The US interests in the Nord Stream sabotages

Highway61

Well-Known Member
The Ukrainians are valiantly fighting back. This could develop into a long-drawn out war, the implications of it would be a considerable economic weakening of Europe, when Asia continues to soar high.
The only economic downside to western Europe of a drawn out war in Ukraine is their need to find alternative fossil fuels while they are being phased out by solar, wind, and nuclear. Makes no difference in their competition vs China.
 

Fogdog

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All that Putin wanted, was a land corridor to the Krim. Even the attack on Kiew from many directions was a ruse. But he is a damn coward for not formulating an official war declaration. And we really should reconsider if we want to trade with these warmongers but when the pipelines are already there, let's use them. But it will be next to impossible to shield the transpart from terroristic attack, when the perpetrator is a technological advanced institution.
Putin shut off gas supplies through NS1. What exactly do you propose the EU should have done about that?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Schröder is very pro-Soviet and after his lefty political career ended he sought ties to become affiliated with the eastern energy market.
What did he contribute? What was his role?

in retaliation of western sanctions.
Right. It is economic warfare. Same as the sanctions against Russia. It's going to rebound against Russia in the form of lost revenue and eventually, loss in the ability to replace the arms he's wasted in this useless war but, it is war nonetheless.

I don't understand why you put the US into the middle of the nord stream sabotage. Other than Traitor Carlson's act of aid and comfort to the enemy, there is no benefit to the US from this act of sabotage and some harm in the form of higher lng gas prices.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What did he contribute? What was his role?


Right. It is economic warfare. Same as the sanctions against Russia. It's going to rebound against Russia in the form of lost revenue and eventually, loss in the ability to replace the arms he's wasted in this useless war but, it is war nonetheless.

I don't understand why you put the US into the middle of the nord stream sabotage. Other than Traitor Carlson's act of aid and comfort to the enemy, there is no benefit to the US from this act of sabotage and some harm in the form of higher lng gas prices.
this one speaks from both sides of his e-mouth.

I think a Russian false-flag operation is plausible. “Nichevo, cannot repair by winter, you freeze ass off, is shame”
But how probable or not, shrug
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
this one speaks from both sides of his e-mouth.

I think a Russian false-flag operation is plausible. “Nichevo, cannot repair by winter, you freeze ass off, is shame”
But how probable or not, shrug
The pipeline may become a total loss.


But German security agencies fear that Nord Stream 1 will become unusable if large volumes of salt water flow into the pipes and cause corrosion, German newspaper Tagesspiegel reported, citing government sources.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
All that Putin wanted, was a land corridor to the Krim. Even the attack on Kiew from many directions was a ruse. But he is a damn coward for not formulating an official war declaration. And we really should reconsider if we want to trade with these warmongers but when the pipelines are already there, let's use them. But it will be next to impossible to shield the transpart from terroristic attack, when the perpetrator is a technological advanced institution.
how do you know if they're technologically advanced? a few grand for a rc sub and some explosives...any slavic navy could have done it in an afternoon...like...i dunno...the guys who were seen in the vicinity on satellite right before it happened?.... :o
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Gas sales. Bingo!!! locking out and weakening their direct opponent.. their dirty and expensive refracked gas !!!

Because we all remember, not so long ago, Ted Cruz and a bunch of other senators public outcries about the then soon to come completion of NS2. Their speeches reveil a number of potential moralistic and economic motives. Certainly the US has the means to easily pull that stunt to damage important Russian property.

And, it has A REAL INTEREST to have no gasflow in NS1&2.
Also, the current enforced media redderick also raises doubts about the legitimacy of unproven claims of the nature of the perpetrator.
redderick?

Leave my brother out of this.

enjoy the trumpcoins, but those who did this are the same people that blew up Dugina and those four apartment buildings in 1999.
 

mudballs

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You think we flew over there and blew up jointly owned Russian shit? You are fkn mental if you do. The only way we do that is if we were asked and it would have to have been a mega fkn deal to risk our involvement. You guys think you understand the world and how it works? ...then why tf are you potheads instead the people in charge?
 

Highway61

Well-Known Member
Saw a report that suggests that the folks who attacked the pipeline appear to have been careful to attack in areas that were not NATO territory to avoid the "attack against one is an attack against all" of NATO. Doesn't prove anything conclusively but would have been a Russian concern if one faction or another from Russia were responsible.
 

Kassiopeija

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I don't understand why you put the US into the middle of the nord stream sabotage.
because personally the only critic vs NS2 came out of exactly that direction. I wanna follow up on this lead to elucidate the viability of this theory. As for now, until they find hardware, not much else can be done.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
Saw a report that suggests that the folks who attacked the pipeline appear to have been careful to attack in areas that were not NATO territory to avoid the "attack against one is an attack against all" of NATO. Doesn't prove anything conclusively but would have been a Russian concern if one faction or another from Russia were responsible.
As I sit here having moved the remainder of my crop inside as the remainder of Ian dumps rain on my location,I can't find any other conclusion that does not have Putin's fingerprints all over it.
 
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