I don't like Bill Maher and I'm boycotting the watch- same goes with Morning Joe.
January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.
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hanimmal
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I still watch Morning Joe, but I am with you on Maher.
The round table with Mika calling out names so that you know it's your turn is too elementary school for me..I watch clips. I love Deadline Whitehouse with Nichole Wallace..she asks great questions with true critical thinking responses along with great guests..she doesn't interrupt, letting her guests answer. I noticed some with shows hosts have been downgraded.
I don't need extra anxiety.
injinji
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It's ironic that in Clavell's King Rat, 'King' was king only as long as everyone was in prison. As soon as they were freed, he was just another GI.
compassionateExotic
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When I saw the three of them together? I didn't watch just caught clip..I was proud of them..her.
DIY-HP-LED
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Frank Figliuzzi: FBI Is Developing A ‘Crisis Of Credibility’
53,049 views Oct 17, 2022 Former FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Frank Figliuzzi, former Justice Department prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, and former FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok discuss reporting that some FBI agents sympathized with Jan. 6 rioters.
printer
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Most in new poll say Trump should testify before Jan. 6 panel
Most Americans think former President Trump should testify before the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, new polling shows.
A Monmouth University poll released Wednesday found that six in 10 Americans think Trump should comply with the committee’s recent subpoena calling him to appear before the panel.
At its ninth public hearing last week, the Jan. 6 committee voted unanimously to subpoena Trump as it prepares to issue its final report before the end of the year.
Eighty-nine percent of Democrats and 61 percent of independents polled think Trump should have to testify, while 67 percent of Republicans think he should not have to comply with the subpoena.
Overall, the poll found a third (34 percent) of Americans think Trump should not have to go before the committee, but if he does, 77 percent overall think he should appear at a public hearing. The Jan. 6 committee’s most recent hearing has been widely expected to be its last public gathering, though it may have additional hearings behind closed doors.
Nearly two-thirds of Republicans (65 percent) back a public hearing if the former president does appear before the panel, as do 82 percent of Democrats and 81 percent of independents.
Forty percent of Americans think Trump should be criminally charged in connection with his involvement in Jan. 6, and 36 percent think he is directly responsible for the riot, according to the poll.
The survey was conducted Oct. 13-17 by the Monmouth University Polling Institute and surveyed 808 U.S. adults, with a margin of error of 5.2 percentage points.
thehill.com
Most Americans think former President Trump should testify before the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, new polling shows.
A Monmouth University poll released Wednesday found that six in 10 Americans think Trump should comply with the committee’s recent subpoena calling him to appear before the panel.
At its ninth public hearing last week, the Jan. 6 committee voted unanimously to subpoena Trump as it prepares to issue its final report before the end of the year.
Eighty-nine percent of Democrats and 61 percent of independents polled think Trump should have to testify, while 67 percent of Republicans think he should not have to comply with the subpoena.
Overall, the poll found a third (34 percent) of Americans think Trump should not have to go before the committee, but if he does, 77 percent overall think he should appear at a public hearing. The Jan. 6 committee’s most recent hearing has been widely expected to be its last public gathering, though it may have additional hearings behind closed doors.
Nearly two-thirds of Republicans (65 percent) back a public hearing if the former president does appear before the panel, as do 82 percent of Democrats and 81 percent of independents.
Forty percent of Americans think Trump should be criminally charged in connection with his involvement in Jan. 6, and 36 percent think he is directly responsible for the riot, according to the poll.
The survey was conducted Oct. 13-17 by the Monmouth University Polling Institute and surveyed 808 U.S. adults, with a margin of error of 5.2 percentage points.
Most in new poll say Trump should testify before Jan. 6 panel
Most Americans think former President Trump should testify before the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, new polling shows. A Monmouth University poll…
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
wow. Those are poor numbers.
Bagginski
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You’re better than me. I can’t take Joe’s endless rambling & constant interruption.
Fortunately for me, the Morning Joe clips on YT are usually Joe-less, so I watch those sometimes
Bagginski
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1: Yes, absolutely and in spades.
2: My favorite rendering of ‘socialism’ is, economics as if the society and the people in it matter
3: See your comment #1. Also, the lie about “‘fiscally-responsible’ conservatives” has been such a constant in the brainwashing stream that it’s baked-in, we’ve got 2-4 generations that have had the brainwashing fed to them constantly *AND* have never known anything else. For them, the entire demonization catalogue isn’t a story, it’s a pulpit-verified TRUTH. Never questioned…never examined. Passed on from loving parent to adoring child (best case, okay?) for generations. GOP will only “fix” the things that prevent them from taking power and keeping it.
4: “Hire more workers?” Of course not. Their path demands putting more people out of work while overworking the remainder…lather, rinse, repeat. It’s KEY to their ‘government is broken’ bullshit, and the fact that they can keep getting away with it is testament to the programmed gullibility of the ‘vote-mob’ they spent so many years cultivating
5: They stopped pretending anything desirable would trickle down to Jane & Joe a generation ago. In recent ads, they’ve been asserting slyly that people making $400,000+ yearly are “middle-class”, and “libertarian free-market economics” exists to justify exactly such assumptions
6: Debt-ceiling ninjutsu is pure gangsterism: “nice economy ya got here; it would be a *shame* if….” Defaulting on the debts arising from acts of Congress (*how* many millions of dollars have been WASTED ‘investigating’ HRC?) would damage the US financially, could cost us exchange-currency status, and curb foreign interest in US investment either way.
NO ONE WHO CARES ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AT ALL WOULD PLAY THESE GAMES
7: I doubt it matters *how*, but the usual “tax ‘n’ spend” shibboleth is my guess. It doesn’t matter, I’m sure they have plenty of NewSpeak trainees ready to carve the narrative out of the stream of events.
Still puzzles me how NO ONE cares that Skeletor is now a senator…weren’t we supposed to be smarter than this? (“Sapiens”, my ass)
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Bagginski
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Kinda the point, I thought
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Homo Sapenis
(edit) do not image search unless you seek rather direct deprictions of gayness
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printer
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Judge orders more Eastman emails released, citing fraud pushed by Trump
A California-based federal judge ordered a legal adviser to President Trump to turn over records tied to Jan. 6 to the House committee investigating the attack, finding the communications were not protected since they likely were exchanged in furtherance of a crime.
Included in the emails is evidence that Trump pushed ahead in court with voter fraud claims he knew were inaccurate — details certain to be of interest to the House select committee.
Judge David Carter ordered John Eastman, who crafted two memos for the Trump campaign detailing methods to resist certifying President Biden’s victory, to turn over some 33 documents to the House panel.
That includes eight documents the judge said related to crimes of obstructing an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Carter previously found in March that it was more likely than not that Trump committed crimes as part of his plot to stay in power.
Wednesday’s ruling highlights an email among Trump’s lawyers specifically related to conspiracy to defraud.
One email from Eastman notes Trump was told that a December suit filed in Georgia claiming that unregistered voters and dead people voted in the election there may not have accurate numbers — relaying that concern before the campaign escalated the matter to a federal court.
“Although the President signed a verification for [the state court filing] back on Dec. 1, he has since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate. For him to sign a new verification with that knowledge (and incorporation by reference) would not be accurate,” Eastman said.
“President Trump and his attorneys ultimately filed the complaint with the same inaccurate numbers without rectifying, clarifying, or otherwise changing them,” Carter wrote. “President Trump, moreover, signed a verification swearing under oath that the incorporated, inaccurate numbers ‘are true and correct’ or ‘believed to be true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief.’”
“The emails show that President Trump knew that the specific numbers of voter fraud were wrong but continued to tout those numbers, both in court and to the public. The Court finds that these emails are sufficiently related to and in furtherance of a conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
The ruling likewise notes that four emails from Eastman and other attorneys “suggest that — irrespective of the merits — the primary goal of filing is to delay or otherwise disrupt the January 6 vote.”
One such email claimed that having litigation before the Supreme Court could aid the campaign’s efforts in Georgia.
“This email, read in context with other documents in this review, make clear that President Trump filed certain lawsuits not to obtain legal relief, but to disrupt or delay the January 6 congressional proceedings through the courts,” Carter wrote.
The ruling from the court — and the emails about Trump’s knowledge ahead of court activity — comes shortly after the House committee held its likely final hearing, dedicating much of its time to share new evidence that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election.
The presentation included new testimony from former aides to Trump, including Alyssa Farah Griffin, the former White House director of strategic communications, who said she entered the Oval Office after the election to hear Trump say, “Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?”
The committee also offered new details about the extent Trump planned to claim he had won the 2020 contest on election night regardless of the results, including testimony from former campaign manager Brad Parscale that he planned to do so as far back as July.
thehill.com
A California-based federal judge ordered a legal adviser to President Trump to turn over records tied to Jan. 6 to the House committee investigating the attack, finding the communications were not protected since they likely were exchanged in furtherance of a crime.
Included in the emails is evidence that Trump pushed ahead in court with voter fraud claims he knew were inaccurate — details certain to be of interest to the House select committee.
Judge David Carter ordered John Eastman, who crafted two memos for the Trump campaign detailing methods to resist certifying President Biden’s victory, to turn over some 33 documents to the House panel.
That includes eight documents the judge said related to crimes of obstructing an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Carter previously found in March that it was more likely than not that Trump committed crimes as part of his plot to stay in power.
Wednesday’s ruling highlights an email among Trump’s lawyers specifically related to conspiracy to defraud.
One email from Eastman notes Trump was told that a December suit filed in Georgia claiming that unregistered voters and dead people voted in the election there may not have accurate numbers — relaying that concern before the campaign escalated the matter to a federal court.
“Although the President signed a verification for [the state court filing] back on Dec. 1, he has since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate. For him to sign a new verification with that knowledge (and incorporation by reference) would not be accurate,” Eastman said.
“President Trump and his attorneys ultimately filed the complaint with the same inaccurate numbers without rectifying, clarifying, or otherwise changing them,” Carter wrote. “President Trump, moreover, signed a verification swearing under oath that the incorporated, inaccurate numbers ‘are true and correct’ or ‘believed to be true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief.’”
“The emails show that President Trump knew that the specific numbers of voter fraud were wrong but continued to tout those numbers, both in court and to the public. The Court finds that these emails are sufficiently related to and in furtherance of a conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
The ruling likewise notes that four emails from Eastman and other attorneys “suggest that — irrespective of the merits — the primary goal of filing is to delay or otherwise disrupt the January 6 vote.”
One such email claimed that having litigation before the Supreme Court could aid the campaign’s efforts in Georgia.
“This email, read in context with other documents in this review, make clear that President Trump filed certain lawsuits not to obtain legal relief, but to disrupt or delay the January 6 congressional proceedings through the courts,” Carter wrote.
The ruling from the court — and the emails about Trump’s knowledge ahead of court activity — comes shortly after the House committee held its likely final hearing, dedicating much of its time to share new evidence that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election.
The presentation included new testimony from former aides to Trump, including Alyssa Farah Griffin, the former White House director of strategic communications, who said she entered the Oval Office after the election to hear Trump say, “Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?”
The committee also offered new details about the extent Trump planned to claim he had won the 2020 contest on election night regardless of the results, including testimony from former campaign manager Brad Parscale that he planned to do so as far back as July.
Judge orders more Eastman emails released, citing fraud pushed by Trump
A California-based federal judge ordered a legal adviser to President Trump to turn over records tied to Jan. 6 to the House committee investigating the attack, finding the communications were not …
thehill.com
DIY-HP-LED
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Weissmann: ‘The Prosecutors Definitely Have Donald Trump As A Target’
146,673 views Oct 20, 2022 Chris Hayes is joined by Andrew Weissmann to discuss Judge Carter’s opinion on Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election, as well as what it could mean for Trump now that Kash Patel was brought before a grand jury in the Mar-a-Lago document probe.
Offmymeds
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So it isn't just me.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't know how Mika doesn't smack the smug off of his face when he just cuts her off mid sentence sometimes....