I'm getting discouraged.
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cryologist
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sorry dude. looks like you were right. in my mind it could have been severe heat stress. I tore down my first plant that had heat stress because I believed someone online who said I definitely had russets and needed to buy avid and forbid to get rid of them. made me a little skeptical of the "100% it's mites" diagnosis.
Kerowacked
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Could have been heat stress, luckily op has a scope
LambdaCalculus
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But the bugs could have been a consequence of the plant dying. Normally bugs don't attack a healthy plant.
I had 2 clones. One had a good set of roots and the other had one about 1 inch long. I had them in some pots inside. I put them outside yesterday and now they are dead... pretty much an hour in the heat and they shriveled to nothing.
I started then in bottled water containers and the first one grew about a 4 in root + some others and seemed to start growing then in the soil... I should have left them in the bottled water as they seemed to be doing fine. I tried about 6 in bottled water and really only 2 rooted but maybe the others would have(one molded for some reason). The last two I made sure to immediately put them in to rooting hormone and then in to the bottles right when I cut them while the others I took more time. I read somewhere that the longer you wait the more that oxygen can get in to the xylem and screw things up(essentially clogging up the transport system).
It seems with clones that it is extremely important to control the light. They were not growing fast but otherwise looked ok(well, the one with the one root seemed to be slowly dying) so I thought I should put them outside to get better light and pretty much the sun and heat got to them within an hour.
Not sure how much nutrients matter until they at least built up a root system so they can actually support growth. Anyways, that is just my 2c.
PadawanWarrior
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Fungus gnats are nothing. Just get some Microbe-Lift BMC.
PadawanWarrior
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Change your socks.
cryologist
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excuse me?
DrDukePHD
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100% agree with the Microbe-Lift BMC for larvae & yellow stickies for adults. Don't waste your time with mosquito dunks etc. its just a pain
OldMedUser
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I've never heard of that stuff. I use Gnatrol for fungus gnats or any other weird bugs in the pots. Basically the same stuff as mosquito dunks, BTi, and works pretty good at getting rid of them. One small dose got rid of them the last time I had an infestation. Sticky traps and other measures can help control the numbers but won't get rid of them.
The little bastards often come pre-installed in bags of medium that can be soil or soilless mixes. They get in through holes or tears in the packaging and set up house so I tell people that have them keep coming back to make sure all bags are stored well away from the plants. Doesn't hurt to check for their larva in the bags or put up a couple of yellow sticky traps where the bags are stored to see if there are gnats in the mix before use.
PadawanWarrior
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cryologist
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yeah that's why I always sterilize coco before use. sticky traps and spinosad soil drench takes care of everything ime.I've never heard of that stuff. I use Gnatrol for fungus gnats or any other weird bugs in the pots. Basically the same stuff as mosquito dunks, BTi, and works pretty good at getting rid of them. One small dose got rid of them the last time I had an infestation. Sticky traps and other measures can help control the numbers but won't get rid of them.
The little bastards often come pre-installed in bags of medium that can be soil or soilless mixes. They get in through holes or tears in the packaging and set up house so I tell people that have them keep coming back to make sure all bags are stored well away from the plants. Doesn't hurt to check for their larva in the bags or put up a couple of yellow sticky traps where the bags are stored to see if there are gnats in the mix before use.
twentyeight.threefive
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Ignore him, he's a nobody. He's been growing for 20 years and has clone only strains and yet all of the plants he grows he can't get to harvest while healthy. He's under the impression that 95% of this forum is just made up of sock accounts created by me.
OldMedUser
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How do you sterilize the coco? I believe Spinosad is banned in Canada but not sure. Couldn't find it on Amazon . ca and haven't been able to find it in any stores or garden centres up here. Insecticidal soaps like Safer's seems to work fine and the concentrate makes 10X the amount of the ready mixed stuff for the same price.
waterproof808
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One bottle of this will last you years and you will never have to worry about russets in veg ever again. You will see immediate improvement after a single treatment. Also good idea to use as preventative and do one thorough spray before flipping to flower.
In flower, you can use beneficial insects you can use to keep them under control....they are banned for import to Hawaii, so I always forget thats an option for people on the continent.
In flower, you can use beneficial insects you can use to keep them under control....they are banned for import to Hawaii, so I always forget thats an option for people on the continent.
cryologist
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ah sorry I don't know about canada. seems like you're right.How do you sterilize the coco? I believe Spinosad is banned in Canada but not sure. Couldn't find it on Amazon . ca and haven't been able to find it in any stores or garden centres up here. Insecticidal soaps like Safer's seems to work fine and the concentrate makes 10X the amount of the ready mixed stuff for the same price.
to sterilize, I soak the coco in a bleach solution for a couple of hours before rinsing and buffering.
PadawanWarrior
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I've got that stuff in case of emergencies. Does it burn the plants at all?
Flash63
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Have you ever tried nematode?How do you sterilize the coco? I believe Spinosad is banned in Canada but not sure. Couldn't find it on Amazon . ca and haven't been able to find it in any stores or garden centres up here. Insecticidal soaps like Safer's seems to work fine and the concentrate makes 10X the amount of the ready mixed stuff for the same price.
waterproof808
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It can burn if it is mixed with oils, so wait a week or so if you have sprayed any oil based stuff.
PadawanWarrior
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Why do you need to make a paste first? Can you just dilute it in a little hot water, then fill the rest of the bottle with colder water?
waterproof808
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Thats just what the instructions on the bottle say if you are using it as a spray. You can also just mix it in a small cup, wait a couple minutes for most of the sediment to settle, and then pour off the liquid into your sprayer. The powder can clog spray bottles, so I just pick up a couple cheap 32oz. sprayers from home depot or the dollar store that I dont mind ruining.