How to fix the claw

[twentyeight.threefive]

Thats what the science and research says... But from experience with trial and error I absolutely swear by drybacks until the root system is fully established. Yes you can still grow nice plants up until that point in coco keeping it fully saturated (before the root system is full) but personally I don't get the vigor and root expansion that I do with drybacks. You have to be careful though not to let it dry back too much obviously or your gonna have issues with salts.

For the last 20 years that I've been growing I have always been very experimental and I like to jump outside of the box probably more often than I should. I have paid the price many times, sure but I have also been very surprised by going against the science (rules). Just like my current grow, I was running ph between 5.8 - 6.0 ish and kept having slight deficiencies. I then raised the ph between 6.3 and 6.6 and the issues disappeared and the plants are beautiful. It's crazy how things work...

In other words, sometimes ya just gotta do what works best for you.

So i guess you're saying that the science and research is wrong. Got it.

 

[psychadelibud]

So i guess you're saying that the science and research is wrong. Got it.

I literally explained it in my post and I didn't say that lol. Take as you will, it doesn't matter to me. But no, I clearly did not say that.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

This is actually my 4th grow in coco, not that it really matters.

I think I recently made a post that stated I was on my third grow in coco but this is actually my 4th. It really don't matter, its definitely not my first or second and I have learned a lot between here and there.

So out of your 4 total grows which have you fed daily and which ones did you let dry back? Even 1/4 is a terrible sample rate. Perhaps it was something else you did wrong that created your lack of results?

 

[psychadelibud]

So i guess you're saying that the science and research is wrong. Got it.

And your saying I should continue doing it the way that does not work for me? Got it.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

I literally explained it in my post and I didn't say that lol. Take as you will, it doesn't matter to me. But no, I clearly did not say that.

No you literally said it.

Thats what the science and research says... But from experience with trial and error I absolutely swear by drybacks

 

[psychadelibud]

So out of your 4 total grows which have you fed daily and which ones did you let dry back? Even 1/4 is a terrible sample rate. Perhaps it was something else you did wrong that created your lack of results?

You do it your way, I'll do it my way. I have plenty of photos showing what I do works very very well.

 

[psychadelibud]

No you literally said it.

That is not what it says... And if you read it correctly, I literally said that I'm going against the science and that you were correct according to science and research. What your really doing is perceiving it in a way that you want to perceive it.

 

[psychadelibud]

No you literally said it.

I'll post some photos of my (minimal) coco runs later when I get the time. Lol. So that way you can see what I do works well.... For me. And very likely would work well for others if their way is showing mediocre results.

 

[lusidghost]

I'm not sure what percentage of dryback is best, or what science is saying about the matter. But from what I've seen, keeping a small plant's medium oversaturated leads to crappy root production along with other problems.

 

[Southernontariogrower]

I've had plants that are very N sensitive. I trash strain after second grow if l can't fix it.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

I'm not sure what percentage of dryback is best, or what science is saying about the matter. But from what I've seen, keeping a small plant's medium oversaturated leads to crappy root production along with other problems.

I’ve kept my small plants fed daily almost since sprout. Are you saying they have crappy root production?

 

[lusidghost]

I’ve kept my small plants fed daily almost since sprout. Are you saying they have crappy root production?

If I give an answer will you reply with that picture of the roots from an aeropot that you've posted 50 times?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

If I give an answer will you reply with that picture of the roots from an aeropot that you've posted 50 times?

Not sure where you have seen me post the same picture of anything 50 times. Seems like an exaggeration to me. But sure I'd love an answer. I can even pull my current small plants out of their pots and show you their roots if you'd like.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

If I give an answer will you reply with that picture of the roots from an aeropot that you've posted 50 times?

Still waiting for an answer. Decided you didn’t really have one?

Could you tell me more about “crappy root production” from daily feeds?

 

[lusidghost]

Still waiting for an answer. Decided you didn’t really have one?

Could you tell me more about “crappy root production” from daily feeds?

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That's like 2 cups worth of coco.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

That's like 2 cups worth of coco.

I’m waiting for the answer.

keeping a small plant's medium oversaturated leads to crappy root production along with other problems.

What does the amount of coco matter? We’re talking about small plants. The whole discussion was about feeding seedlings daily or did you forget?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I’m waiting for the answer.

 

[psychadelibud]

I’m waiting for the answer.



What does the amount of coco matter? We’re talking about small plants. The whole discussion was about feeding seedlings daily or did you forget?

Were talking about small plants...? Hmmm. Not sure about you but my plants in my 3/4 filled one gallon containers are massive.... Maybe you meant, were talking about small containers.

 

[psychadelibud]

I’m waiting for the answer.



What does the amount of coco matter? We’re talking about small plants. The whole discussion was about feeding seedlings daily or did you forget?

The discussion was not about feeding seedlings daily, it was about feeding any size plant without an established root system regardless of its size whether it be a seedling, a 6-12 inch clone etc... Once the root system fills up the pot, is when you want to go to doing multiple feedings per day. If not, your results will not even be close to what it would be by getting some nice dryback. It is what it is....

But again, if it works for you then keep at it. But there's a better way.

 

[psychadelibud]

With a container that small that you posted, I'd imagine it wouldn't really matter how often you feed it. You can fill that thing up with roots in 3 days. But you take that and transplant it into a 1 gal, 2 gal etc, then that is where the technique really matters. Until the root system is once again established, that is.