Breeding trees outdoor full-term plants experiences

calyxhunter

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What are some peoples. thoughts on breeding with full term plants? i have been doing this for a couple of seasons like 3-4 and have seen a really big difference As opposed to indoor tent breedings. what are some of your thoughts on the two?
 

mandocat

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What are some peoples. thoughts on breeding with full term plants? i have been doing this for a couple of seasons like 3-4 and have seen a really big difference As opposed to indoor tent breedings. what are some of your thoughts on the two?
I always have a couple of plants that I chose from the previous year, running outdoors. I pollinate a cola or 2 on every plant, both my pollen chucks and quality genetics created by commercial breeders. I am trying to find strains that do well outdoors here, so the best way is to grow outdoors and see how they do against molds and pests and wind and heat, ect.. I have also started doing this indoors, beginning last winter. A couple of my indoor crosses are also being grown outdoors this summer. This is my 4th season outdoors and I am finally starting to get it a little dialed in. I am growing in an organic garden plot that we have used and amended for 18 years, so I have good soil and experience growing plants. Learning about breeding and plant genetics has been a fun bonus!
 

mandocat

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Look into the hardy-weinberg rule of genetic equalibrium.. it will help out alot..
Just took a look at a brief synopsis of that. How do you apply this, your self? Also, the summary I viewed had this quote,
"Because all of these disruptive forces commonly occur in nature, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium rarely applies in reality. Therefore, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium describes an idealized state, and genetic variations in nature can be measured as changes from this equilibrium state."
 

farmerfischer

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I was telling him to check it out because it helps give you a better understanding of the variations in progeny when you first start crossing.. like understanding the frequency of the certian traits you might be looking for and how to help isolate for those traits..
 

farmerfischer

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Just took a look at a brief synopsis of that. How do you apply this, your self? Also, the summary I viewed had this quote,
"Because all of these disruptive forces commonly occur in nature, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium rarely applies in reality. Therefore, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium describes an idealized state, and genetic variations in nature can be measured as changes from this equilibrium state."
Ive got a cannabis book around here some where with this rule applied to breeding cannabis and it help me understand better about the whole process.. theres alot more invulved then one would first think..
 

mandocat

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Ive got a cannabis book around here some where with this rule applied to breeding cannabis and it help me understand better about the whole process.. theres alot more invulved then one would first think..
If you find that book please share the title! I probably already have it myself. My approach to outdoor right now is mostly old school farmer, what does the best each year incorporate that into the next. Everything is bred outdoors, as well, so everything is becoming more acclimated as time goes by. I am past the age where I am going to spend years stabilizing a strain, and/or searching for specific traits other than how well it grows outdoors and still has decent potentcy. I wish I had been able to get into this 40 years ago, but jail was too high a price to pay.
 

mudballs

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Just took a look at a brief synopsis of that. How do you apply this, your self? Also, the summary I viewed had this quote,
"Because all of these disruptive forces commonly occur in nature, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium rarely applies in reality. Therefore, the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium describes an idealized state, and genetic variations in nature can be measured as changes from this equilibrium state."
Wellll..if ur indoors breeding...that is the same as the idealized state mentioned. There will not be natural evolutionary forces messing with the offspring to a statistically significant degree. So you could use allele frequency ratio math...mostly.
 

mandocat

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Wellll..if ur indoors breeding...that is the same as the idealized state mentioned. There will not be natural evolutionary forces messing with the offspring to a statistically significant degree. So you could use allele frequency ratio math...mostly.
Good point. But I am outdoors. And so is the OP. Ideally, one could combine indoor and outdoor to speed things up, I guess. One thing I do is to get friends who also grow outdoors, to grow some of my crosses. The more examples of outdoor grown strains I can observe, the better!
 

mandocat

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Sorry..i saw you mentioned mixing indoor and outdoor...pollen on colas...my mistake
No worries! You have a great point about how to view indoor breeding! And I am trying to do both myself, but mostly outdoor. And I do pollenate a cola of everything I grow. Indoors and out.
 
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