Springtails

[PadawanWarrior]

Coco woth vitalink A nd B

I don't know anything about that stuff, but I'd check pH first.

 

[Lochness1980]

Phing at 6.0

 

[Lochness1980]

Any solutions at all anyone?

 

[UpstateRecGrower]

What the actual fk is going on now... plants r going all yellow and pale gave a dose of N but no change... EC runoff is a massive 2.05 on both.... tried soft nute flush but still no change... any ideas anyone??

Soft nute flush how long ago? If I thought I was having lockout I would flush with PH 5.8 until my runoff was between .5-1 EC and wait until the next day to feed again at a lower strength that before. Do you typically water to runoff? What EC do you normally feed?

 

[Lochness1980]

Soft nute flush how long ago? If I thought I was having lockout I would flush with PH 5.8 until my runoff was between .5-1 EC and wait until the next day to feed again at a lower strength that before. Do you typically water to runoff? What EC do you normally feed?

I've been feeding around .8 but noticed the EC rising so I soft nute flushed them 4 2 days and still nothing... bottom leaves are turning g brownish

 

[UpstateRecGrower]

I've been feeding around .8 but noticed the EC rising so I soft nute flushed them 4 2 days and still nothing... bottom leaves are turning g brownish

ok, .8 is weak, less than I've ever been able to feed. Newer coco can have a high runoff EC on its own it could just be that you're underfeeding at .8 and by feeding even weaker for the last 2 days it may even be a little worse now. I would water through 1.5 EC nutes, use the volume of the pot as how much to water through, so if they're 2 gallon pots water in 2 gallons, that should flush out all your weak nutes or anything else, pretty sure those plants are just hungry.

 

[UpstateRecGrower]

I just skimmed through the thread, did this happen shortly after the h2o2? Perhaps the peroxide damaged the roots? Are you normally able to feed at .8ec without issues?

 

[Lochness1980]

I just skimmed through the thread, did this happen shortly after the h2o2? Perhaps the peroxide damaged the roots? Are you normally able to feed at .8ec without issues?

I didn't use a load of h2o2 less than halt the recommended 1/3 but seemed OK for a while after this has literally just happened in the last 4 days... I initially thought it was rust spots but seems like under feeding might be right ... they r in 20ltr fabric pots and I'm giving them 2lt nute flush each but normally 1ltr each gets about 300ml runoff

 

[Lochness1980]

So just flushed the fkn life outta them.... ph is down to 1.2 on 1 and other is 1.8 so hopefully if they don't die they will recover nicely... I used my RO water collected from the dehumidifier to give them a zero salt feed so to be sure to flush all the collective salt build up... fingers crossed ppl

 

[Nope_49595933949]

So just flushed the fkn life outta them.... ph is down to 1.2 on 1 and other is 1.8 so hopefully if they don't die they will recover nicely... I used my RO water collected from the dehumidifier to give them a zero salt feed so to be sure to flush all the collective salt build up... fingers crossed ppl

The ph is 1.8?

 

[Star Dog]

What the actual fk is going on now... plants r going all yellow and pale gave a dose of N but no change... EC runoff is a massive 2.05 on both.... tried soft nute flush but still no change... any ideas anyone??

What strength are you feeding it and how often?

 

[Lochness1980]

Was

What strength are you feeding it and how often?

Was .8 but started to show signs of bute burn so started flushing... 1 plant was 2.4 and 2.6 both down now so will start a soft nute feed to see if thay improve

 

[Star Dog]

Was

Was .8 but started to show signs of bute burn so started flushing... 1 plant was 2.4 and 2.6 both down now so will start a soft nute feed to see if thay improve

Ime to be that far out it must be very hot and dry or not been feeding sufficiently to run off?

 

[Lochness1980]

Tomorrow's feed will be 1.2 and 2ltr going into 30ltr pots filled to 25ltr with coco

 

[5dekades]

Microblift is very affective with Spingtails. they can really populate fast. As far as I know, they have no beneficial value. They just eat at your small capillary roots and overtake your plants really fast... I mentioned this in another thread earlier. 1 drop per 2 gallons will kill them out.

i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

Interesting… I don’t think the stuff goes bad to my knowledge.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

It's not supposed to. Springtails are usually beneficial in soil as long as there's not a shitload of em. I'm guessing you're in soil, but you should start a thread. I got confused for a sec since you're not the OP.

Interesting… I don’t think the stuff goes bad to my knowledge.

Pretty sure the microbes will die over time. I think there's a date on it isn't there? I don't remember.

 

[UpstateRecGrower]

It's not supposed to. Springtails are usually beneficial in soil as long as there's not a shitload of em. I'm guessing you're in soil, but you should start a thread. I got confused for a sec since you're not the OP.


Pretty sure the microbes will die over time. I think there's a date on it isn't there? I don't remember.

I’ve had them Superbad in coco, I think I yielded more in springtail than flower lol. Pretty sure the BTi bacteria in microbe lift doesn’t affect springtails, I looked into what kills them when I had the issue and nothing about BTi came up. I think there is a product but don’t recall what it was, it was on one of those do your own pest control websites and I think it was expensive, could only be bought in larger quantities..

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I’ve had them Superbad in coco, I think I yielded more in springtail than flower lol. Pretty sure the BTi bacteria in microbe lift doesn’t affect springtails, I looked into what kills them when I had the issue and nothing about BTi came up. I think there is a product but don’t recall what it was, it was on one of those do your own pest control websites and I think it was expensive, could only be bought in larger quantities..

Ya, it seems most people that have problems with them are in coco. I haven't grown in coco but maybe citric acid or H2O2 could work? I don't know.

 

[UpstateRecGrower]

Ya, it seems most people that have problems with them are in coco. I haven't grown in coco but maybe citric acid or H2O2 could work? I don't know.

Id say h2o2 would almost have to work, at least suppress them a bit.. I’m back in rockwool now so idc.. idk it’s weird like somehow they must come already inside of the bagged coco?