Libertarianism makes you stupid

[cannabineer]

Given this thread, Polis is quite on point and comes up as a left leaning libertarian quite often. https://reason.com/podcast/2022/04/25/jared-polis-the-most-libertarian-governor-in-america/

I think he's just a pragmatist.

His tax plan is poo.

 

[CunningCanuk]

I'm responding to the poster in kind.

I'm not a very nice person to assholes. I'll let others try to reason with them. I think trying to do so is just falling into the troll's trap.

Regarding that story, yes, I've used it several times. It's no joke, it is an analogy that is meant to both explain and diminish.

It’s the first time I read the story and I enjoyed it. I expect I will enjoy reading it again too, if I’m not the asshole it’s meant to diminish.

 

[HGCC]

His tax plan is poo.

Well...libertarians gonna libertaire.

 

[cannabineer]

Well...libertarians gonna libertaire.

Considering that small government is a libertarian idée fixe, and that the institutions of any left-of-center government are both extensive and expensive,

I’m having trouble with “left-leaning libertarian”. It sounds oxymoronic.

 

[schuylaar]

Libertarians all have genital herpes.

My logic is incontrovertible.

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I find the meme above of some freaky preternatural of interest.

Messages? I like the morph to alien face.

 

[schuylaar]

I'm responding to the poster in kind.

I'm not a very nice person to assholes. I'll let others try to reason with them. I think trying to do so is just falling into the troll's trap.

Regarding that story, yes, I've used it several times. It's no joke, it is an analogy that is meant to both explain and diminish.

I knowwwwwwww, just wanted to yank your chain.

 

[Fogdog]

Considering that small government is a libertarian idée fixe, and that the institutions of any left-of-center government are both extensive and expensive,

I’m having trouble with “left-leaning libertarian”. It sounds oxymoronic.

US libertarians are hard right who would have property rights given priority to human rights.

European libertarians are an entirely different thing. They hew to the "liberty" root of the word and they are most def leftist. In the US, the term was hijacked for propaganda purposes in the 1940's-50's. Koch money was involved and some conservative of the day even bragged about corrupting the term to fit Republican conservativism. Goldwater ran on the policy and failed to attract more than a handful of electoral college votes. Voters saw through the shabby disguise. It only worked in the South, where they want to have their small gubmint back.

 

[schuylaar]

It’s the first time I read the story and I enjoyed it. I expect I will enjoy reading it again too, if I’m not the asshole it’s meant to diminish.

I'm a huge @Fogdog fangirl and read as much as I can.

 

[schuylaar]

US libertarians are hard right who would have property rights given priority to human rights.

European libertarians are an entirely different thing. They hew to the "liberty" root of the word and they are most def leftist. In the US, the term was hijacked for propaganda purposes in the 1940's-50's. Koch money was involved and some conservative of the day even bragged about corrupting the term to fit Republican conservativism. Goldwater ran on the policy and failed to attract more than a handful of electoral college votes. Voters saw through the shabby disguise. It only worked in the South, where they want to have their small gubmint back.

Christian Nation near your doorstep..they get people involved 24/7 lose touch with the outside..tithe all you have or your whole SS check...the key to the Mega Church..

Controversial church aims to ‘make Moscow a Christian town’

An area of progressive values in a part of the state and country that is deeply red, Moscow is just about perfect for a lot of residents. But leaders of Christ Church say they’re trying to evangelize in an area that has shown indifference toward religion, prompting tension in the city of roughly...

www.spokesman.com

..And Christian Nation.

 

[hillbill]

When the Right Rags start talking Property Rights, Human Rights fade.

 

[schuylaar]

Given this thread, Polis is quite on point and comes up as a left leaning libertarian quite often. https://reason.com/podcast/2022/04/25/jared-polis-the-most-libertarian-governor-in-america/

I think he's just a pragmatist.

I believe he does what is fair and right for ALL in this state..fuck the title; you can call it whatever you want.

We need to stop in terms of blue and red; rather right or wrong.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I’m having trouble with libertarian. It sounds moronic

fify

 

[dstroy]

When the Right Rags start talking Property Rights, Human Rights fade.

It grinds my gears every time an innocent dies because our ham fisted police are busy protecting property instead of people.

 

[Friendly_Grower]

What is the position of Libertarians in regards to "Corporations are people?"

 

[hillbill]

Listening closely on the hill

 

[cannabineer]

If it's not Libertarian it's simply Fascist.

Libertarianism is well defined.

Nothing personal you're just wrong.

actually,

 

[Fogdog]

If it's not Libertarian it's simply Fascist.

Libertarianism is well defined.

Nothing personal you're just wrong.

Says the person who believes he can recreate all human knowledge just by thinking about it.

I'm not saying you are just wrong but I'd start with that.

I do agree that the radical right aren't constrained by common English and just make up their own meanings to words. So it can mean something completely different from what it meant just a week ago which was different from what it meant a week before that.

Unsurprisingly, Russian culture has a metaphor for that kind of thinking.

 

[cannabineer]

Says the person who believes he can recreate all human knowledge just by thinking about it.

I'm not saying you are just wrong but I'd start with that.

I do agree that the radical right aren't constrained by common English and just make up their own meanings to words. So it can mean something completely different from what it meant just a week ago which was different from what it meant a week before that.

Unsurprisingly, Russian culture has a metaphor for that kind of thinking.

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[Fogdog]

Christian Nation near your doorstep..they get people involved 24/7 lose touch with the outside..tithe all you have or your whole SS check...the key to the Mega Church..

Controversial church aims to ‘make Moscow a Christian town’

An area of progressive values in a part of the state and country that is deeply red, Moscow is just about perfect for a lot of residents. But leaders of Christ Church say they’re trying to evangelize in an area that has shown indifference toward religion, prompting tension in the city of roughly...

www.spokesman.com

..And Christian Nation.

I lived in Idaho for almost ten years. Moved away about 20 years ago. Loved the state. Loved the people. Hated the politics.

It was conservative when I lived there but nothing like it has become. Shortly after I moved there from CA for a job and for the adventure of it, the Idaho Republican controlled legislature passed a very restrictive abortion law. The then Democratic governor vetoed it. The next year became the first and last fully Democratic Party controlled legislature. The good conservative people of Idaho pilloried Republican lawmakers for stepping on their rights.

Now, it's completely different. They've gone so hard far right. I didn't know about that church but am not surprised.

 

[Rob Roy]

Libertarians do not believe in insurance.