Transplanted too low causing overwatering?

[madvillian420]

leaves touching the moist soil directly will eventually rot. Otherwise they look fine and will flourish as the roots continue to dig down. As you get more growth up top that lower stuff you currently have will mostly be larf anyway.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Wow, not exactly what I meant by teach me something. Thanks for the useless post

Sorry thought you were being sarcastic. Transpiration still has nothing to do with watering. If it's still wet, don't water. If it's almost dry, then water it.
If you are having transpiration issues then you need to focus on your environment not your watering.

 

[Danky clones]

I recently transplanted 2 plants into my 15gallon living soil fabric pots. I accidentally dug my transplant holes too deep causing my plants to sit very low as you can see from the pic. Since than I've leveled the soil out and actually had to give a mild lollipopping this early in which I was not happy about.

So my 1 plant is sitting so low that it's leaves are basically hovering right about my soil/mulch and it has since became overwatered, after waiting 5-7 days and giving it another light watering it appears it was not ready and I probably made things worse.

Now my question is will the lack of airflow to the stomata in itself cause overwatering even if its only half of the plants leaves?

No brother not at all if you feel like it’s looking that way just water the top dressing lightly to keep the organic mulch alive

 

[Danky clones]

Wts the room temp and. Rh nice plants bro

 

[TrentSteel]

I think you're making up things to get worried about now.

LEDS lights causing higher humidity and slow movement of water through the roots? Who ever heard of that?

If you're worried about airflow, get a little fan set up. Don't sweat soil, you're in a smart pot! It will dry.

Yea, your probably right I get caught up on too many details.

But just for clarity I was not saying anything about LED lights slowing movement through the roots. All I had said is that rH is higher below the canopy and I hear through Harley Smith of NPK University on youtube that the LEDs exasturbate this, no idea if that last statement is true as I have not looked further into myself.

My point was if I have 1/4" between bottom of my leaves (stomata) and my moist soil than I was worried it might drop my VPD to stupid levels. But it's only 2-3 leaves on each plant so I'm obviously getting too caught up in details just thought I might learn something.

I do need a fan in there just such a tight space and the 1 I have on hand is too high powered to put that close, I have a large oscillating fan on them but it's coming straight down on them from above. I'd like to get one on from the side to air out beneath canopy.

 

[TrentSteel]

leaves touching the moist soil directly will eventually rot. Otherwise they look fine and will flourish as the roots continue to dig down. As you get more growth up top that lower stuff you currently have will mostly be larf anyway.

Ya, I had to give mild lollipop to prevent bottom leaves from touching. Really sucked to do this early in a buddy has same seeds starter same time and they appear nearly 2 weeks ahead.

If I removed anymore leaves they'd be bare and the plant showing signs of overwatering was the one with leaves just hovering above soil while the other remains happy.

Ah, well I'm not too worried just trying to keep learning new things

 

[TrentSteel]

Wts the room temp and. Rh nice plants bro

Thanks,
Majority of the time it's 81F~, 70%rH for VPD of 0.9~ average during day. Nights 71F, 65%rH.

My AC kicks on at 83F which it has been doing quite a bit lately, need a better Humidifer and I could run it more often I chose.

Yea, I've been slacking on keeping my top moist. I'm assuming you grow the same style if so, do you get a light top dress misting in between each watering or how often do you find that necessary?

I think I'll be measuring my transplant holes from now on because this was just a pain, lol.

As you can see the plant lower to the soil is struggling while other remains happy. Could easily be a coincidence I guess.

 

[Danky clones]

That’s perfect brother

 

[TrentSteel]

That’s perfect brother

Thank you very much.

So I've read that once you continue to re-use your soil and get a few cycles in, your soil will gain better water retention capacity.

Since I have not ran LSO before and this is the beginning of my 3rd cycle. Could it be that I have not gotten used to the better retention capacity of my soil? Or is it not that dramatic of a difference?

 

[madvillian420]

Thank you very much.

So I've read that once you continue to re-use your soil and get a few cycles in, your soil will gain better water retention capacity.

Since I have not ran LSO before and this is the beginning of my 3rd cycle. Could it be that I have not gotten used to the better retention capacity of my soil? Or is it not that dramatic of a difference?

i know you weren't asking me but i reuse soil as well, I doubt thats the issue. Are you doing no-till? or breaking up the soil between runs? Either way unless you added much more of something like EWC which retains moisture, id say this is a problem of poor drainage from the start. A whole lot of bagged soils need a bit more aeration drainage media like perlite or rice hulls or lava rocks or whatever you choose.

Also i just noticed this, you are running 2 humidifiers in your space for a couple plants? thats gonna contribute greatly to your soil retaining moisture.

 

[TrentSteel]

i know you weren't asking me but i reuse soil as well, I doubt thats the issue. Are you doing no-till? or breaking up the soil between runs? Either way unless you added much more of something like EWC which retains moisture, id say this is a problem of poor drainage from the start. A whole lot of bagged soils need a bit more aeration drainage media like perlite or rice hulls or lava rocks or whatever you choose.

Also i just noticed this, you are running 2 humidifiers in your space for a couple plants? thats gonna contribute greatly to your soil retaining moisture.

Well my ambient rH is on point, but I am a little concerned with them being so close and surrounding it (not sure if it's raising rH directly around the pot). My only other option is to run them outside from the lung room (which I do in flower), but my rH doesn't get quite where I want it that way and it causes a portion of my living space to have a really high rH.

Considering it is a breathable fabric pot (/w living soil liner) I probably should be more concerned.

My ultrasonic Humidifer recently died on my so I've had to resort to running 2 cool mist humidifiers. The ideal Humidifer for me would be something I could run from the lung room but hose/duct the moisture directly into my grow closet.

I put a hole through my drywall for my inline in order to convert my closet into a grow space. I'm always concerned on details involving air ventilation/circulation since its not a tent designed to grow in but I feel any concerns I have there are minor...

It's actually funny that you mentioned that about the Humidifers because that is totally a detail I would typically obsess about but people keep telling me I'm focusing on too many details.

I should remove 1 or both and see if it improves as that is the problem plant which is surrounded by the cool mist.

 

[madvillian420]

Well my ambient rH is on point, but I am a little concerned with them being so close and surrounding it (not sure if it's raising rH directly around the pot). My only other option is to run them outside from the lung room (which I do in flower), but my rH doesn't get quite where I want it that way and it causes a portion of my living space to have a really high rH.

Considering it is a breathable fabric pot (/w living soil liner) I probably should be more concerned.

My ultrasonic Humidifer recently died on my so I've had to resort to running 2 cool mist humidifiers. The ideal Humidifer for me would be something I could run from the lung room but hose/duct the moisture directly into my grow closet.

I put a hole through my drywall for my inline in order to convert my closet into a grow space. I'm always concerned on details involving air ventilation/circulation since its not a tent designed to grow in but I feel any concerns I have there are minor...

It's actually funny that you mentioned that about the Humidifers because that is totally a detail I would typically obsess about but people keep telling me I'm focusing on too many details.

I should remove 1 or both and see if it improves as that is the problem plant which is surrounded by the cool mist.

what is your rh% without them? airflow is also a big deal

 

[TrentSteel]

what is your rh% without them? airflow is also a big deal

Yea, I'm just concerned with little things. I worry my right back corner doesn't get as good of airflow as the rest.

My exhaust is top left portion of the closet, majority of my intake air comes in at the bottom right zipper of my door to get that cross flow throughout the room. But since it's a closet and doorway is positioned in the centre I worry about the back right corner where my 1 Humidifer currently sits. Not too concerned atm mainly when I have closet full and a flowering plant in that corner.

Oh, ya if I remove the Humidifers just outside the door I can basically only maintain 60%rH~ and I'd probably even still need 1 inside to acheive that. But like this I can maintain the 70%rH~ I need at the moment.

 

[madvillian420]

unless youre in the desert and humidity levels are below around 30%, you will be fine with zero humidifiers.

The only time i ever chase humidity numbers are in late flower and its always just making sure they dont get too HIGH.

 

[TrentSteel]

unless youre in the desert and humidity levels are below around 30%, you will be fine with zero humidifiers.

The only time i ever chase humidity numbers are in late flower and its always just making sure they dont get too HIGH.

Well I know they will manage I'm just trying to maintain optimal VPD for each stage of growth.