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RetiredToker76

RetiredToker76

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
Serial cloning is taking clones before you put your plants into flower & using them for your next grow.
Unfortunately you might still be above your plant count for a while doing that.

Edit: Late to the party as usual.
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Even later to the party than G.W. I run 3 plants in flower & 4 plants in veg, and usually take 20-25 clones. I can only fit 3 flowering plants in my closet but can fit 4 veg plants in the veg side, so when I clone the 4th plant is a "mom" which is a plant I trained specifically for producing cuttings. When I harvest my flowers I move all my veg plants to the flower side with veg light timing, while I use my veg side for drying. After a week, I put the "mom" back in my veg side and start flowering the other three plants while I take cuttings from the 4th, then I just trash the "mom" plant.

Of the 20-25 cuttings I take, I keep the 4 that rooted the fastest and most agressively and toss/give away the rest. Never heard it called serial cloning before but it makes sense as a name. It's how I end up running 1 genetic for upwards of a year or two. Not keeping a permanent mom really does allow me to not have a space dedicated to moms.
 
manfredo

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Cortisone in the shoulder this morning. First time in over 4 months. Plus an adjustment.

Gonna tear down the e-bike tire next and see if I can patch it, or replace it if not. It's a special tube with a long valve stem to go through the double wall rim.

Happy Monday!! :shock:
 
RetiredToker76

RetiredToker76

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Rsawr said:
Yes, but it is hard to do for an entire grow cycle (for me) Keeping it that short, but healthy enough to flip right away for 10ish weeks was really hard for me, and that was only with a reversed female! I bow to your scissor skillz!
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Mainlining, bending, tie downs. I pull about 6 weeks before my plants start growing up towards the light.

These girls are about 5 weeks old, I grew them out to about 12", topped them at their first node and then started splaying out the two branches to create my flowering branches. I could have topped sooner but I wanted the lower branches to mature as much as possible first. So they spent 2 weeks in 1/2gallon pots growing up, then got transplanted in to 3gals and are being tied down for at least another 2-3 weeks. Unless your trying to flip fast, this really slows down upward growth. Also has the side benifit of giving you extremely long root development time. The have to stay somewhat micro for the next 7 weeks, that's when they'll get moved to the flower side for end of veg time. So I just hold them down with tent stakes until they grow out enough to be held down by the bag grommets. I try to keep about 15 possible flowering nodes on them in veg, that way I have pruning and airflow choices available as I flip into flower. These girls are going to be tall when I move them, probably around 10-12" off the soil.

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Then when in flower I've got 8-10 cola branches per plant reaching up from the soil line. These girls are almost 2.5 months old and starting week 2 of flower and are currently 23" off the soil line. They'll probably max out somewhere around 32"-36" once done with stretching.

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It makes for an intense veg training process, but when you've got limits to work within you do what you can. Right now I'm looking at 28 colas on 3 plants in 6 square feet that will max out around 3 feet above the soil line. I just finished all my lollipopping and HST and they're now free to grow up as much as they want with some possible future bending to keep an even canopy. I've topped my closet out at 47" from soil where my LED was just stuck at the top of the ceiling and I was worried about airflow. They'll get nowhere near that this go around.
 
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GreatwhiteNorth

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RetiredToker76 said:
I'm kind of curious where the measurement starts. Kind of like fishing there are several ways to measure this plant. Most of my cuttings are at shortest about 4", usually at least 6", then they go in the aerocloner until they pop roots. Once they have plantable roots I put them in soil and they're at most 3" off the soil line usually less because I bury the clones deep once rooted. Once I put them in soil I consider them plants, before that they're just cuttings of which about 83% will go to waste, because even if they all strike fast and strong, I'm still only keeping 4 of the 20-25 actually cut, how long the cutting is isn't always the deciding factor of its root development.

We're hopefully going to be getting a 9 plant per patient law here in 2024 which if it passes, I have no idea what kind of ridiculous regulations they'll build around it, but I"m sure there will be plenty and they'll likely be restrictive and/or expensive. Then I'll have to ask the question do I care about the regulations at all anyway?
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When I lived in Alaska the state constitution said (and still says) you are allowed to have 24 plants.
I was in the local PD on an unrelated matter & talked to an officer. He told me that LE has no justification to check these numbers and just because your house reeks of growing weed they had no legal right to demand to see your grow unless:

1. You showed some one and were informed on.
2. You admitted you had over the limit.
 
Rsawr

Rsawr

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RetiredToker76 said:
I'm kind of curious where the measurement starts. Kind of like fishing there are several ways to measure this plant. Most of my cuttings are at shortest about 4", usually at least 6", then they go in the aerocloner until they pop roots. Once they have plantable roots I put them in soil and they're at most 3" off the soil line usually less because I bury the clones deep once rooted. Once I put them in soil I consider them plants, before that they're just cuttings of which about 83% will go to waste, because even if they all strike fast and strong, I'm still only keeping 4 of the 20-25 actually cut, how long the cutting is isn't always the deciding factor of its root development.

We're hopefully going to be getting a 9 plant per patient law here in 2024 which if it passes, I have no idea what kind of ridiculous regulations they'll build around it, but I"m sure there will be plenty and they'll likely be restrictive and/or expensive. Then I'll have to ask the question do I care about the regulations at all anyway?
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For us it is anything with roots. If it's in a cloner or unplanted it's from the top of the roots, if it's in soil it's from the point the stem protrudes. I remember the wording being very "supercrop the shit out of it" friendly, but most cuttings I take are already almost 5 inches, so yeah, it's tough. 9 plants sounds fun! Are the rules more strict than that right now?

I like to stay in the lines, keeps me from feeling nervous when I have to have work on the house done. I have heard horror stories of contractors cutting corners because they know they have blackmail.
 
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