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cannabineer

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They we are forced to rely on our subjectivity, which in this case, you have given the onus of to religion. Religion has an answer, but you do not.
Religion does not have an answer. It imposes sectarian dogma and gets offended by the reasonable request for an objective basis for the policies that devolve from it.

Personhood is sanctity wearing a ghillie suit of pseudoreason supplied by the snipers of dominionism.
 

PJ Diaz

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Religion does not have an answer. It imposes sectarian dogma and gets offended by the reasonable request for an objective basis for the policies that devolve from it.

Personhood is sanctity wearing a ghillie suit of pseudoreason supplied by the snipers of dominionism.
OK, let's disregard personhood then, as clearly it's an obtuse principle at best. I'm curious at what point in the process of gestation do you no longer support abortion?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
A cell grouping with heart beat.
I thought of that, and no.
The protoheart starts beating very early in development. Barring miscarriage, it is still in the “gonna be someone some day” category,and too close to the peremptory “it begins at conception” uh, concept.

(goes googling)

The gestational clock starts at the first day of the last period. Implantation occurs in week four. A heartbeat can be detected as early as week five. So imo using that as the criterion is driven by exterior doctrinal considerations, typically based in religion.
 
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