2022 elections. The steady march for sanity continues.

Bagginski

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For no reason or for any reason, it's all political theater, because judges hear cases if there any to be made and jury's convict. Impeaching Garland is like impeaching Biden, a political act, not a legal one, the same for congressional investigations when abused. I haven't seen the democrats abuse the system, but I've seen the republicans abuse it plenty and to the point of crippling the fixes put in place after Nixon to protect democracy. Garland would be a difficult person for them to deal with, he has the possibility of a November loss in mind and proceeds with caution anyway. All they need is a majority of the committee for a subpoena and a majority of the house to hold him in contempt. Obama's AG Holder defied one such a subpoena I believe.
So, you were assuming AFTER the midterms, and AFTER a Red wave win? Maybe AFTER 1/20/23?

If *that’s* the case, I can see why it wasn’t making sense, but if so, I think I disagree with you to this extent: it’s political theater ON ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE. If the other side of the aisle is not entirely of one mind, they largely take it as the existential threat that it is.

Maybe if I were better-versed in parliamentary politics, I’d understand better
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
So, you were assuming AFTER the midterms, and AFTER a Red wave win? Maybe AFTER 1/20/23?

If *that’s* the case, I can see why it wasn’t making sense, but if so, I think I disagree with you to this extent: it’s political theater ON ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE. If the other side of the aisle is not entirely of one mind, they largely take it as the existential threat that it is.

Maybe if I were better-versed in parliamentary politics, I’d understand better
It looks like a narrow win in the house for the republicans at this point, the narrower their majority, the more likely they will be more moderate, as those in close districts balk at extremism. It is political theater, though the republicans are the ones playing it, abusing power and their offices to do so, breaking the rules of civil society and normal politics. If the people, they elect have no character or integrity, what do you think the result will be? If it is power for the sake of power even at the expense of the country and well-being of the people be damned, while the immovable base has other priorities, like culture wars, hate and fear.

It's simple, if the republicans win a majority, they decide the composition of the investigating committees and if laws and budgets get passed. However, they will probably need to deal with a democratic senate and administration, statewide elections can't be gerrymandered.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Let's hope he's right, he has been before and keeps his ear pretty close to the ground, if there is to be a surprise it will probably be over abortion.

On Maher’s Sept. 23 broadcast, Moore declared:

"I was on your show six years ago when I said that Trump was gonna win, and the audience booed me .... I think I had a pretty good sense of what was gonna happen. I think the opposite is gonna happen this time."
"I think that there is going to be such a landslide against the traitors, especially the 147 Republicans who just, hours after the insurrection, voted to not certify the elected president of the United States, Joe Biden. I think there are going to be so many people coming out to vote. I wanna thank the Supreme Court for reminding women they are in fact second-class citizens, and taking their rights away like this . . . I think there's gonna be such a massive turnout of women."
"There are so many signs of this. I honestly think if we all do our work . . . we have a chance to do something."

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It looks like a narrow win in the house for the republicans at this point, the narrower their majority, the more likely they will be more moderate, as those in close districts balk at extremism. It is political theater, though the republicans are the ones playing it, abusing power and their offices to do so, breaking the rules of civil society and normal politics. If the people, they elect have no character or integrity, what do you think the result will be? If it is power for the sake of power even at the expense of the country and well-being of the people be damned, while the immovable base has other priorities, like culture wars, hate and fear.

It's simple, if the republicans win a majority, they decide the composition of the investigating committees and if laws and budgets get passed. However, they will probably need to deal with a democratic senate and administration, statewide elections can't be gerrymandered.
The bolded has not proven to be the case.
 

hanimmal

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Okay, but WHY would Garland be constantly subpoenaed?
My bullshit guess is that they know by asking Garland questions about open investigations they can get him to not answer (Because he can't talk about ongoing investigations) and troll him by then asking whatever propagandist PhD witness they call to spin some narrative to use up the rest of the time giving Fox something to selectively edit and push across the internet.

How do you think this works?
I have no idea how the congressional hearings scheduling works.

I just figure since they lost the ability to troll Fauci, they need to find someone they to focus on when they aint got shit on Biden or the Democrats and need to distract their cult from whatever bullshit they messed up. And everyone in Biden's administration is good enough that they know their stupid insurrectionist narratives will get destroyed in real time. So who better than someone who can't answer questions?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you must be ninety.

Back in the mid-sixties, up to about 1970 you could get around 15 gallons for your $5, my little Toyota pisspot holds 10 gallons with a full tank, though back then many tanks for larger cars were around 20 gallons if memory serves me right. Mind you $5 was a lot more cash then, but in Canada I could put $2 in my 64 chevy back in 71 and drive around town all evening as a 16-year-old.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Back in the mid-sixties, up to about 1970 you could get around 15 gallons for your $5, my little Toyota pisspot holds 10 gallons with a full tank, though back then many tanks for larger cars were around 20 gallons if memory serves me right. Mind you $5 was a lot more cash then, but in Canada I could put $2 in my 64 chevy back in 71 and drive around town all evening as a 16-year-old.
Lowest I ever saw as a kid somewhere in Delmarva was $.29 nine.

I think that was the year Apollo 1 happened. In another timeline, Gus Grissom might have been the Guy.
 

Bagginski

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Let's hope he's right, he has been before and keeps his ear pretty close to the ground, if there is to be a surprise it will probably be over abortion.

On Maher’s Sept. 23 broadcast, Moore declared:




That’s been my take for some time, and it’s only gotten stronger: since Capt. Ragemonkey took office, the GOP has lost 20-30% of its base, mostly old-guard recoiling from the ‘new face of conservatism’, +attrition from death, incapacity, imprisonment. Since 01/06, that may have shifted, more like 30-40% loss. Add to that, those that simply sit it out. After Nixon’s resignation, GOP turnout was depressed: roughly 5% stayed home - and Dems took it all (until Reagan in ‘80). I think we could see drop in the GOP vote of 10% or more.

There are plenty of new shenanigans-enabling laws in the last two years, all to make it easier for statehouses & governors to DECIDE elections, but this shit is going to come to a head, including these laws meddling in elections.

YES, the MAGA crowd is as loud/unhinged/gullible as ever, they STILL get far more serious attention than they deserve even as their numbers dwindle, so we’re getting down to the squeakiest, most unhinged and unAmerican wheels, so the din *seems* the same, but…the wheels are coming off - more and more with every fresh outrage, every turn of the investigative screws - and they can’t be replaced by more volume.

I will not be surprised if every overthrow ’veteran’ in Congress gets tossed, though I expect some might get through. I *will* be surprised (and disappointed) if the Despicable Dozen isn’t turfed permanently.

I will not be surprised if GOP cannot field a single viable candidate for national office in ‘24.

And yeah - what Michael said
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Lowest I ever saw as a kid somewhere in Delmarva was $.29 nine.

I think that was the year Apollo 1 happened. In another timeline, Gus Grissom might have been the Guy.
I wonder what global car ownership rates were then. Also, around that time of the Arab oil crises women started working outside the home in large numbers and driving their own cars in America and Canada. Before then it was a one car family and dad took it to work! Car ownership rates increased in Europe and Asia around then too, so perhaps the sheer number of cars and the explosion in jet travel, or even central heating in places like Europe could have affected overall demand. It wasn't just greedy OPEC countries; it was also cutting off Iran and Venezuela from global markets and now Russia too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
That’s been my take for some time, and it’s only gotten stronger: since Capt. Ragemonkey took office, the GOP has lost 20-30% of its base, mostly old-guard recoiling from the ‘new face of conservatism’, +attrition from death, incapacity, imprisonment. Since 01/06, that may have shifted, more like 30-40% loss. Add to that, those that simply sit it out. After Nixon’s resignation, GOP turnout was depressed: roughly 5% stayed home - and Dems took it all (until Reagan in ‘80). I think we could see drop in the GOP vote of 10% or more.

There are plenty of new shenanigans-enabling laws in the last two years, all to make it easier for statehouses & governors to DECIDE elections, but this shit is going to come to a head, including these laws meddling in elections.

YES, the MAGA crowd is as loud/unhinged/gullible as ever, they STILL get far more serious attention than they deserve even as their numbers dwindle, so we’re getting down to the squeakiest, most unhinged and unAmerican wheels, so the din *seems* the same, but…the wheels are coming off - more and more with every fresh outrage, every turn of the investigative screws - and they can’t be replaced by more volume.

I will not be surprised if every overthrow ’veteran’ in Congress gets tossed, though I expect some might get through. I *will* be surprised (and disappointed) if the Despicable Dozen isn’t turfed permanently.

I will not be surprised if GOP cannot field a single viable candidate for national office in ‘24.

And yeah - what Michael said

Record Breaking Early Voter Turnout Could Be Wake Up Call For Republicans

288,803 views Oct 18, 2022 Georgia is experiencing record breaking voter turnout on the first days of early voting. NBC News’ Sahil Kapur explains what this could mean for Republicans.
 

Bagginski

Well-Known Member
Lowest I ever saw as a kid somewhere in Delmarva was $.29 nine.

I think that was the year Apollo 1 happened. In another timeline, Gus Grissom might have been the Guy.
Apollo 11 landed on the moon in ‘69, Nixon still in his first term - I was still in high school. Gus & the Apollo fire was in ‘68…that was a shock. Never did manage to become an astronaut.
 

Bagginski

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Record Breaking Early Voter Turnout Could Be Wake Up Call For Republicans

288,803 views Oct 18, 2022 Georgia is experiencing record breaking voter turnout on the first days of early voting. NBC News’ Sahil Kapur explains what this could mean for Republicans.
Early voting in GA is DOUBLE what it was in ‘18 (previous record)…and no matter what, Walker will get no more votes than Perdue did in ‘20. I expect to see similar play-outs across the nation.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Early voting in GA is DOUBLE what it was in ‘18 (previous record)…and no matter what, Walker will get no more votes than Perdue did in ‘20. I expect to see similar play-outs across the nation.
Hard to say at this point, but it is another sign that this won't be a traditional midterm and past experience might not apply. According to common fucking sense the republicans should be politically extinct by now, especially in the wake of Trump, J6 and their stance on abortion and on any of several issues, according to polls. Yet here we are, neck and neck again in a death struggle between constitutional liberal democracy and naked fascism, Hitler's thuggery versus Madisonian democracy.
 
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