Grass Hay smell?

FirstCavApache64

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would you say this batch it ruined? If so, is there anything i can use it for? Hash? Wax?
Alcohol tincture would extract all the stuff you want from the flower and you can use it in drinks, edibles or as a sublingual dose. It can be hard for some people to source the Everclear though. Bubble hash is another good idea as is making butter and using it for edibles.
 

Choctaw

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Alcohol tincture would extract all the stuff you want from the flower and you can use it in drinks, edibles or as a sublingual dose. It can be hard for some people to source the Everclear though. Bubble hash is another good idea as is making butter and using it for edibles.
Do you have a link or some where I can get instructions? I can get the alcohol no issue.

Edit…..I found something on google.
 
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mudballs

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I dried for 7 days. Put in jars and was getting a reading of 56%. I moved it to grove bags and added a boveda pack now sit at 62%.

Will the grass smell go away or should I make edibles or wax from it?

my dry temp/humidity was 75.6F and 45-51% humidity for 7 days and they were crispy to the touch.
After 7 days did you break any big nugs open to see if they were still wet? deep in the nugget needs to be sweated out before jarring....big nugs take longer...then if that gets jarred too early and anaerobic fermentation starts...ur doomed
 

Choctaw

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After 7 days did you break any big nugs open to see if they were still wet? deep in the nugget needs to be sweated out before jarring....big nugs take longer...then if that gets jarred too early and anaerobic fermentation starts...ur doomed
nothing is over golfball size.
 

Herb & Suds

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Do you have a link or some where I can get instructions? I can get the alcohol no issue.

Edit…..I found something on google.
Why not use the search feature on here and give folks a chance to confirm your plan?
We aren’t here to search the web or YouTube
 

Choctaw

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Why not use the search feature on here and give folks a chance to confirm your plan?
We aren’t here to search the web or YouTube
Because the search function on forums don’t pick up short words and you can get more accurate search when you type in what your looking for on google followed by (site: rollitup.org)
 

ShotoMain

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I dried for 7 days. Put in jars and was getting a reading of 56%. I moved it to grove bags and added a boveda pack now sit at 62%.

Will the grass smell go away or should I make edibles or wax from it?

my dry temp/humidity was 75.6F and 45-51% humidity for 7 days and they were crispy to the touch.
Last year my plant was cut down during its 4th week of flowering. After it dried, I put it in grove bags, the hay smell didn't go away until 9-10 months in that bag but now the durban poison has an amazing licorice smell, smokes incredibly smoothly, and the high is not super strong (plant didn't fully mature) but hey it's some bud.
 

Choctaw

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Last year my plant was cut down during its 4th week of flowering. After it dried, I put it in grove bags, the hay smell didn't go away until 9-10 months in that bag but now the durban poison has an amazing licorice smell, smokes incredibly smoothly, and the high is not super strong (plant didn't fully mature) but hey it's some bud.
looks like i need to let it sit until it goes away.
 

ismann

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Hay smell is chlorophyll decaying -- like after you mow the lawn. It's normal to smell it right after chopping the plant and during the drying period, but if you dry slow enough it goes away. Based on your environment numbers, it dried too fast.

Good news is it will go away after awhile in jars. Burp them a couple times per week and you'll start to notice a more pleasant smell after awhile. Bad news is a lot of the volatile esters, alcohols, terpenes have evaporated so it won't smell as good as it could. More good news is it will still get you ripped and you learned some lessons.
 

DrOgkush

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Hay smell is chlorophyll decaying -- like after you mow the lawn. It's normal to smell it right after chopping the plant and during the drying period, but if you dry slow enough it goes away. Based on your environment numbers, it dried too fast.

Good news is it will go away after awhile in jars. Burp them a couple times per week and you'll start to notice a more pleasant smell after awhile. Bad news is a lot of the volatile esters, alcohols, terpenes have evaporated so it won't smell as good as it could. More good news is it will still get you ripped and you learned some lessons.
That’s weird. My bud doesn’t ever have a hay smell. No matter how fast I dry it. I just make sure to go the distance in flower. That’s the only difference I made when I had the hay weed. Haven had it since
 

ismann

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That’s weird. My bud doesn’t ever have a hay smell. No matter how fast I dry it. I just make sure to go the distance in flower. That’s the only difference I made when I had the hay weed. Haven had it since
I can't think of any biochemical way a plant will only smell like grass/hay if you flowered it shorter. All plants have chlorophyll and when it decays that's the smell. If you wet trim, it'll be even worse though.
 

Applechewer

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I can see your potassium manganese boron deficiency. You can't see sulfur deficiency in flower however, you have to smell for it.

I've been meticulously documenting the "mid & reggie versions" of all the established high end flavor profiles by withholding sulfur. (Since the Cannabis scene only has fake sommeliers to date). Go too far and you'll get hay. There's a direct correlation between the fatty acid chain breaks that cause unwanted aromas (c5 and c6 alcohols and aldehydes, aka green leaf volatiles in the case of hay) and improper nutrition.
Love this!
 

Bullmark

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I can see your potassium manganese boron deficiency. You can't see sulfur deficiency in flower however, you have to smell for it.

I've been meticulously documenting the "mid & reggie versions" of all the established high end flavor profiles by withholding sulfur. (Since the Cannabis scene only has fake sommeliers to date). Go too far and you'll get hay. There's a direct correlation between the fatty acid chain breaks that cause unwanted aromas (c5 and c6 alcohols and aldehydes, aka green leaf volatiles in the case of hay) and improper nutrition.
Interesting comments Mr. Lightfoot, coincidental too, as I was listening to “Sundown” in my car just a few min ago….but I digress.
When u mention the potassium, manganese, boron def, are u referring to the crispy sugar leaves? Or what exactly gives it away?
And am I correct in thinking the plant won’t finish out quite the way it should w/ those deficiencies at high levels??
Next, is there a reliable fix once the plant gets so close but remains so far?
Lastly, can you elaborate on the smell, or lack of, associated with a sulfur shortage?
Thanks for sharing such difference making info.
The ranges vary a bit..

some will go down in the 50's ...

But myself I keep it as close to 60/60 as I can..

But the higher your temps get, the faster your nugs will dry out..
 

Bullmark

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That’s weird. My bud doesn’t ever have a hay smell. No matter how fast I dry it. I just make sure to go the distance in flower. That’s the only difference I made when I had the hay weed. Haven had it since
U may be on to something there. It’s getting better but I still think the majority of plants are harvested too early. I have some photos starting their 8th week of 12/12 and they reek, are frosty as hell, and have many pistils that have turned orange. I’m guessing another month….give or take. For the heck of it I broke out the jeweler’s loupe and there were quite a few cloudy trichs and even a few ambers on the calyces. Of course the sugar leaves had tons of both.
There are a lot of growers that would chop that plant right now, or even worse, flush it.
My last harvest was small Gelato auto (maybe the last auto I ever grow) that I grew while vegging my current indoor and outdoor photos.
She got very ripe and turned out amazing, but my drying options were limited. I was forced to dry in 70-72f with a 58-60% rh, which isn’t terrible. But the plant was so small it dried in 7 days and was at 58% after jarring, so much more drying time would have cooked the cure.
Anyway, those buds smelled great, just like they did while growing, from day 1 of jarring and still do 6 weeks later.
I don’t pretend to know the science behind drying/curing and the resulting aromas. Until someone invents something that is turn key, I’ll shoot for 60f and 60%rh and try to make the dry take as long as possible.
 

Choctaw

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U may be on to something there. It’s getting better but I still think the majority of plants are harvested too early. I have some photos starting their 8th week of 12/12 and they reek, are frosty as hell, and have many pistils that have turned orange. I’m guessing another month….give or take. For the heck of it I broke out the jeweler’s loupe and there were quite a few cloudy trichs and even a few ambers on the calyces. Of course the sugar leaves had tons of both.
There are a lot of growers that would chop that plant right now, or even worse, flush it.
My last harvest was small Gelato auto (maybe the last auto I ever grow) that I grew while vegging my current indoor and outdoor photos.
She got very ripe and turned out amazing, but my drying options were limited. I was forced to dry in 70-72f with a 58-60% rh, which isn’t terrible. But the plant was so small it dried in 7 days and was at 58% after jarring, so much more drying time would have cooked the cure.
Anyway, those buds smelled great, just like they did while growing, from day 1 of jarring and still do 6 weeks later.
I don’t pretend to know the science behind drying/curing and the resulting aromas. Until someone invents something that is turn key, I’ll shoot for 60f and 60%rh and try to make the dry take as long as possible.
I harvested early I think. But I had amber trichomes. These dang autoflowers run as long as photos. Im on week 15 from seed on a banana kush auto now and still have white pistils.
 

DrOgkush

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I can't think of any biochemical way a plant will only smell like grass/hay if you flowered it shorter. All plants have chlorophyll and when it decays that's the smell. If you wet trim, it'll be even worse though.
I don’t know what you mean. But if you grew enough, You would know that when you harvest to soon. The weed smells like under a lawnmower. I mean. Every seasoned gardener knows this. And that wet trim dry trim bullshit.
where are you getting this? I do whatever I feel like when time comes. As long as I flower the distance. Usually 70 days or longer. I’ve never had a hay smell. That’s from experience Not google.
 
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