Pandemic 2020

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Trump officials interfered with CDC guidance for political purposes, House panel finds
The Trump administration regularly interfered with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) process for developing and issuing guidance about the coronavirus, changed scientific reports and undermined top public health officials, a congressional panel said Monday.
The House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis said interviews, emails and other documents obtained by the panel showed how political appointees in the Trump administration took control of CDC’s public communications and overruled scientists in an effort to bend the agency to Trump’s rosy outlook on the pandemic.

Former CDC Director Robert Redfield and other top agency staff described to the committee how the White House required CDC guidance to be reviewed by officials at the Office of Management and Budget, who ultimately had veto power over the content even though many had no background in infectious diseases.

The CDC’s former top deputy, Anne Schuchat, and others told the House panel that more Americans would be alive today if the Trump administration had allowed CDC to provide the clear messaging and accurate guidance that public health experts had been consistently calling for.
Political appointees altered or interfered with guidance documents for faith communities, a meatpacking plant, polling locations and voters, restaurants and bars, and coronavirus testing, according to a report from the select committee.
Redfield told committee staff that agency guidance was “compromised” at times, and that the process of getting approval from non-CDC officials gave him “PTSD.”

The House panel has been investigating Trump-era political interference in the coronavirus response for the past two years. The report released Monday is the third installment and offers additional details into how the CDC operated in the early part of the pandemic.
The panel concluded political interference has caused lasting harm to CDC staff morale, as well as a loss of credibility in the nation’s public health institutions.

Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), the panel’s chairman, said the report shows that the previous administration “engaged in an unprecedented campaign of political interference” in an effort to “downplay the seriousness of the coronavirus.”

“This prioritization of politics, contempt for science, and refusal to follow the advice of public health experts harmed the nation’s ability to respond effectively to the coronavirus crisis and put Americans at risk,” Clyburn said in a statement. “As we continue to recover from the coronavirus crisis, we must also continue to work to safeguard scientific integrity and restore the American people’s trust in our public health institutions.”

In one instance, Martin Cetron, director of the CDC’s Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, described how the prior administration blocked a mask requirement for public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020.

“The evidence was scientifically there” to support a mask requirement, Cetron said, but “despite what seemed like a fairly broad consensus, ultimately that decision was made and we were told that there would be no such use of federal authority for masking in a transportation corridor.”
Cetron said having such a requirement “could have made a significant contribution” to reducing the spread of the virus, especially during the winter surge of 2020.

Cetron also criticized a federal immigration order, known as Title 42, that allowed mass expulsions as the U.S.-Mexico border. Cetron said the order “was not drafted by me or my team,” but was instead “handed to us.”

The order prevents migrants from entering the country on asylum claims, and was cited as a way to prevent the spread of disease.
Cetron said he recalled participating on calls about the order during which then-senior White House adviser Stephen Miller spoke.
“I was concerned that there may be a motivation that was beyond the specific public health agenda,” Cetron said.

He noted that hard border closures “don’t really work as intended,” and other measures such as quarantines, masking and testing would help mitigate coronavirus infections on the southern border.
Still, Redfield signed the order, and it’s been in place ever since.

The Biden administration has used Title 42 to deport nearly 2 million migrants, sometimes returning individuals back to Mexico on the same day, and other times taking weeks to repatriate men, women and children to dangerous conditions in Haiti.
 

hanimmal

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I am fully inoculated and have little fear of covid.
It is a nice option to not have to worry about getting hospitalized with the virus.


The pandemic is over President Biden said so.
He also said something about Covid not being gone too right?

What is it that you are saying is wrong?

Or am I looking too deep into what I am taking to be some kind of death cult anti-Biden messaging, and you are instead someone that just swallowed the right wing propaganda campaign, made an account (and likely a sock puppet account to post in this section), and decided to post that nugget here?

Anyways, nice to meet you on this account.

Are you an American? And if so are you ok with the fact that Trump's campaign manager gave the data on American citizens that the Republican Party gathered over the years (and strategies on how they wanted to win in 2016) to a Russian spy?

For my part, I am an American and am not ok with Trump's campaign helping the Russian militaries attack on our citizens.
 

cannabineer

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That is odd as I only see it in these posts and hanimal says it themself.
Just a couple examples in this thread there's quite a few more in the war thread.
According to the group I am a sock,troll,A trump supporter and a fascist.
Be Coolio if anyone could show me an example where I am being "paranoid"?
considering that you refused to recognize what you were doing yesterday when you were presented with the evidence,

then deployed this snarky little ad hominem enveloped in a veritable haiku of intellectual dishonesty,

I did that in the first post............maybe the trumptards ain't alone in reading comprehension deficits?
Thanks for all the nonanswers and tardulate,have a good night.
that sounds like the type specimen for thankless labor. There is no good in reasoning with that sort of demeanor, so I’ll pass; thank you.
 

cannabineer

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lol at 'the group' line. That is a step or two away from crying how 'this website' is out to get you in a 'ban me' thread.

Way to not actually answer the honest question I asked though.

Ill ask another.

If you are truly someone who just stumbled onto this website yesterday, and then started posting in the politics section, knowing of the attack on our nation using every social media feed trolls can infest, why would you just expect people to not assume you are just another in the endless line of them that pop up here?
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hanimmal

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You seem to be online way more than me.
I have zero Interest in supporting anyone in that region.
Fuck all of Europe not our business unless the Russians should have done the same in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This proxy war business is a crime against humanity.
I am not anyone's sock or other account.......that you being paranoid.
Just because someone doesn't want war doesn't mean they're A troll............tards.
Welcome to the site then, are you able to answer actual questions or deal in reality on what others have said here?
 

cannabineer

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I am fully able to openly communicate.
perhaps a demonstration of that capacity is in order, in sharp and pleasant contrast to what you have been serving.
The fact that its maybe not in lockstep with you is good.
Diversity of thought is what drives human progress.
ahhh now, that is de luxe. As euphemisms for intellectual dishonesty go, that one is, in the immortal words of the Anglo-French equestrian instructor: hors classe.
 

hanimmal

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I am fully able to openly communicate.
The fact that its maybe not in lockstep with you is good.
Diversity of thought is what drives human progress.
So is that a no to being able to deal in reality?

"Openly communicating" right wing propaganda is not the same thing. I am all for diversity of thought, but not the reliance on false narratives that it takes to believe the MAGA lies.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Report Reveals Greater Extent Of Trump Admin Interference In CDC Than Previously Known

258,020 views Oct 18, 2022 Rep. James Clyburn, chair of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, talks with Rachel Maddow about a new report containing the results of the committee's investigation into the Trump administration's handling of the Covid epidemic and the surprising extent of its corruption of the CDC's public output. Watch highlights from The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell.
 

Sativied

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Autumn wave stagnating in NL and equivalent of CDC can’t explain it. Only 5% icu occupancy.

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Waste water particles still suggest 30k-70k infections but is declining too. 1/3rd of 60year and older got new booster, younger only 12%. Despite being new omicron booster it’s not very popular because only a handful of very old people die of covid everyday, reportedly.
 

cannabineer

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a new, highly immune-evasive variant

 

PJ Diaz

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a new, highly immune-evasive variant

Was it the one that Boston scientists have created in their lab?..

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