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BudmanTX
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Bagginski
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A Monday update - despite the proud-dad moment, it’s about the fundamental differences between Russian military training & operational structure vs “the NATO style”, ie, *ours*. Interesting & informative.
Ukraine update: As Russia mobilizes, here's what a well-trained army looks like
Mark Sumner was awesome this past week, covering Ukraine through the weekend, on his days off, giving me space to spend precious time with my son Ari at Fort Benning, Georgia between his graduation from infantry advanced training, and entering the...
www.dailykos.com
BudmanTX
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awww pooty needs to relax with all this turmoil around him.......
www.businessinsider.com
Putin has escaped to a secret palace in a forest amid anti-draft protests in Russian cities, report says
Journalist Farida Rusamova has claimed that Vladimir Putin is released pre-recorded videos sporadically to hide his absence from the Russian public.
www.businessinsider.com
Roger A. Shrubber
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i know this is kind of dumb, but it's too bad we don't have an attractive place to offer the Taiwanese to resettle to, lock, stock, and barrel...
the chinese seem to want Taiwan for at least two reasons...they consider it historically theirs, even though they can see how well that line of reasoning worked out for russia, and, they want the high tech industry...
if we could just help the Taiwanese pack up everything that will pack up, and move it all out asap into a new home, then the chinese could have the island and it's empty buildings...
yeah, i know it's stupid, but the alternative is just about as stupid...eventually have to fight the chinese over this, with a lot of deaths on both sides.
BudmanTX
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china wants tiawan for it infrastructure since they have the best in the world, they want to take it over, also Taiwan is also the top computer chip manufacturer....lot of major companies are there too...people like Apple, IBM....etc
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I am emphatically not in favor of accommodating Chinese imperialist designs.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm just fantasizing about a way to save the Taiwanese from a worse fate than the Ukrainians, while reducing the value of the "prize" china wants so badly...with all the Taiwanese gone, and all of the machinery to run their chip industry gone, it would just be another big, empty bunch of buildings for the chinese to watch crumble over time.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-26/putin-gives-us-fugitive-edward-snowden-russian-citizenship?cmpid==socialflow-twitter-asia&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=asia&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic
here i thought snowden was already a russian agent....guess it's official now
here i thought snowden was already a russian agent....guess it's official now
BudmanTX
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i just caught that in a feed i watch......
BudmanTX
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BudmanTX
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ok pooty you go relax in your hidden mansion......meanwhile.....
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Ceding them territory is like feeding them after midnight.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i get your point, but my point would be that the territory ceded to them would be a useless rock, with all the equipment and people who make it valuable gone...they get what they demanded and threatened about, but none of the things that actually made it more than another largish island...and the Taiwanese would get to carry on with business as usual, after a short adjustment period, without the looming spector of china always staring at them ...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
and I am saying the cost exceeds the benefit.
There is also the teenytiny problem of finding livable territory that has not been developed or made parkland.
printer
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Attacks mount in Russia after Putin troop mobilization
A number of attacks on Russian authorities have been reported since President Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a partial call-up of troops to join his struggling seven-month war in Ukraine.
In a statement on Monday, Russian authorities said that a 25-year-old male individual opened fire at a military registration and enlistment office in Ust-Ilimsk, resulting in a Kremlin military commander being critically wounded.
A video of the incident also showed the suspect firing at least one shot at the military commander as bystanders fled the office.
The military commander was transported to a nearby medical facility and the suspect was arrested and placed into custody, authorities said.
The shooter’s mother told a Russian media outlet that her son, Ruslan Zinin, was upset about his close friend being drafted into the conflict, despite having little to no military experience, according to The New York Times.
“Ruslan was very upset because of this, because his friend did not serve in the army,” Zinin’s mother told the local media outlet. “They said that there would be partial mobilization, but it turns out that they are taking everyone.”
In a statement through social media platform Telegram, Irkutsk region Gov. Igor Kobzev said the military commander is in critical condition and is “fighting for his life.”
“I can’t wrap my head around what happened, and I am ashamed that this is happening at a time when, on the contrary, we should be united,” Kobzev wrote in his statement.
In a separate incident, authorities said that a suspect rammed his vehicle into the entrance of a military recruitment center in Uryupinsk early Monday morning, setting the center on fire after throwing Molotov cocktails, according to The Wall Street Journal.
According to Russian independent news outlet Mediazona, there have been 17 targeted attacks on military recruitment centers and administrative buildings since Putin’s announcement of partial troop mobilization last week, which came as Ukraine has made significant gains in reclaiming its territory.
Mediazona also noted that in total 54 attacks on military recruitment centers and administrative buildings happened since Russia’s conflict with neighboring Ukraine began in February.
Thousands of Russians are fleeing or attempting to flee the country to avoid possible conscription.
Putin made the mobilization announcement in a televised address, marking the first time Russia has called up another round of troops since World War II, with Kremlin officials specifying that up to 300,000 individuals could be called up to join the military.
Putin’s announcement sparked demonstrations across dozen of Russian cities, leading authorities to arrest up to 2,356 protesters as of Sunday, according to Russia-based human rights organization OVD-Info.
Also on Monday, at least 15 people were killed and another 24 wounded in a school shooting in central Russia, though the shooter’s motive remains unknown.
thehill.com
A number of attacks on Russian authorities have been reported since President Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a partial call-up of troops to join his struggling seven-month war in Ukraine.
In a statement on Monday, Russian authorities said that a 25-year-old male individual opened fire at a military registration and enlistment office in Ust-Ilimsk, resulting in a Kremlin military commander being critically wounded.
A video of the incident also showed the suspect firing at least one shot at the military commander as bystanders fled the office.
The military commander was transported to a nearby medical facility and the suspect was arrested and placed into custody, authorities said.
The shooter’s mother told a Russian media outlet that her son, Ruslan Zinin, was upset about his close friend being drafted into the conflict, despite having little to no military experience, according to The New York Times.
“Ruslan was very upset because of this, because his friend did not serve in the army,” Zinin’s mother told the local media outlet. “They said that there would be partial mobilization, but it turns out that they are taking everyone.”
In a statement through social media platform Telegram, Irkutsk region Gov. Igor Kobzev said the military commander is in critical condition and is “fighting for his life.”
“I can’t wrap my head around what happened, and I am ashamed that this is happening at a time when, on the contrary, we should be united,” Kobzev wrote in his statement.
In a separate incident, authorities said that a suspect rammed his vehicle into the entrance of a military recruitment center in Uryupinsk early Monday morning, setting the center on fire after throwing Molotov cocktails, according to The Wall Street Journal.
According to Russian independent news outlet Mediazona, there have been 17 targeted attacks on military recruitment centers and administrative buildings since Putin’s announcement of partial troop mobilization last week, which came as Ukraine has made significant gains in reclaiming its territory.
Mediazona also noted that in total 54 attacks on military recruitment centers and administrative buildings happened since Russia’s conflict with neighboring Ukraine began in February.
Thousands of Russians are fleeing or attempting to flee the country to avoid possible conscription.
Putin made the mobilization announcement in a televised address, marking the first time Russia has called up another round of troops since World War II, with Kremlin officials specifying that up to 300,000 individuals could be called up to join the military.
Putin’s announcement sparked demonstrations across dozen of Russian cities, leading authorities to arrest up to 2,356 protesters as of Sunday, according to Russia-based human rights organization OVD-Info.
Also on Monday, at least 15 people were killed and another 24 wounded in a school shooting in central Russia, though the shooter’s motive remains unknown.
Attacks mount in Russia after Putin troop mobilization
A number of attacks on Russian authorities have been reported since President Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a partial call-up of troops to join his struggling seven-month war in Ukraine. I…
thehill.com
printer
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I once said that we should have given the Jews Prince Edward Island after WWII and then the ME would not have been the mess it is (well sort of). Taiwan infrastructure is huge, the buildings even without the machinery would be many trillions. The last hospital building we added to our medical complex was half a billion. Also the people may like the climate, not a lot of good options for them to relocate to that Trump has not looked at although I have hear the North Koreans may have some beach front land available.
Roger A. Shrubber
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Please recall where i said this was probably a bad idea, and a fantasy. It was just a what if, if we had a suitable place for them, if they would be willing. I don't know how nationalistic the Taiwanese are, how attached they are to their "ancestral lands".
If they could successfully move their entire country without it causing crippling debt, if the chinese would be happy with the empty island, with no industrial base, and no operators for that now nonexistent industrial base.
If a lot of other things i probably wouldn't ever think of without prompting.
Maybe they should negotiate with musk, and colonize the moon...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I will still point out the parts I think are a bad idea, and why. It’s not personal.
As for this iteration, I’ll say let’s not dignify the Muskmelon by treating him as if he had diplomatic sway. On a technical level, Shartsip is unproven. Its big use (if it works!) will be orbital flights for fifty passengers at a time, giving the high hard one to Branson and Bezos.
That, and hundreds of Starlitter crapsats at one go.
Also, the moon isn’t real estate under the terms of an international treaty. Though seeing crater slopes planted with the terraced verdure of Camellia sinica var. vacuodura would be sort of pretty.
