Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

ActionianJacksonian · Oct 5, 2022

Fogdog said:
yes, yes, it is known that Libertarians reject science and math and embrace what they are told is true by their chosen ones.

You should stop doing red/blue and try just doing true/false for a few years. Then at least you could say you're not part of the problem.

Fogdog · Oct 5, 2022

shimbob said:
Wow, $3.46M and a staff of 5 people, that's a profitable grift.

"one of the top ten global health threats of 2019 " :lol:

Oh hell yeah. Gimme my medical advice from them!

shimbob · Oct 5, 2022

Funny.

“I know you are, but what am I?” Dr. Aseem Malhotra rails against COVID-19 “misinformation”

Projection is a common defense mechanism used by those spreading health misinformation and disinformation. Last week Dr. Aseem Malhotra published part 2 of a plan to cure "the pandemic of misinformati

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mooray · Oct 5, 2022

PJ Diaz said:
So does Dr. Aseem Malhotra, who's recent findings shocked even himself.

Biography - Dr Aseem Malhotra

doctoraseem.com

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Kinda seems like he started as a doctor and then found more success doing other stuff..? Looks like he turned into more of a public figure. Look at the current direct medical practicing that Gorski guy is doing. Aseem seems more like the mid-level engineer that went into management, versus Gorski the mid-level engineer that became a senior engineer. One you would seek for business info, the other you would seek for high level technical info.

cannabineer · Oct 5, 2022

mooray said:
Kinda seems like he started as a doctor and then found more success doing other stuff..? Looks like he turned into more of a public figure. Look at the current direct medical practicing that Gorski guy is doing. Aseem seems more like the mid-level engineer that went into management, versus Gorski the mid-level engineer that became a senior engineer. One you would seek for business info, the other you would seek for high level technical info.

or Dr. No.

PJ Diaz · Oct 5, 2022

shimbob said:
Funny.

“I know you are, but what am I?” Dr. Aseem Malhotra rails against COVID-19 “misinformation”

Projection is a common defense mechanism used by those spreading health misinformation and disinformation. Last week Dr. Aseem Malhotra published part 2 of a plan to cure "the pandemic of misinformati

sciencebasedmedicine.org

Trying to paint him as an anti-vaxxer is ridiculous. He still supports all other vaccines, and this is from the article you posted:

Fogdog · Oct 5, 2022

ActionianJacksonian said:
You should stop doing red/blue and try just doing true/false for a few years. Then at least you could say you're not part of the problem.

This is what the creators of US Libertarian ideology say about themselves. Libertarianism rejects math and science in favor of made up axioms.

I didn't make it up. Nor is it partisan. This from the people who invented your made up version of economic ideology:

What is the Mises Institute? | Mises Institute

Mission StatementThe Mises Institute is a non-profit organization that exists to promote teaching and research in the Austrian school of economics, and

mises.org

The Mises Institute exists to promote teaching and research in the Austrian school of economics, and individual freedom, honest history, and international peace, in the tradition of Ludwig von Mises and Murray N. Rothbard. These great thinkers developed praxeology, a deductive science of human action based on premises known with certainty to be true, and this is what we teach and advocate. Our scholarly work is founded in Misesian praxeology, and in self-conscious opposition to the mathematical modeling and hypothesis-testing that has created so much confusion in neoclassical economics.

It's an insidious, cynical view of the world. "What we believe runs counter to what can be proven, therefore we reject what can be shown to be true in favor of what we want to believe". That kind of thinking runs through everything you say.

ActionianJacksonian · Oct 5, 2022

PJ Diaz said:
It's not much of a surprise than virtually all entities are dropping their mandates like a hot potato, and walking away with their tail between their legs. At my work, we've had hundreds of covid cases, and literally only one case has been from an unvaccinated person, and they were only infected because their live-in parent picked it up on a trip.

Deep down I think we all know much of what we see these days is a ruse. Hippies that once protested the Vietnam War are now pushing WW3 and vax mandates. I suspect it's simply Cloward-Piven renamed Build Back Better.

mooray · Oct 5, 2022

What's a WW3 vax mandate??

Herb & Suds · Oct 5, 2022

Fogdog · Oct 5, 2022

ActionianJacksonian said:
Deep down I think we all know much of what we see these days is a ruse. Hippies that once protested the Vietnam War are now pushing WW3 and vax mandates. I suspect it's simply Cloward-Piven renamed Build Back Better.

Again, you say what you have been told to believe and reject what is true.

PJ Diaz · Oct 5, 2022

ActionianJacksonian said:
Hippies that once protested the Vietnam War are now pushing WW3 and vax mandates.

It certainly is a topsy-turvy world these days.

mooray · Oct 5, 2022

Definitely some role reversal going on. The super badass tough guys are endlessly crying about name calling and are somehow losing to weak hipsters. That conflict means one of two things is true: either you're not what you say you are, or they're not what you say they are.

PJ Diaz · Oct 5, 2022

mooray said:
Definitely some role reversal going on. The super badass tough guys are endlessly crying about name calling and are somehow losing to weak hipsters. That conflict means one of two things is true: either you're not what you say you are, or they're not what you say they are.

Third option: they are no longer what they once said that they were

canndo · Oct 5, 2022

Fogdog said:
Again, you say what you have been told to believe and reject what is true.

In other words, "you are wrong because you are not being indoctrinated by the same people as I am "

ActionianJacksonian · Oct 5, 2022

Fogdog said:
Again, you say what you have been told to believe and reject what is true.

Ok dollar general Confucius, whatever. Stick to generalities, it's for the weak minded and it suits you. When it's time for specifity though, run and hide behind the group.

Say again what group you're attempting to throw me in, was it Libertarian? What will that accomplish or what has it? Nothing.

The only harmful information false information. The rest is true or for entertainment purposes. It's a much simpler world to live in than yours, that of ever fractal intersectional groups and group think. God Particle much? At some point your road will just end at Individuals who choose to freely associate.

Everyone already knows that though. What People are discovering finally is what it's really about is the damage you can do on your pretend journey.

Fogdog · Oct 5, 2022

ActionianJacksonian said:
Ok dollar general Confucius, whatever. Stick to generalities, it's for the weak minded and it suits you. When it's time for specifity though, run and hide behind the group.

Say again what group you're attempting to throw me in, was it Libertarian? What will that accomplish or what has it? Nothing.

The only harmful information false information. The rest is true or for entertainment purposes. It's a much simpler world to live in than yours, that of ever fractal intersectional groups and group think. God Particle much? At some point your road will just end at Individuals who choose to freely associate.

Everyone already knows that though. What People are discovering finally is what it's really about is the damage you can do on your pretend journey.

You are libertarian, it's obvious.

So, OK, if you want to re-hash old and disproven lies made about vaccinations, let's do it.

If you want to promote a death cult, go ahead.

Fogdog · Oct 5, 2022

canndo said:
In other words, "you are wrong because you are not being indoctrinated by the same people as I am "

I was talking about libertarian ideology. The founders of libertarian ideology rejected of math and science over what they believed. This is a perfect example of indoctrination. Using math, and science to form conclusions is the opposite of indoctrination. Science is a discipline where what is believed to be true is constantly tested and knowledge is refined from what we learn. We can toss in history as well. Unregulated markets lead to monopoly, not free market utopia.

ActionianJacksonian · Oct 5, 2022

Fogdog said:
You are libertarian, it's obvious.

So, OK, if you want to re-hash old and disproven lies made about vaccinations, let's do it.

If you want to promote a death cult, go ahead.

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Does setting up a goal on a field all by yourself, then kicking a ball through it and proclaiming victory over anyone that's not there; work out for you much? Give you like a sense of accomplishment?

Rhetorical questions, but you do you, slugger.

PJ Diaz · Oct 5, 2022

I wonder why more people who have gotten boosters are getting sick, and hospitalized vs those who haven't been boosted. Weird, eh?

date	area	vaccinated_cases	boosted_cases	vaccinated_hosp	boosted_hosp	population_vaccinated	population_boosted
7/17/2022	California	1311	3212	25	38	11273387	16013870
7/16/2022	California	1498	3645	29	56	11274903	16011638
7/15/2022	California	2243	5099	31	57	11277620	16007721
7/14/2022	California	2260	5377	39	73	11283982	15998929
7/13/2022	California	2468	5958	44	80	11289554	15990885
7/12/2022	California	2536	5885	53	86	11295188	15982849
7/11/2022	California	2813	6687	51	79	11300670	15974832
7/10/2022	California	1310	3259	39	74	11306516	15966647
7/9/2022	California	1572	3909	54	113	11308373	15963895
7/8/2022	California	2384	5658	53	96	11311567	15959229
7/7/2022	California	2588	6169	48	120	11318475	15949502
7/6/2022	California	2710	6744	58	109	11324792	15940669
7/5/2022	California	3270	7943	66	135	11330824	15932060
7/4/2022	California	1106	3382	55	93	11336895	15923487
7/3/2022	California	1120	3157	54	103	11343600	15914723
7/2/2022	California	1335	3517	60	94	11345291	15912257
7/1/2022	California	2138	5453	62	136	11348704	15907292
Total for date range	California	34662	85054	821	1542

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