GangaDownUnder
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Could be. A major component of loam is silt after all. Rivers do produce a lot of silt.
This looks like a sandy loam as it seems to have a high sand content and a relatively low clay content.
Is there something wrong with me?
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This looks like a sandy loam as it seems to have a high sand content and a relatively low clay content.
VincenzioVonHook
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It's the same boat with any biological matter. Ive had plenty of potting mixes full of gnats, bugs and strange fungi/moulds lol.
Cboat38
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Or kill your self using it lmfaoooooo
VincenzioVonHook
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I'll spontaneously combust my immune system with killer soil based histoplasmosis in a few days if you would like lol.
Just realised that wasn't for me anyways...
GangaDownUnder
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Lol what
TerryTeacosy
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Tom Sizemore's character (Sgt Mike...????) in Saving Private Ryan collected dirt from everywhere he'd been.
Then he died.
I can understand his motivations & appreciate the parallels between you, but I don't think he was intending to cultivate anything.
I hope you don't die from inhaling anything nasty from your soil before you get to inhale something more 'beneficial"
Then he died.
I can understand his motivations & appreciate the parallels between you, but I don't think he was intending to cultivate anything.
I hope you don't die from inhaling anything nasty from your soil before you get to inhale something more 'beneficial"
VincenzioVonHook
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So, threw a curveball, mixed up 10L of the river sludge lol, 5L vermicompost plus 5L perlite and threw the amnesia haze auto into a 17.5L square pot last night.
Let's see if it burst into hellish flames and engulfs itself with mites of some type.
Let's see if it burst into hellish flames and engulfs itself with mites of some type.
VincenzioVonHook
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I've already had pericarditis and an immune shutdown from histoplasma capsulatum when I was catching chickens for a few years. That bedding in the sheds full of shit, decaying feathers, piss and the odd carcass is a breeding ground for respiratory death.Tom Sizemore's character (Sgt Mike...????) in Saving Private Ryan collected dirt from everywhere he'd been.
Then he died.
I can understand his motivations & appreciate the parallels between you, but I don't think he was intending to cultivate anything.
I hope you don't die from inhaling anything nasty from your soil before you get to inhale something more 'beneficial"
If I lived 10hrs a day in that environment for a few years I'm going to assume I'm pearler. Or already close to dead. Pick one lol.
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VincenzioVonHook
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Seems like the girls are loving the basic basic sandy yard loam, vermicompost and perlite mix. Been two and a half weeks since transplant and they are going well.
I might be frequenting basic garden/yard soil more often as a base. I've been spending way too much time and money buying peat moss and Coco coir as a base (peat is like $8 for 5L now at my local) and then throwing convoluted concoctions of unneeded shit in with it. Unnecessary complication of what should be a simple process.
Two tbsp of slow release 8:4:10 in each pot at re-potting and tap water every third day.
I might be frequenting basic garden/yard soil more often as a base. I've been spending way too much time and money buying peat moss and Coco coir as a base (peat is like $8 for 5L now at my local) and then throwing convoluted concoctions of unneeded shit in with it. Unnecessary complication of what should be a simple process.
Two tbsp of slow release 8:4:10 in each pot at re-potting and tap water every third day.
VincenzioVonHook
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I need a scope to watch that shit unfold. The original inhabitants in the 5L of Coco and compost in each 5 gal pot are probably being viciously slaughtered by invading barbarians and fighting for their life.
As long as the plants seem to like it im in for a war. I can't afford shit these days.
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Rurumo
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The issue with outside dirt used inside is always the concern about drainage, but that's because most people's backyard dirt is, like you said, all manner of fill, not nice topsoil, or sandy loam with good drainage. Soil science is really interesting, you might really enjoy a used college textbook, you can compare your soil to a bunch of other types and figure out more about it. Your plants look great by the way, so far your experiment is looking pretty successful.
VincenzioVonHook
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Cheers. I was quite worried about drainage as well as the particle size was really fine. It did compact a lot when first watered too, but seems to drain relatively well considering. It does look like it could end up quite hydrophobic once it dries fully though.
The result is relatively unexpected tbh. I've clearly fell into the pattern of overthinking, especially considering I'm new to growing indoor and in potting mixes. I was spending more time thinking about convoluted mixes than actually growing.
I'm definately interested in soil biology more than ever now as I have opened my eyes to how influential soil is in relation to public health, especially in more remote areas. I'm a second year public health major and seriously considering switching to a more broad spectrum science/biology major as I found myself enjoying the first years base in general biology, organic chemistry and science more than the second years more legal, ethical and social subjects.
NotTheRobot
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Are you over thinking or over sold? There's a lot of money spent to convince us buyers we need a high priced product when simple works very well.
I pick up some gardening supplies at the end of the year 50 percent off and leave them age for a while. Outdoor plants got old sheep manure and Promix HP which seems to have a lot of peat in it. Plants love both.
Actual growing is definitely the important part though.
VincenzioVonHook
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Luckily no-one has ever tried to sell me anything in that regard. My local actually recommended straight coco and the nutes I already have to save money and time, but I just like to fiddle and serially overcomplicate everything. I'm definately my own worst enemy there.
I actually have a local shop that is incredibly frugal when it comes to up selling. Was going to buy some more peat moss, Neem, kelp, alfalfa, soybean and barley alongside some rock dust and zeolite which would have come to a hefty sum. Old mate asked me what I was growing and straight up told me to put all of it back and grab a block of Coco for $5 and use the green planet dual fuel I already had.
That took me back a bit. I expect shops to try sell me a black of Coco on top.
VincenzioVonHook
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I'm interested in seeing how long the medium lasts over the cycle without any amendments or supplements.
If It does start to fade early I'm interested in seeing if this "massive bloom" by green planet is worth the relatively low price and hype it has been getting locally. Some are even saying they use it as a base bloom feed, but I just can't see that with the profile below (unless you use like 20ml per litre).
It's organic, apparently has triacontanol, vitamins, enzymes and amino acids. Is marketed as 1:2:3 organic bloom, but actual analysis panel reads 0.33-0.33-0.66, with 0.18 Ca, 0.09 Mg, 0.15 S alongside trace amounts of lesser micros. I just like it because it smells like dr pepper crossed with b vitamin tablets and golden syrup lol. Dude at the shop thinks it's snake oil but I couldn't help myself lol.
I don't normally buy boosters but this was cheap (like $13 for a Litre) and supposed to be "better than canna boost" which goes for $65 for 250ml here.
If It does start to fade early I'm interested in seeing if this "massive bloom" by green planet is worth the relatively low price and hype it has been getting locally. Some are even saying they use it as a base bloom feed, but I just can't see that with the profile below (unless you use like 20ml per litre).
It's organic, apparently has triacontanol, vitamins, enzymes and amino acids. Is marketed as 1:2:3 organic bloom, but actual analysis panel reads 0.33-0.33-0.66, with 0.18 Ca, 0.09 Mg, 0.15 S alongside trace amounts of lesser micros. I just like it because it smells like dr pepper crossed with b vitamin tablets and golden syrup lol. Dude at the shop thinks it's snake oil but I couldn't help myself lol.
I don't normally buy boosters but this was cheap (like $13 for a Litre) and supposed to be "better than canna boost" which goes for $65 for 250ml here.
NotTheRobot
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I've used one part Megacrop for veg/bloom and some bloom nutes from Floranova that aren't the most expensive on the block and got results I'm happy with.
Massive Bloom sounds interesting.
VincenzioVonHook
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Day 53 since birth and 22 since transplant into the minimalist medium. Moving along nicely now. Stretch looks to be finished for the gatorslade frost (right in the above shot) and the amnesia seems to be on its last legs stretch wise.
I'm going to use this yard soil again for the Blimburn chemdog #4 fems I'm going to run next to see if the trend continues. I have another tub of similar slow release prills to try next run, as these $4 tubs have done me really well the last two runs. This one is all organic as a bonus.
It has what looks to be a really good base ratio, feeds for "3-4months" and is $4 lol. Has adequate Ca to buffer and reduce need for liming, plenty of S which is always good in flower, has humic acid and kelp extract.
Haven't got pics on me but the ratios are:
3.3-1-3.3 NPK
12% Ca
12.65% S
9% humic acid
2% Mg
Plus all the trace elements.
I will be running the sandy loam mixed 50/30/20 with Coco and uxp pumice with 2tbsp per pot 3:1:3 and will top dress with Dr. Greenthumbs bud and bloom (0.5-2-3) when flipped/pre flower kicks in.
Looks like it could be a good, easy base mix for an organic soil.
I'm going to use this yard soil again for the Blimburn chemdog #4 fems I'm going to run next to see if the trend continues. I have another tub of similar slow release prills to try next run, as these $4 tubs have done me really well the last two runs. This one is all organic as a bonus.
It has what looks to be a really good base ratio, feeds for "3-4months" and is $4 lol. Has adequate Ca to buffer and reduce need for liming, plenty of S which is always good in flower, has humic acid and kelp extract.
Haven't got pics on me but the ratios are:
3.3-1-3.3 NPK
12% Ca
12.65% S
9% humic acid
2% Mg
Plus all the trace elements.
I will be running the sandy loam mixed 50/30/20 with Coco and uxp pumice with 2tbsp per pot 3:1:3 and will top dress with Dr. Greenthumbs bud and bloom (0.5-2-3) when flipped/pre flower kicks in.
Looks like it could be a good, easy base mix for an organic soil.
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