a couple of questions for liberals

medicineman

New Member
that is that single mothers fault for not bettering herself and getting a better job, there are all kinds of grants and loans to pay for school and most schools including the little po dump school in the dirty south that i went to that offer free child care for students, so that she can get a better job and actually earn a living. being that you are a commie why do you think a cashier and a doctor should get the same? in addition that single mother is also obviously a woman which makes her a minority which means that there are quotas thanks to pinko affirmative action so that she has an even better shot of getting grants and loans.
Are you a mother raising a couple of kids? If not, maybe you should worry about your own situation. Where did I say a Dr. should make the same as a "cashier"?? Communist no, liberal yes. and no they aren't the same, as I know you believe. I'd like to know what made you educated fools so self righteous. Some people get dealt a harder hand, maybe you know nothing about this. Not everyone comes programed to go to college/graduate school and become some high paid idiot. I give Kudos to Dr.s, But lawyers are scum, CEOs are scum, Politicians (well most) are scum, a lot of the overpaid idiots running this insane asylum are nothing but scum, greedy pricks with one thing on their mind, how to make more money at any cost. Capitalism in general sucks. It rewards the wealthy and punishes the poor. The workers in this society need more recognition and more pay.
 

earlymorninstonepeomp

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1. do you support affirmative action?
2. do you support unions?

if you answered yes to both then you are confused at best and idiots at worst.

unions support moving up in the company through seniority.
affirmative action supports moving up in the company through racial quotas.
do you not see how illogical it is to support both?
they have different goals.

any way, there is no reason to flame me, how about for once just answering the question.
How about asking a question without answering it or making it abundantly clear that anyone who doesn't agree with you is either an idiot or confused. Sounds a whole lot like post election bitterness to me.
Soooooo....O.k yeah you're right. Feel better now ??? See I just lied to you yet expect fully that you will if not believe it, be appeased by it. Just like the last administration used to do.
LOL........You ever worked in a union shop ??? Complete booooolshit in my experience. When run properly they work. But they're not. Makes a joke of the work place in alot of instances. Affirmitive action ????? Always thought it was boooolshit. In all reality probably necessary in certain situation and places (like a union shop) but never excuted in the manner it was intended.
Either way the only idiotic or confused people are the ones who walk around with tunnel vision with no room or respect for opinions that differ from their own.
 
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Keenly

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he just thinks anyone who doesnt agree with him is wrong

he is a troll who needs to go back in his hole and keep his delusions to himself

if he is not going to be ok with other people having an opinion maybe this forum isnt for him
 
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Keenly

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Exactly, so why should people who make better decisions than others have there money taken from them?
oh yeah man its the single mothers fault that she is in a shitty situation?

i hope you knock some bitch up so you see how it feels..


ill sit here and laugh and say oh its your fault you cant support your family
 

urmomis100

Well-Known Member
If someone losing benefits makes you happy, then you my friend are the hapless idiot. What those "cashiers as you call them were trying to do was get the same benefits as full time employees. Albertson and quite a few other companies have applied this scam to keep their wages down. Instead of having 20 full time employees, they hire 40 part time employees as then they don't have to offer benefits or pay overtime, as there is a 40 Hr. clause, so they could work a part time employee for 39 hrs straight and only pay straight time. My question is this: since Albertsons and others instituted this plan,.did their prices go down? Hell no they didn't. The profit just went up at the expense of the workers. BTW, 19 bucks an hr is barely a liveable wage. If you are a single mom and are part time (No benefits), how in the hell could one live on 20 Hrs. @ 19 bucks an hr. with no medical etc. BTW, try standing on your feet for 12+ hrs scanning food and dealing with irate customers because the store is too cheap to open another register, what an Idiot you must be. Stay at your 7.50 an hr. job and don't worry about the more complicated things you have no clue about
if u think someone working as a fucking cashier should get full benefits, you are a hapless idiot. They can easily avoid standing on their feet 12 hours and not getting benefits, GET A REAL FUCKING JOB. The difference between dems and reps is that reps take responsibility for their own actions, dems make excuses and blame others. And dont call me an idiot because I beleive in personal responsibility. If a job sucks as bad as u describe it: get a new one, and this time make sure its a CAREER.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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if u think someone working as a fucking cashier should get full benefits, you are a hapless idiot. They can easily avoid standing on their feet 12 hours and not getting benefits, GET A REAL FUCKING JOB. The difference between dems and reps is that reps take responsibility for their own actions, dems make excuses and blame others. And dont call me an idiot because I beleive in personal responsibility. If a job sucks as bad as u describe it: get a new one, and this time make sure its a CAREER.
The problem is that the mindset of some one that is of the opinion that they are making less than is justified is never going to view a job as a career.

The idea that a job is a temporary thing is a myth. You are always going to need a job, unless you strike it rich, in which case you might still end up needing a job if you are irresponsible with the money.

Though what I can't understand is why the liberals seem to have it against CEOs. For the most part, a large portion of them spent most of their working lives at the companies they become the CEOs of. Twenty, Thirty, Forty Years even, and not all of that time was spent in a executive level position. They worked their way up.

Of course, most people love to bitch, CEOs make too much. It's a stupid argument. If any group of people make too much for doing what they do it's entertainers and sports players. Instead of having to show intelligence and sound judgment those people get paid to do nothing more than something enjoyable. Why should a professional sportsplayer make $80/$90 Million a year?

That's absurd, compared to that Executives who make less than $10 Million aren't overpaid. Of course, relative to the $80/$90 Million a year figure everyone else is underpaid...

Besides, some of the CEOs have either built the company from the ground up, or were there since it's founding. Instead of quitting because the going got tough, or because they were tired of the same stuff day in and day out they continued to work and bust their asses.

As far as the comments about the single mother that can't afford to raise their children. I fail to see how I'm responsible, or why I should pay for their lack of sound judgment when I didn't get any enjoyment out of the act. At the same time, I can definitely understand extending help to them, but to say that they need to make the same amount as a software engineer, an accountant, or any other professional is insulting.

Not just to the professionals, but also to the single parent. One would imagine that if they don't like the situation they are in they would get off their ass and do something about it. To state that they don't have that ability is nothing more than saying that they are stupid. I refuse to believe that, and I think that helping them attend college is the correct path to take. Giving them a hand out instead of a hand up is stupid, and ultimately self-defeating. How can you expect them ever to provide for themselves if you just give it to them with out requiring them to eventually be able to take care of themselves?

To paraphrase Reagan, the success of Welfare should not be judged by how many people are on it, but by how many people get off of it.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
1. do you support affirmative action?
2. do you support unions?

if you answered yes to both then you are confused at best and idiots at worst.

unions support moving up in the company through seniority.
affirmative action supports moving up in the company through racial quotas.
do you not see how illogical it is to support both?
they have different goals.

any way, there is no reason to flame me, how about for once just answering the question.
I will abstain from answering because I would not be characterized as a Liberal, but I will comment on your last statement.

You asked the question. You provided a ready made insult before receiving any answers. Then you ask for no flames.

The tone of your original post begs for flames.
 

ViRedd

New Member
I don't Believe in neither, I believe in the right for everyone to be able to work on any given job and union membership should never be a requirement.

As far as affirmative action, it is not needed any more(this past election proves that). It was one time, (just after the civil rights movement) But a person should be able to get a job based on his or her own merits and not the color of thier skin.
Dankster ...

Just wanted you to know that I agree with your above statements. :)

Are you getting smarter ... or am I getting dumber? :bigjoint:

Vi

PS: Just kidding ... :)
 

BadDog40

Well-Known Member
Funny how republicans fight for the rights of unborn children yet have no problem letting them starve or go without proper health care once they are born.
 

medicineman

New Member
if u think someone working as a fucking cashier should get full benefits, you are a hapless idiot. They can easily avoid standing on their feet 12 hours and not getting benefits, GET A REAL FUCKING JOB. The difference between dems and reps is that reps take responsibility for their own actions, dems make excuses and blame others. And dont call me an idiot because I beleive in personal responsibility. If a job sucks as bad as u describe it: get a new one, and this time make sure its a CAREER.
I doubt I'll ever have to call you an Idiot again. If anyone reads the above post and can't see the idiot sticking it's ugly head out, then I'd be definently surprised. BTW, many people make a carreer out of grocery stores. Not everyone is inclined to go to grad school.
 

urmomis100

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I doubt I'll ever have to call you an Idiot again. If anyone reads the above post and can't see the idiot sticking it's ugly head out, then I'd be definently surprised. BTW, many people make a carreer out of grocery stores. Not everyone is inclined to go to grad school.
Med, calling me an idiot sticking my ugly head out implies that you had no grounds to counter my argument, except the lame tagline which is the antithesis of the point im trying to make. Oh my FUCKING God you are a moron. I stick by what I said and you have made no legitimate arguments against it.
 

shimmer

Well-Known Member
if u think someone working as a fucking cashier should get full benefits, you are a hapless idiot. They can easily avoid standing on their feet 12 hours and not getting benefits, GET A REAL FUCKING JOB. The difference between dems and reps is that reps take responsibility for their own actions, dems make excuses and blame others. And dont call me an idiot because I beleive in personal responsibility. If a job sucks as bad as u describe it: get a new one, and this time make sure its a CAREER.
Why don't you get a better job? Most arrogant pricks aren't happy people, maybe it's something to do with your job? Consider this pal, if you could elevate yourself career wise you would. How fucking dare you look down on people who don't HAVE A REAL FUCKING JOB. You spoke about people like that round here, you'd be pickin' your fucking teeth up.Prick:spew:
 

urmomis100

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Why don't you get a better job? Most arrogant pricks aren't happy people, maybe it's something to do with your job? Consider this pal, if you could elevate yourself career wise you would. How fucking dare you look down on people who don't HAVE A REAL FUCKING JOB. You spoke about people like that round here, you'd be pickin' your fucking teeth up.Prick:spew:
Im not an arrogant prick. And I have a career where I can work my way up in, Im not a cashier that wants benefits for a job thats entry level is the only level. I would be fine with being a cashier for $19 an hour with benefits so but that job does not offer benefits so I got a better job, a career. These people should and could do the same. And even though I hate corporations (from personal experience) in their defense if they gave full benefits to every cashier then their prices would go up and they would be unable to compete, and they would go bankrupt. They could cut the profit margin but thers only so far that can go even if they would (theyre greedy) All Im saying is that if u want benefits, apply in management or something else. Im not saying they need to go to grad school. Thats all im saying. Sorry if I cam off like an ass hole, my bad.:blsmoke:
 

BadDog40

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Im not an arrogant prick. And I have a career where I can work my way up in, Im not a cashier that wants benefits for a job thats entry level is the only level. I would be fine with being a cashier for $19 an hour with benefits so but that job does not offer benefits so I got a better job, a career. These people should and could do the same. And even though I hate corporations (from personal experience) in their defense if they gave full benefits to every cashier then their prices would go up and they would be unable to compete, and they would go bankrupt. They could cut the profit margin but thers only so far that can go even if they would (theyre greedy) All Im saying is that if u want benefits, apply in management or something else. Im not saying they need to go to grad school. Thats all im saying. Sorry if I cam off like an ass hole, my bad.:blsmoke:

Basically what you're saying is only people in management and high level 'careers' deserve health coverage and fuck everyone else. Call it what you want but that is the attitude of a selfish arrogant asshole.
 

natrone23

Well-Known Member
I call bullshit on this 19$ cashier job.........19$ my ass. I guaranty you no cashier is making 19$ hour..........Where did this figure come from? out of somebodies ass?
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
dumber.....:)
Really? In my life time I have belonged to Baker's & Confectionairs Union AFL-CIO (Worked at Orowheat Bakery in Monebello Ca), Paper & Printing Specialties Union AFL-CIO (Mission Paper in Alhambra Ca), Teamster's Union (Hauling Pool Chemicals out of City of Industry Ca), United Auto Worker's Union (Worked at the GM Plant in South Gate Ca before they closed) and the Carpenter's Union AFL-CIO (I also framed Houses in California before the Illegals crushed the union there).
To be honest, I made more money in non union shops.
Neither one really did nothing for me except take my money.
I should either be required to pay taxes or pay union dues, not both.
 
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