Is Biden really that bad?

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hanimmal

hanimmal

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BigMP said:
Well here we are, three weeks before we all applaud the down sizing of the socialist dummies. See you again 2024! Bye
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You really think that the Republicans are going to get voted out?

I am hopeful but not sure, especially in the house since they gerrymandered themselves a nice little buffer in the state level.

We shall see though, I hope you are right and all the right wing idiots that cheered on stupid shit like Trump's trade war in China that led to massive amounts of public funds getting funneled into the wealthy farmers pockets or the cash grabs they gave in their corporate overlords.
 
cannabineer

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hanimmal said:
You really think that the Republicans are going to get voted out?

I am hopeful but not sure, especially in the house since they gerrymandered themselves a nice little buffer in the state level.

We shall see though, I hope you are right and all the right wing idiots that cheered on stupid shit like Trump's trade war in China that led to massive amounts of public funds getting funneled into the wealthy farmers pockets or the cash grabs they gave in their corporate overlords get their comeuppance.
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PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
I’m not sure I understand. I detect an isolationist vibe. It reminds me vaguely of the viscerally attractive but factually detrimental assertion that the money we waste on space exploration is better diverted toward ending poverty.
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That's quite the projection on your part. There was no isolationist vibe intended, inherent, or implied in my statement.
 
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BigMP

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hanimmal said:
You really think that the Republicans are going to get voted out?

I am hopeful but not sure, especially in the house since they gerrymandered themselves a nice little buffer in the state level.

We shall see though, I hope you are right and all the right wing idiots that cheered on stupid shit like Trump's trade war in China that led to massive amounts of public funds getting funneled into the wealthy farmers pockets or the cash grabs they gave in their corporate overlords.
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Hahahaha, you’re so dope.
 
PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
Okay. But to be marginal again, we must trim our foreign involvement way back. That’s how my reasoning ran.
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I can't control how you reason that we tread back up towards marginalism. If that is your strategy, fine, but I didn't make any such statement. If anything I'd be quite happy to see much more humanitarian aid promoted in our foreign involvement, and less military interventions, however that is a generalization, not topically specific.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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PJ Diaz said:
I can't control how you reason that we tread back up towards marginalism. If that is your strategy, fine, but I didn't make any such statement. If anything I'd be quite happy to see much more humanitarian aid promoted in our foreign involvement, and less military interventions, however that is a generalization, not topically specific.
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I’ll ask what you see as the process and benefit of making America marginal again. I should have led with that.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
I’ll ask what you see as the process and benefit of making America marginal again. I should have led with that.
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Seeing as how we've dropped below marginal, bringing us back up to at least the margin should be an obvious benefit. I'm not sure why you would ask such an obtuse question, especially considering the that you've intimated that you are working to make it "ok again" yourself. I'd call "ok" one step above marginal, so we're not too far apart on that, yet you choose to question me as if we have polar-opposing views. It seems to me that you are just digging for a debate, where perhaps one doesn't naturally occur. As far as the process, you know as well as I do, that it's not some simple answer, but of course it begins with policy changes which favor individuals rather than corporations.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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PJ Diaz said:
Seeing as how we've dropped below marginal, bringing us back up to at least the margin should be an obvious benefit. I'm not sure why you would ask such an obtuse question, especially considering the that you've intimated that you are working to make it "ok again" yourself. I'd call "ok" one step above marginal, so we're not too far apart on that, yet you choose to question me as if we have polar-opposing views. It seems to me that you are just digging for a debate, where perhaps one doesn't naturally occur. As far as the process, you know as well as I do, that it's not some simple answer, but of course it begins with policy changes which favor individuals rather than corporations.
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No, and my first post have that impression, so that was poor practice from me.
I am generally curious how you see US as having dropped below the marginal. (and what to do about it)

I’m perhaps uncharacteristically not seeking debate, but asking you to describe what you mean without mounting challenge.

The individuals as opposed to corporations point is one with which I emphatically agree. Imo it begins with … no. I don’t want to prejudice or contest your response.
 
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PJ Diaz

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No, and my first post have that impression, so that was poor practice from me.
I am generally curious how you see US as having dropped below the marginal.

I’m perhaps uncharacteristically not seeking debate, but asking you to describe what you mean without mounting challenge.

The individuals as opposed to corporations point is one with which I emphatically agree. Imo it begins with … no. I don’t want to prejudice or contest your response.
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Frankly it's not an easy answer, and I'm not sure that I'm prepared to mount a thesis on the topic right now. I have a crew working on my roof at the moment, and pounding hammers isn't a great combination with focused intensive writing. That said, the inequitable power of corporations over people really is at the crux of the matter, as it allows them to corrupt and permeate their financial priorities deep into our politics, thereby bastardizing what we affectionately refer to as a "democracy", while effectively disenfranchising the individual.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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PJ Diaz said:
Frankly it's not an easy answer, and I'm not sure that I'm prepared to mount a thesis on the topic right now. I have a crew working on my roof at the moment, and pounding hammers isn't a great combination with focused intensive writing. That said, the inequitable power of corporations over people really is at the crux of the matter, as it allows them to corrupt and permeate their financial priorities deep into our politics, thereby bastardizing what we affectionately refer to as a "democracy", while effectively disenfranchising the individual.
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I dislike the invasion of space that comes with contractors doing their thing. I enter a drawn-in defense/alert mode that is pretty fatiguing.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
I dislike the invasion of space that comes with contractors doing their thing. I enter a drawn-in defense/alert mode that is pretty fatiguing.
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I do as well, but I dislike a leaky roof even more. These guys seem pretty good, but I do have a couple more days of banging. It will be nice to not worry about leaks in the storms ahead.

EDIT: Just as I finished typing the above they knocked on the door, and wanted me to let them in the back yard.
 
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schuylaar

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hanimmal said:
You really think that the Republicans are going to get voted out?

I am hopeful but not sure, especially in the house since they gerrymandered themselves a nice little buffer in the state level.

We shall see though, I hope you are right and all the right wing idiots that cheered on stupid shit like Trump's trade war in China that led to massive amounts of public funds getting funneled into the wealthy farmers pockets or the cash grabs they gave in their corporate overlords.
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