Herb & Suds
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I don’t think the international community would be to alarmed after he used nukes
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Roger A. Shrubber
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moscow has nearly 12 million residents...it wouldn't look that great on the world stage to poison 12 million people to get one man, or even 100 men.
DIY-HP-LED
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I don't think this offensive cost the Ukrainians much at all, from all reports once they broke through, the local militia troops the Russians dragooned into service ran like Hell, they abandoned many towns before the Ukrainians showed up. If they bring troops from Kherson they will need to leave their equipment and supplies behind, since the bridges are now all gone and ferries have become death traps. By holding them in the south, they could gain the whole area around Kherson, as the Russians abandon equipment and swim for it, fuel and ammo must increasingly be an issue for them.The Ministry of Defense explained the retreat of troops from Izyum and Balakliya
Russian troops in the areas of Izyum and Balakliya were regrouped to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction, this was done in order to achieve the goals of the special operation in Ukraine. So the retreat from the two cities was explained in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation , as the official representative of the department, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov , told reporters .
According to him, the operation to curtail and transfer the Izyum-Balakley group of Russian troops to the territory of the DPR was carried out within three days. For the sake of this, the RF Armed Forces carried out diversionary measures, indicating the real actions of the troops.
“In order to prevent damage to Russian troops, a powerful fire defeat was inflicted on the enemy using aviation, missile troops and artillery,” the Defense Ministry added, announcing the destruction of more than two thousand Ukrainian military personnel and foreign mercenaries during these three days.
Earlier it became known that Russian units had to leave Izyum.
On September 8, it became known about the beginning of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Kharkiv region towards the cities of Balakleya , Izyum and Kupyansk .
Минобороны объяснило отступление войск из Изюма и Балаклеи
Российские войска в районах Изюма и Балаклеи были перегруппированы для наращивания усилий на донецком направлении, это делалось в целях достижения целей спецоперации на Украине. Так отступление из двух городов объяснили в Минобороны РФ. Операция по свертыванию и переброске группировки проведена...lenta-ru.translate.goog
Putin said that the participants of the special operation give their lives for Russia
Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the participants in the special operation are giving their lives for Russia. The head of state spoke about this during an event on the occasion of the 875th anniversary of the founding of Moscow.
“The servicemen who died during the special military operation gave their lives for Russia,” he said. His words are broadcast by the Russia 24 TV channel. Putin also explained that specialists from Moscow, in difficult conditions, are doing everything to prepare Donetsk and Luhansk for the winter period.
Earlier URA.RU reported that in Russia the number of citizens who trust the President of the Russian Federation has increased . Judging by the VTsIOM poll, the approval rate for the president’s activities from August 29 to September 4, 2022 was 76.8%. Putin also raised the issue of providing housing for military personnel at a meeting of the Security Council, writes RT .
Путин заявил, что участники спецоперации отдают жизнь за Россию
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The head of the special forces "Akhmat": about a third of the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed near Kharkov
Approximately a third of the Ukrainian forces thrown into the offensive in the south and in the Kharkiv region were destroyed. This was announced by the head of the special forces "Akhmat" Apti Alaudinov.
“Forces abandoned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a counteroffensive in the south and in the Kharkiv region cannot change the general course of the war, no matter how hard they try. I can state that a third of these forces have been disabled, ”Alaudinov said on the air of the Solovyov Live program.
Earlier, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an offensive in the direction of the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, the Russian military repelled all attacks, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Also, Ukrainian troops tried to attack the Kupyansky district of the Kharkov region.
Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya said that there could be no question of any “breakthrough” of the Ukrainian troops during their “counteroffensive”. " National News Service " reported that the authorities of the Kherson region captured the participants in the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Глава спецназа «Ахмат»: примерно треть резервов ВСУ уничтожена под Харьковом
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The Ministry of Finance spoke about the difficulties with the budget of Russia
The Russian budget for the next three years will be the most difficult in a professional career for Finance Minister Anton Siluanov . He admitted this on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel, TASS quotes .
“I think that the budget for the upcoming three years will be the most difficult in my professional career,” he said.
Earlier, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin spoke about the growth in oil and gas revenues of the Russian budget after the introduction of Western sanctions - it increased by almost 50 percent. For his part, the head of the Accounts Chamber of Russia, Alexei Kudrin , noted that the main weakness of the Russian economy is still dependence on the export of hydrocarbons.
Economic Development Minister Maxim Reshetnikov assured that the situation in the Russian economy as a whole is now better than expected.
Минобороны сообщило о перегруппировке войск в районах Балаклеи и Изюма
Российские войска из Балаклеи и Изюма перегруппировали на Донецкое направление для достижения заявленных целей специальной военной операции по освобождению... РИА Новости, 12.09.2022ria-ru.translate.goog
DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians could take out Putin, just not with American weapons, but Ukraine is a fairly advanced country with access to global technology markets...
DIY-HP-LED
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We are talking about retaliation for using nukes on Ukrainian cities, we might have little say...
Bagginski
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ROOSHA is the place that *may* be considering that crackpot ‘advice’…but it’s also the player with the most to lose at this point: taking ANY ‘nuclear action‘ at this stage would be a permanent L for Putinia, an ineradicable reduction in status, place, & influence - not even counting the almost-certain glow-in-the-dark ‘lighting upgrade’ induced by NATO retaliation. But that may not even happen….
Consider the impact of a massive retreat of angry, desperate soldiers returning *armed & hell-bent* to Mama Bear with payback on their minds - what’s left of an angry army that…isn’t mad at *Ukraine*, but at the Putin state, the delusional legacy of the CCCP, and their betrayal by their commanders.
It could spark the fire that burns down what remains of czarism, sovietization, and forced peonage; why would those tens of thousands who’ve been freezing, starving, and dying for six months on Putin’s orders be dissuaded from vengeance after what they’ve endure FOR NO REASON? And why would Vladdie-poo nuke *EUROPE* when his “army of denazification” is IN HIS LAP? Such a move would lead to *extermination*; even if NATO withheld a nuclear response, the financial & political response would make current sanctions seem like a scolding: sealing the borders to trap the kleptocrat elite with the chickens who’ve come home to roost (“welcome to the THUNDERDOME!”), targeted small-scale operations to seize & defend the Nordstream pipeline, seizure of ALL ASSETS & PROPERTY in Rooskiyi-owned or controlled accounts, expulsion from the UN Security Council & ISS, arrest of all agents & personnel outside ‘greater Russia’, abrogation of all treaties & agreements w/ the Putin regime, interdiction entire.
That said, here’s this mornin’s update:
Ukraine update: Izyum is liberated! Kupyansk is liberated!
In a day that caps what has been an already incredible offensive freeing of thousands of square kilometers in northeast Ukraine, Saturday morning brought news that seems too perfect to be true: Russian forces have reportedly either fled or surrendered...
www.dailykos.com
JamieThePainter
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No they wouldn't be. If we replied with nukes the international community would likely be too dead for that.
Herb & Suds
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I never said Nukes I said assignation of the dear leader
Bagginski
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Would *love* to know how you arrived at that assessment
Herb & Suds
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If Putin suddenly fell 14 stories from his hospital bed
Just my hope for humanity
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
a honey trap?
Bagginski
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An as-yet unrealized bit of fallout from all this: anti-drone defense will be the core of R&D going forward.
Herb & Suds
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Let’s send Ivanka
DIY-HP-LED
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If he won't declare war and mobilize, he is unlikely to use nukes in Ukraine, but a reactor could blow up and he might get blow back for that. Vlad must be staying away from windows in high buildings lately, he's getting to be too heavy a burden for the nation to endure. This war won't end with the liberation of all of Ukraine, it will spread to Belarus and people are preparing for it. The Poles and Ukrainians are tight as ticks and Belarus is the next domino to fall and the thing that finishes off Vlad's army and perhaps Vlad himself. This war presents dangers and problems, but it also provides opportunities and Poland wants a better class of neighbor and to move the frontline with Russia to the east. There would be regime change there supported and recognized by Ukraine and Poland, others too, not an invasion, any violence would be focused on the Russians there or their Quislings.ROOSHA is the place that *may* be considering that crackpot ‘advice’…but it’s also the player with the most to lose at this point: taking ANY ‘nuclear action‘ at this stage would be a permanent L for Putinia, an ineradicable reduction in status, place, & influence - not even counting the almost-certain glow-in-the-dark ‘lighting upgrade’ induced by NATO retaliation. But that may not even happen….
Consider the impact of a massive retreat of angry, desperate soldiers returning *armed & hell-bent* to Mama Bear with payback on their minds - what’s left of an angry army that…isn’t mad at *Ukraine*, but at the Putin state, the delusional legacy of the CCCP, and their betrayal by their commanders.
It could spark the fire that burns down what remains of czarism, sovietization, and forced peonage; why would those tens of thousands who’ve been freezing, starving, and dying for six months on Putin’s orders be dissuaded from vengeance after what they’ve endure FOR NO REASON? And why would Vladdie-poo nuke *EUROPE* when his “army of denazification” is IN HIS LAP? Such a move would lead to *extermination*; even if NATO withheld a nuclear response, the financial & political response would make current sanctions seem like a scolding: sealing the borders to trap the kleptocrat elite with the chickens who’ve come home to roost (“welcome to the THUNDERDOME!”), targeted small-scale operations to seize & defend the Nordstream pipeline, seizure of ALL ASSETS & PROPERTY in Rooskiyi-owned or controlled accounts, expulsion from the UN Security Council & ISS, arrest of all agents & personnel outside ‘greater Russia’, abrogation of all treaties & agreements w/ the Putin regime, interdiction entire.
That said, here’s this mornin’s update:
Ukraine update: Izyum is liberated! Kupyansk is liberated!
In a day that caps what has been an already incredible offensive freeing of thousands of square kilometers in northeast Ukraine, Saturday morning brought news that seems too perfect to be true: Russian forces have reportedly either fled or surrendered...www.dailykos.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
you are committing the slippery slope fallacy.
JamieThePainter
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Oh I hope so. Far too many warning signs lately that the core of R&D in 2023 onwards will be sticks n stones.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
that would certainly be trying something new.Let’s send Ivanka
Herb & Suds
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Jared approved
Bagginski
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Your comment read as if you meant the international community wouldn’t be alarmed if Putin used nukes in Ukraine or elsewhere as part of the ‘special military operation’. Defenestration requires BOOTS ON THE GROUND…and Pootie’s lap-President already burned much if not all of our undercover presence in Putinia…and you mentioned drones at the top of this line of thought. Drones aren’t going to find his room, pull him out of the closet, & fling him out the window.
I say, let’s see if the returning ‘army of special operation’ handles the situation: after XPrezBaby Puke, we need to stick to the high road just as well as we possibly can: losing credibility at such a time would haunt us for decades.
’Beware of those who have nothing left to lose’
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
wouldn’t that be as bad as fighting Hydra with a sword?