I do agree with what you're saying. But what myself and others are trying to point out is that the structure of the plant is not right.
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I had that on an alleged Chimera #3 from Green Acres, and it went away.
Where would you send it? Any mail order people that do THC level testing?
Anyone have experience with Green Acres??? I bought some expensive cuts, then they disappeared in September. Wondering if anyone who bought thinks they were legitimate genetics. He claimed to have 50 strains, all top shelf, so why would he disappear, when he was selling a lot, undercutting everyone else.
UpstateRecGrower
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Looks like they got booted off strainly
Too bad if his cuts were legit. That is my concern,, whether kicked off for fraudulent cuts. His customer service was bad, returning 1 out of 6 messages. Their website could have been made for next to nothing and might have made just to look legit. Would be nice if strainly let us know why sellers leave. It is kind of backwards displaying the date they are paid up until, instead of how long they were there. Would rather deal with solid dependable sellers.
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UpstateRecGrower
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I think it would be hard to get kicked off for fraudulent cuts, it would take so long to find out and then there's the classic excuse "it must be your grow environment" lol. Most likely just took people money, didn't ship stuff, too many people complained.. It's really hard to say if its legit or not best bet is to just grow it out.. @LGND has a thread about chimera 3#, I have one in veg I could show you pics of not sure how far along you are?
It is not one of the stronger growers of the cuts I got around the same time. Do you know how much it stretches?? Do you know the max PPM it should be fed?? Will probably move to flower in around a week. It is in coco using airpot at 750 PPM feed. Have only grown GG4 for last 8 years and was given instructions to work upto 650 PPM max. It will probably take a few grows for me to figure out since not used to reading plants. Have Chimera #3, MAC1, Fatso, Bruce Banner #3,, Piff City #3, Chedawg #4, GMO Cookies, Gush Mints. Also 2 someone grew from copycat seeds, Oreo Big Stuff and Rainbow MAC.
UpstateRecGrower
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Im not in bloom yet so I can't say much on the stretch but in veg it seems to grow average I guess? I feed everything the same ppm and in veg I think its around 900.
jcdws602
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I finally got my results today.
Strain Sample identifier
Runtz 0436_0001
Super Lemon S 0436_0002
Gelato 41 0436_0003
Gush Mintz 0436_0004
Marshmallow Og 0436_0005
Apricot Gelato 0436_0006
Biscotti 0436_0007
Sundae Driver 0436_0008
Black Velvet 0436_0009
Gushers 0436_0010
Guava Melt 1 0436_0011
Potato Head 1 0436_0012
SFV Og 0436_0013
As you can see all of Aunty Jane sourced cuts tested positive. I have all of Aunty janes cuts in my main grow area. All these other cuts are from others I’ve traded with/purchased or seeds that I have popped and in my quarantine tent in my house. My main grow area is in a tuff shed in my back yard. Just to clarify I haven’t brought anything else into my main grow area since I had Apple fritter almost 2 years ago. After the Apple fritter runs i disinfected everything and have been running Aunty janes cuts only since last year in November. Therefore it is highly probable that they are the source of infection. Well guys that sucked but at least now I know. This run is about to finish so after the chop I will be using my deep disinfectant protocols and start with fresh gear. These others that tested clean will get tested again in about 1-2 months if I don’t just toss as well.
Strain Sample identifier
Runtz 0436_0001
Super Lemon S 0436_0002
Gelato 41 0436_0003
Gush Mintz 0436_0004
Marshmallow Og 0436_0005
Apricot Gelato 0436_0006
Biscotti 0436_0007
Sundae Driver 0436_0008
Black Velvet 0436_0009
Gushers 0436_0010
Guava Melt 1 0436_0011
Potato Head 1 0436_0012
SFV Og 0436_0013
As you can see all of Aunty Jane sourced cuts tested positive. I have all of Aunty janes cuts in my main grow area. All these other cuts are from others I’ve traded with/purchased or seeds that I have popped and in my quarantine tent in my house. My main grow area is in a tuff shed in my back yard. Just to clarify I haven’t brought anything else into my main grow area since I had Apple fritter almost 2 years ago. After the Apple fritter runs i disinfected everything and have been running Aunty janes cuts only since last year in November. Therefore it is highly probable that they are the source of infection. Well guys that sucked but at least now I know. This run is about to finish so after the chop I will be using my deep disinfectant protocols and start with fresh gear. These others that tested clean will get tested again in about 1-2 months if I don’t just toss as well.
waterproof808
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I wonder how often AJN is testing? Doesnt seem like their menu has changed like they are bringing in lots of new cuts or maybe tumi's methods for detection have gotten more sophisticated?
waterproof808
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Tumi has a minimum order of 10 vials, so technically you need to spend $250 to test 10 samples. Are there any other labs doing testing with no minimum order requirement?
jcdws602
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I can only speculate but it seems not often enough. I don’t understand why not just test every couple of months. It’s only $250 bucks minimum for 10 test. Not much money when you take into consideration the amount of money some of these folks are making selling these cuts.
FirstCavApache64
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I can't remember the vendor but @Rurumo has a good list of testing labs and one had a smaller batch size if I remember. Hopefully she will remember the name.
waterproof808
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I think we will see soon that vendors that are doing regular testing will be far more successful and profitable than the ones that arent.
JustBlazin
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Wow that sucks man, sorry to hear that.
Pretty much exactly what happened to me, all my ajn tested positive while all my others tested negative.
My guess is one was infected and I spread it to the others.
Did you notice any of your plants dudding?
Yes you need to buy 10 tests from tumi but if you store them in the fridge they will last a year.
Ajn tested through dark heart who seems shady in the first place since some people have had stuff tested positive from tumi but negative through dark heart and that's before the root testing.
People need to test roots not stems. Hopefully auntie janes nursery will start doing root tests bit I asked If he was going to use tumi and do root tests but he won't respond to me now. I guess he is upset I posted my positive results of his gear.
But looks like it's not just the ones I got so glad I did post it.
Dividedsky
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clearly not enough
jcdws602
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Well to be honest looking back now I believe that I did see some dudding in flower the last few rounds I just didn’t know what it was. It was very mild and very selective so I didn’t really associate it with the viroid. Before I thoroughly researched hlv I noticed a branch here and there that just didn’t have the same trichome production and mild but unusual discoloration. Like I said it was very mild and very selective (most people wouldn’t even of noticed). Well I’m kicking myself in arse now lol. Yeah bro I really appreciate you posting your results and slapping me with some hard truths backed with evidence though. I let myself get comfortable and lost sight of implementing proper procedures. I won’t say I will never outsource for additional genetics but I will say that my protocols will be very strict from now on. TEST TEST TEST IMMEDIATELY !!!!
Oliver Pantsoff
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AJ has been back Hlvd for years. Gotta Cherry Pie and ICC that was infected. He acknowledged it, and told me he got rid of those strains. He's good people, but need to do some clean up etc...
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70DAZE
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My plan is to try to learn meristem tissue culture, go ahead and take in everything I want for the next 6 months or so and just let it be, because I almost certainly have some HLV in my garden somewhere even though I haven't noticed anything weird personally and all of my grows have been excellent, I suspect once I get some tests done it'll show up as it has for others.
I always knew that was a risk though, so unlike some people, I am not mad about it. I knew what I was getting myself into and hopefully, with a new learned skill, I will get myself out of it while being able to retain my favorites, or at the worst, clean house completely, reset with new genetics that I verify several times before mothering and cloning and start being ultra selective about what I do and don't allow in my space.