Examples of GOP Leadership

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Oh noes zee mishandling of classified documents that coincide the exact timing of a RICO case REEEEEEEEE!!!

What's this the 8th attempt now to disqualify him from office? Let me break this down for you.

The supreme right to declassify documents is the Presidents. Its in the Constitution and is above any bureaucratic process, regulation or statute. The President does submit documents to a process out of cordiality but President is not bound in any way to this process. The Spygate and Russiagate docs were declassified, and 20 months later still have not been entered into the Congressional Record as ordered by the duly elected President of the United States. The same counterintel division with largely the same staff (minus Strzok). The magistrate that issued the raid warrant previously recused himself for Trump bias. Just a few short months ago, National Archives sent Trump team a letter thanking them for being so cooperative and awesome in handling all their requests.

What we got so far lets see. Russian collusion, Ukraine collusion, taxes, maybe boned a porn star, insurrection, and now the highest authority on classified documents has been raided for classified documents with a warrant so broad its scope was any document for the entirety of the administration and any square foot of the premises which is his literal residence complete with SCIF. Thats literally the antithesis of what a warrant is.

They're letting you know who the real government is. Unelected, above the Law bureaucrats. Everyone can see it. Even third world dictators are questioning it.

Meanwhile, while all this unprecedented shit is happening, Joe Biden is in his Delaware basement awaiting orders to take his next vacation if they have enough uppers left to get him through it. And we are all anxiously awaiting that 2nd press conference in 2 years right?
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It is up to the administration around the president to do his biding. If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if there is no one to hear? I used to work in the aerospace industry. Every operation on a part is signed off by a person. Without it you do not know if it had been done. Also it makes the person responsible for the operation.

So you are saying Trump had people around him that were not doing their job? If they did not declassify all the information that he had on his property how much more was declassified by Trump and not carried out? Where is the call for these people's heads by the 'Trump' media? Who is the real government? Where is the call out for an investigation by the GOP? It is the Trump staffer's job to do these things. Not to take notes for an upcoming book. Why are we not hearing this? Please explain.
 
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It is up to the administration around the president to do his biding. If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if there is no one to hear? I used to work in the aerospace industry. Every operation on a part is signed off by a person. Without it you do not know if it had been done. Also it makes the person responsible for the operation.

So you are saying Trump had people around him that were not doing their job? If they did not declassify all the information that he had on his property how much more was declassified by Trump and not carried out? Where is the call for these people's heads by the 'Trump' media? Who is the real government? Where is the call out for an investigation by the GOP? It is the Trump staffer's job to do these things. Not to take notes for an upcoming book. Why are we not hearing this? Please explain.
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Ok. "People around him" cannot declassify anything.

Hope that helps.
 
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If it was declassified, there would be a record, and it would be available to us all.

It is not, because it was not. Trump is lying, and you are pushing his narrative like it is your job.
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I've already shown you at least one example, here it is again. That you need a record would undermine the authority. There is no reference in the Supreme Court, it's new territory in legal vs lawful. Most likely this means it's unquestionable on how broad the authority is since the Constitution was written as a restraint and there are none.

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Nothing will appease your kill or be killed mentality, but it obviously infringes on live and let live, and it's not a partisan issue.
 
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How can "they" declassify anything that was on his property or anything at all?

How much was ordered declassified and published I think really is the crux.

What does it mean when something is declassified, what domain would that now be in?
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But there is a process to follow. When a document is declassified it goes for all the copies out there. It is not a case of there is only a "Trump" copy.

Uh, no. The crux is that Trump was told to return them and did not. Fifteen boxes went back before when he said that was everything. Trump's lawyers even said everything went back. But Trump withheld some. He broke the law knowingly.

A declassified document is free for anyone to see, you and me. I had my secret classification when I did some military work. I was able to see stuff I can not see now.
 
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