DarkWeb
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How much was beiber
Wake n Bake, Nothing Better!
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raratt
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You need an excuse?
Laughing Grass
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Surely you're not comparing Mariah Carey and Justin Bieber.How much was beiber
RetiredToker76
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I didn't like math until I started to understand music beyond notes on a page, then I learned math, then I liked math. So around jr. high I became a math nerd. My daughter is a math nerd, we play math games, and I send her strange math problems in the middle of the day to figure out. She sends me coded messages to figure out. I'll calculate something wrong on purpose just to make her correct me. By making it a game, it's always been fun for her. Also the advantage of testing out of basically all her jr high math by the 7th grade. Next year she starts her high school math because they're out of teachers for her.
DarkWeb
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He better not be more
Not a chance!He better not be more
Laughing Grass
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You sound like a great dad!
Laughing Grass
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Seats we had were closer to $200 each.He better not be more
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RetiredToker76
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Thank you, I try. Being a good dad was always a life goal for me, had a line of shitty real and step versions as exaples of what not to do. So I remembered what not to do, and along with math, physics and music in college I also took several child development courses just to throw some empirical data into my tool-set. I'm one of the Gen-X, "To hell with the office, give me the kid" dads.
lokie
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Talent or vocal skills? no.
Who draws the biggest gate?
Ticket sales and attendance are the measure of stardom.
DarkWeb
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Oh that's disgusting
shnkrmn
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Okay maybe I keep my conscience shackled and wearing a gimp suit but I still have to placate it sometimes
shnkrmn
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There is artistic significance to consider irrespective of mere moneymaking. Mariah is a damn legend and has been one for 30 years.
Laughing Grass
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DarkWeb
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Good for her......she doesn't need to.
Laughing Grass
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You're one of those kids who listened to band 'cause you thought it would make you look cool. I'm a free spirit, I like what I like and your opinion is irrelevant.Oh that's disgusting
raratt
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And even dogs can hear her music, some of it only them.
DarkWeb
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RetiredToker76
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Our taste preferences are formed mostly in our mid adolescents and becomes refined over the next 15 or so years. A lot of it stems from our first rebellion away from our parent's music. I'm quick to say I like something, very slow to say I don't like something, and most things I dislike is because they got overplayed to the point of irritation on the radio 20 years ago.
Most published performers are talented performers of some vein. Some are made and supported by corporations, some are found in the wild and domesticated by corporate music, some are revolutionary and stay so their entire career. One thing you learn in music school, if you don't sell out, you're not making money. If you're not making money, you're not getting heard, if you're not heard why are you making music?
Being the teenage anarchist punk I was, resolving that dissonance is probably my greatest daily confusion. How does one make money without 'selling out' because the truth is that reaching a broader audience than the small niche you errored into is to include, or exclude things that appeal to a less limited audience.
A performer with a fan base of 20 who only caters to their fan base, will always have a fan base of 20.
Mariah gets paid more than I do. she may not fit my personal daily taste profile, but she gets paid and fills rooms. I don't think she was particularly revolutionary but she was a titan diva in the 90's, had a very consistent product and fan base, she is very skilled and has worn many hats in and out of the spotlight in the music industry.
I love making music for me and to my tastes, the reality is my taste is 20 years old and practically an anachronism. If I ever want to get paid more than festival gigs, I have to find the niche that gives me an entrance to evolve a listeners base and sell out to.
Literally had this discussion over the weekend with my musical partner, minus the parts about Mariah of the performers we talked about she didn't come up.
Most published performers are talented performers of some vein. Some are made and supported by corporations, some are found in the wild and domesticated by corporate music, some are revolutionary and stay so their entire career. One thing you learn in music school, if you don't sell out, you're not making money. If you're not making money, you're not getting heard, if you're not heard why are you making music?
Being the teenage anarchist punk I was, resolving that dissonance is probably my greatest daily confusion. How does one make money without 'selling out' because the truth is that reaching a broader audience than the small niche you errored into is to include, or exclude things that appeal to a less limited audience.
A performer with a fan base of 20 who only caters to their fan base, will always have a fan base of 20.
Mariah gets paid more than I do. she may not fit my personal daily taste profile, but she gets paid and fills rooms. I don't think she was particularly revolutionary but she was a titan diva in the 90's, had a very consistent product and fan base, she is very skilled and has worn many hats in and out of the spotlight in the music industry.
I love making music for me and to my tastes, the reality is my taste is 20 years old and practically an anachronism. If I ever want to get paid more than festival gigs, I have to find the niche that gives me an entrance to evolve a listeners base and sell out to.
Literally had this discussion over the weekend with my musical partner, minus the parts about Mariah of the performers we talked about she didn't come up.