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

I really doubt any flowering timeframe assigned to a strain is going to be 100% accurate. I just like a general idea so I can plan ahead. In October here it can get rainy, which is no bueno with buds, plus I lose a ton of direct sun. I can do a few things to mitigate some of this, but forewarned is forearmed

Unfortunately you can't just speed up a plant or make it somehow rippen because the weather doesn't work in your favor.

Breeder timelines are absolute nonsense. You will only be chomping at the bit to chop early because of them.

 

[Star Dog]

I don't count as such I'll take note of the date for reference then let them grow.

I'll give them 70 ish days then assess the situation at the time which more often than not is 2-3 weeks more.

 

[steve870]

makes no sense to count honestly. Most cannabis strains are unstable and flower time will vary. I go by what i see.

 

[Mechman60]

What is the point of counting?

They are just done when they are done.

10 weeks 15 weeks 12 weeks...... whatever. I haven't counted weeks in a really long time

That's because your a professional. Us that are noobs "relatively" do it as part of the learning curve. I also want to estimate when one of my tents is available.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

That's because your a professional. Us that are noobs "relatively" do it as part of the learning curve. I also want to estimate when one of my tents is available.

The best thing you can possibly do is cut down your learning curve.

1st thing you will need to do that is the truth.

The truth is that timelines are way out of wack. So many different variables come into play.

From the pheno, environment, breeder lies, lighting, grower error and many more.

My point here is instead of focusing on time you need to understand what truly ripe is.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

That's because your a professional. Us that are noobs "relatively" do it as part of the learning curve. I also want to estimate when one of my tents is available.

Has nothing to do with being a professional. Flowering generally takes 10-12 weeks. Rough estimate. Plan around that, not some magic number a breeder hands out to sell seeds.

 

[steve870]

the thing is that growing is very simple and there shouldn't be any learning curve to it. If there is a learning curve for you then you are over complicating things.

 

[Lil Czr]

I stopped counting years ago.

I also learned that breeders time frames are mostly marketing hype.

But in most cases 9-11 weeks seems to be the average flowering times of most hybrids.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

the thing is that growing is very simple and there shouldn't be any learning curve to it. If there is a learning curve for you then you are over complicating things.

This is also completely untrue. Growing plants to some may be intuitive but not to others. Coupled with the vast amount of misinformation online, it's easy to see why some new growers fail at first.

 

[steve870]

This is also completely untrue. Growing plants to some may be intuitive but not to others. Coupled with the vast amount of misinformation online, it's easy to see why some new growers fail at first.

i disagree but i agree i made the mistake with the shear amount of bs info on the internet. thankfully this forum and it's awesome users brought me on the right path.